Turkey stud n dud

[Pokerbrat2000]

Dud: "The Bo Melton experiment"

While I appreciate that the guy can play CB, WR and returner, he isn't very good at any of them. He was a better WR when he was....a WR. That opening drive drop for a walk in TD made me cringe. Maybe not a perfect ball by Love, but you have to make that catch. On returns, has Bisaccia told his kick returners to run slowly, into traffic?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Stud: Dontayvion Wicks

MVP of the game IMO. Best game yet as a Packer. Some really nice routes and catches. That 4th down dagger catch, a highlight of the season. I like the potential of Mathew Golden, but right now, I want to see Wicks play more.

 

[gopkrs]

Dud: "The Bo Melton experiment"

While I appreciate that the guy can play CB, WR and returner, he isn't very good at any of them. He was a better WR when he was....a WR. That opening drive drop for a walk in TD made me cringe. Maybe not a perfect ball by Love, but you have to make that catch. On returns, has Bisaccia told his kick returners to run slowly, into traffic?

I agree he is not much of a kick off returner or receiver. But I have not seen him return punts or play DB. If he didn't go so deep into the backfield; he might be able to do the jet sweep. He was so deep on the jet sweep that he gave the detroit defense 2 or 3 seconds to move over to the side to tackle him.

 

[RRyder]

The first reports I read on Wyatt's ankle is that he tore ligaments. It's not a 'clean' break. Ig true, that probably means a much longer recovery jeopardizing the 2026 season. Without a first round pick, it's going to be difficult to replace him in the draft. While cap space seems to be more fluid than a fixed sum, with The Parsons deal, may limit the Packers to a 'cheaper' vet on his third contract.

Like I said many times before, most teams suffer injuries. When the Packers get them, they massively impact two seasons.

This is the problem with internet sluthing. Those "first reports" you read were other random people just theory crafting

I know this cause we dont actually have any credible reports yet other then "Its a serious ankle injury"

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I agree he is not much of a kick off returner or receiver. But I have not seen him return punts or play DB. If he didn't go so deep into the backfield; he might be able to do the jet sweep. He was so deep on the jet sweep that he gave the detroit defense 2 or 3 seconds to move over to the side to tackle him.

You haven't seen him play DB, because he hasn't been in on a defensive snap yet. Nor has he returned a punt, I'm fine with him not being asked to do that.

He has 6 targets and has only caught 2 for 28 yds. He averages 24 yds per kickoff return.

I say you give him #80 back and call the Bo Melton Experiment over.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

This is the problem with internet sluthing. Those "first reports" you read were other random people just theory crafting

I know this cause we dont actually have any credible reports yet other then "Its a serious ankle injury"

While I don't think there has been an official report on Wyatt's injury when Matt LaFleur says the following, I think you can assume the worst; "It doesn’t look good, guys. I’m sick for him, I’m sick for us. I mean, that’s a critical loss for our football team, for our defense obviously."

 

[Firethorn1001]

Maybe not a perfect ball by Love, but you have to make that catch.

I'd like to see the play again, but guess I'm remembering it way differently because unless Melton had 10 ft arms to scoop it up off the turf that was just a horrible throw by Love.

 

[RRyder]

While I don't think there has been an official report on Wyatt's injury when Matt LaFleur says the following, I think you can assume the worst; "It doesn’t look good, guys. I’m sick for him, I’m sick for us. I mean, that’s a critical loss for our football team, for our defense obviously."

The poster i responded to didnt "assume the worst"

He quite litterally said he was going off "reports" he has read and that torn ligaments are involved

and im saying that whatever reports hes read are about as valid as any post on this board. Because well they are and that maybe we should wait for any kind of credible report (doesnt have to be an official press release just a credible source) that even has the word ligaments in it before we start assuming it

 

[gopkrs]

You haven't seen him play DB, because he hasn't been in on a defensive snap yet. Nor has he returned a punt, I'm fine with him not being asked to do that.

He has 6 targets and has only caught 2 for 28 yds. He averages 24 yds per kickoff return.

I say you give him #80 back and call the Bo Melton Experiment over.

I realize you are saying he hasn't played because the coaches don't think he's any good. But I'd like to see it myself. For instance, why is he returning kickoffs? It seems like a coaching error. They can do that by not playing him also.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'd like to see the play again, but guess I'm remembering it way differently because unless Melton had 10 ft arms to scoop it up off the turf that was just a horrible throw by Love.

I just watched it, a few times. You are correct, at least on it being a worse throw than I remember. It was at his feet and while he got his hands on it, it was a terrible throw by Love and one Bo shouldn't be blamed (by me) for dropping. Thanks for pointing it out.

 

[Pugger]

The only way a trade of this magnitude gets done is if both President and GM are on the same page about it. The “who initiated what” can only be speculated on, but both were certainly involved to some degree.

My guess would be that Policy made it clear that Gute would have the organizational support to make a “big splash” in the offseason and Parsons in fact was the “splash.”

There was speculation about Parsons weeks leading up to the trade so I’m sure there were plenty of internal conversations about it.

I remember hearing the speculation but never dreamed we would actually do it. Would we have if Murphy was still team president..?

 

[Pugger]

I agree with a caveat. I do like the aggressiveness. But the times have to be right. Can't be like detroit and just go for it all the time. When they went for it at mid field on 4th and 4; that wasn't a good decision. But when we did it at the end of the game; it was. We were going to have to keep them out of the endzone. From the 50 or the 25 didn't matter much. But Wicks was covered like a blanket (on both ). Would certainly like it if he was more open. Imho

Yes, there is a time to be aggressive and a time to be prudent. This concept escapes Campbell. lol

 

[Pugger]

Duds: Lion fans and the Media saying that "The Game was rigged", due to the Packer timeout call on 4th and short.

First of all, do they actually know that MLF wasn't yelling "timeout" as he ran down the sidelines? All FOX showed was him signaling "timeout" after Belton moved.

Second, did they keep watching the game? A more than obvious pass interference wasn't called on a Lion DB against Watson, who probably otherwise catches the ball and picks up the 1st down, instead, Packers have to punt.

Third, did they see the Lions on the series after that punt? 3rd and long, incomplete pass but oh wait....away from the ball, before the pass was thrown, a Lion WR runs down a Packer DB and yup....."illegal contact Green Bay, automatic 1st down Lions."

The media loves to build up the "controversary" for clicks.

Stud: Matt LaFleur. While his plays were still coming in too slow most of the day, he strapped on a big pair of balls on those 4th down calls.

This is one of my biggest beefs with MLF. Why in the hell can't we get the play in to our QB sooner? How many stupid time outs have we squandered over the years?

 

[Pugger]

How about a half stud to our ST unit. Only one penalty on kicks/punts (that I can recall) is a big improvement for this group.

 

[coulomb]

When BJ Raji retired he hinted he may comeback someday..

Anyone have his #?

 

[Half Empty]

LVN

 

[DoURant]

How about a half stud to our ST unit. Only one penalty on kicks/punts (that I can recall) is a big improvement for this group.

And our Kicker doesn't s**k anymore, perfect 2 weeks in a row

 

[adambr2]

When BJ Raji retired he hinted he may comeback someday..

Anyone have his #?

This is in jest I assume, and I know this will probably get tomatoes thrown at me in here, but BJ Raji was one of the most massively overrated Packers that I’ve ever watched.

He was great in 2010 and other than that he was just pretty flat out bad most seasons. Had a few moments here and there like any other player.

I’d rather plug any DL sitting on any practice squad in the league in than find out what BJ Raji looks like at age 39.

 

[rmontro]

Stud: Jerry Jones, for obvious reasons. Although the Cowboys are starting to look like a formidable obstacle.

 

[bm1090]

Exactly. I worked with a guy that broke his ankle 2 years ago. They wanted him walking on it within Days of surgery. Obviously an initial boot. Within 6 weeks I was surprised to see him walking around pretty normal. He was 65yrs old, which a 26yr old is going to heal up pretty quickly with trainers helping daily etc.

As far as some projections in here that he’ll miss next season (not suggesting you said that) that somehow we can quantify Wyatt as a “bad draft selection”. That’s just totally ridiculous at this juncture. It’s like some posters in here seemingly want players to fail so they can justify their position of complaining.

Is anyone saying this? The break should heal completely and I'm sure he'll be fine for next season. And he's been great this year, definitely not a bad selection. We'll miss him, he's our best interior lineman by far.

 

[longtimefan]

Is anyone saying this? The break should heal completely and I'm sure he'll be fine for next season. And he's been great this year, definitely not a bad selection. We'll miss him, he's our best interior lineman by far.

Broken ankle

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[Pokerbrat2000]

This is one of my biggest beefs with MLF. Why in the hell can't we get the play in to our QB sooner? How many stupid time outs have we squandered over the years?

A part of my thinks its because his plate is too full and another part of me thinks it is a subconscious, passive aggressive way of preventing Love from doing what Rodgers did a lot, call a new play. I have been watching this closely a lot this year and I should have charted it, but there have been some times when Love breaks the huddle and there has been 20+ seconds left on the play clock. What I have noticed is that unless its a hurry up offense, he uses most of it, studies the defense, shifts players around and has decent success on the play.

Now I am not saying that Love should be given control of all the calls on the field. What I am saying though is he has proven that he is a veteran QB now. He deserves to have an OC that gets the next call in to him quickly and with plenty of time for him to look over the defense and act accordingly.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Broken ankle

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Short of it being just a bad sprain, this might have been the better news over some injuries.

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[Pokerbrat2000]

How about a half stud to our ST unit. Only one penalty on kicks/punts (that I can recall) is a big improvement for this group.

I know what you are saying, and it is tongue in cheek, but yeah, when your Special Teams unit "stands out" because they only committed 1 penalty, that isn't very Special.

I am 110% ready for Bisaccia to be gone after this season.

 

[adambr2]

I find it a little funny that everyone is lauding MLF for the aggression on 4th down and Campbell is being absolutely crucified for the same exact thing.

I guess the only thing that really matters to most is that it ends up working.