Packers at Vikings Studs n Duds

[Raptorman]

But the coaches do. They see him every day at practice. If MLF didn't let him throw much that speaks volumes IMO.

I think they did the kid a disservice. Letting him throw and learn would have been better. They weren't interested in winning the game, so why does it matter how much you lose by? And that defense was a good one to learn to throw against. 1 passing TD allowed in the last 8 games. And that was Goff in the last Detroit game. None by Love, Darnold or Prescott. Prior to that Goff TD, the last passing TD the Vikings D gave up was Nov 9th against Baltimore.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think they did the kid a disservice. Letting him throw and learn would have been better. They weren't interested in winning the game, so why does it matter how much you lose by? And that defense was a good one to learn to throw against. 1 passing TD allowed in the last 7 games. And that was Goff in the last Detroit game. None by Love, Darnold or Prescott.

Well said, I was going to type out just about the same. Tune practiced all week, with him, the coaches and the team knowing he would be the starter. It was a pretty disappointing game plan to just put Tune out there to hand the ball off.

Obviously, having Tune behind a makeshift backup OL doesn't help and maybe MLF took that into consideration. I also think that the early results of the passing game were so bad that if MLF had any plans of looking at Tune's arm, those plans might have been scrapped and he decided it was best for everyone just to run the clock and keep the ball on the ground.

 

[gopkrs]

Instead of this snarky response tell me why you disagree with my observation?

I just don't have the faith you do in the coaches ability to choose a 2nd string QB. They got fortunate with Willis but before that, we seemed content to keep people on the roster that were never going to help in a pinch. They should keep looking until they hit on one. Same with special teams coaches.

 

[Pugger]

I just don't have the faith you do in the coaches ability to choose a 2nd string QB. They got fortunate with Willis but before that, we seemed content to keep people on the roster that were never going to help in a pinch. They should keep looking until they hit on one. Same with special teams coaches.

I'm with you about not having a lot of faith in these coaches at times. I just assume they know how well he'd play after seeing him at practice every day. They really didn't do Tune any favors. I am more than ready to move on from this staff - Hadley notwithstanding. I just have a feeling unless Policy is ready for a change their won't be any this offseason. If things don't improve in 2026 I hope things do change for 2027!

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I'm with you about not having a lot of faith in these coaches at times. I just assume they know how well he'd play after seeing him at practice every day. They really didn't do Tune any favors.

Honestly, while I understand how you feel, I wouldn't put too much weight in Sundays coaching, nor the play on the field. I honestly think MLF was more focused on staying healthy and the playoffs, than what he could do for Tune. My guess is, Tune isn't in any long term plan for the Packers. Even if he is/was, that wasn't the game to audition him for that future.

The Vikings on the other hand should have been the team rotating a lot of guys in and out. Playing for 2026 and beyond. I was happy to see O'Connell call a timeout and pull Harrison Smith so that Viking fans could give him the standing ovation that he deserved. Same with CJ Ham. I won't miss either Smith or Ham, but I am glad that they got to leave the game (if they do) the way that they did.

 

[gopkrs]

I'm with you about not having a lot of faith in these coaches at times. I just assume they know how well he'd play after seeing him at practice every day. They really didn't do Tune any favors. I am more than ready to move on from this staff - Hadley notwithstanding. I just have a feeling unless Policy is ready for a change their won't be any this offseason. If things don't improve in 2026 I hope things do change for 2027!

That's Hedely I think. If you're referring to Blazing Saddles.

 

[pacmaniac]

I've always heard that bookies don't lose or win depending on where the points end up. At least after you put them all together.

That's what I thought. Wouldn't the spread move to balance out the under and over people? I don't think "karma" cares if the Packers lost 16-0 or 16-3. I saw people online saying all the bettors were angry with the Packers. Well, no, half of them were angry, and half of them were happy.

 

[gopkrs]

That's what I thought. Wouldn't the spread move to balance out the under and over people? I don't think "karma" cares if the Packers lost 16-0 or 16-3. I saw people online saying all the bettors were angry with the Packers. Well, no, half of them were angry, and half of them were happy.

Bookies would just like their 5% guaranteed.

 

[OldSchool101]

Perhaps he knew Tune wasn't going to do much? I'd wager MLF just wanted us to get out of there healthy for this weekend. Most of the guys playing in that game wouldn't be playing against the Bears anyway.

This.
Plus just get points the game was already over. 16-3 or 16-8 who cares.

Heck if it was Chicago that beat on our 2nd string 16-0? that would be the topic of discussion for years how we couldn’t score a single point on them. Their self flagellation in 2024 against a bunch of reserves and acting like they won a superbowl was and continues to go down in the annals of football as levels of pathetic self commendation never before seen by mankind.

 

[DoURant]

Passing for -7 yards. It doesn't sound possible. Kind of like a temperature outside below zero. How is "less than nothing" defined? Anyway, it's just a hard concept to grasp - in football or in the weather.

Well sometimes we grow through the process of elimination. In the Packers' case, they learned Tune is not fit to play QB at any level in the NFL - even PSPS.

It was -7 yards passing due to the yards lost via sacks (41).... So technically, Tune was just above freezing, sitting at 34.

 

[DoURant]

Speaking of Tune, he was released today, and Ridder was added to the 53

 

[mradtke66]

Kind of like a temperature outside below zero. How is "less than nothing" defined?

Which is why the best temperature scale is Kelvin. 0K, sometimes called absolute 0, is the temperature at which atoms stop moving. IIRC, you can't actually reach 0K.

It's also useful because F and C are relative scales, while K is absolute. Consider: Raise the temperature 10%. You can do the math, but the result is wrong in F or C. First, freezing temperature of water. In F, trivial. In C, impossible. What is 0 * 0.10? Still 0. And then conversions. 212F vs. 100C, which are equal. Is 10% of each equal? NOPE. 1.1* 212F = 233.2F. 1.1* 100C = 110C. However, 110C actually is equivalent to 230F. Similarly, 233.2F actually is equivalent to 111.77778C.

In short, Long Live K.

Nerd rant over.

 

[shockerx]

Which is why the best temperature scale is Kelvin. 0K, sometimes called absolute 0, is the temperature at which atoms stop moving. IIRC, you can't actually reach 0K.

It's also useful because F and C are relative scales, while K is absolute. Consider: Raise the temperature 10%. You can do the math, but the result is wrong in F or C. First, freezing temperature of water. In F, trivial. In C, impossible. What is 0 * 0.10? Still 0. And then conversions. 212F vs. 100C, which are equal. Is 10% of each equal? NOPE. 1.1* 212F = 233.2F. 1.1* 100C = 110C. However, 110C actually is equivalent to 230F. Similarly, 233.2F actually is equivalent to 111.77778C.

In short, Long Live K.

Nerd rant over.

Did you stay at a Holiday inn last night?

 

[mradtke66]

Did you stay at a Holiday inn last night?

Sadly, I’m actually like that in real life. Actually got yelled at by my wife over the holidays because I went into this rant on the car ride.

 

[gopkrs]

I like F. Freeze at 32 hot as hell at 90. Sounds right to me.

 

[Heyjoe4]

But the coaches do. They see him every day at practice. If MLF didn't let him throw much that speaks volumes IMO.

Yeah I think they may have found out Tune is not ready or able to play backup QB in the NFL. They should still find someone, but the information learned was important, rather than keeping a guy who showed little, if any, ability to play the position.

 

[milani]

Which is why the best temperature scale is Kelvin. 0K, sometimes called absolute 0, is the temperature at which atoms stop moving. IIRC, you can't actually reach 0K.

It's also useful because F and C are relative scales, while K is absolute. Consider: Raise the temperature 10%. You can do the math, but the result is wrong in F or C. First, freezing temperature of water. In F, trivial. In C, impossible. What is 0 * 0.10? Still 0. And then conversions. 212F vs. 100C, which are equal. Is 10% of each equal? NOPE. 1.1* 212F = 233.2F. 1.1* 100C = 110C. However, 110C actually is equivalent to 230F. Similarly, 233.2F actually is equivalent to 111.77778C.

In short, Long Live K.

Nerd rant over.

Excellent!