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Retiring Favre's #4

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by BerlinWI, Oct 9, 2010.

  1. ivo610

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    You gotta ask yourself, what would Lombardi do?
     
  2. The Real Pack Attack

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    Similarly, normal Packer fans do not harbor the bitter hatred of the minority who post about it incessantly on the internet. The Favre Haters are like a cult; they camp in front of their computers constantly, spewing hatred, and posting meaningless, inane little snipes about Favre (“uh, duh, Favre hit on a sideline hostess . . .”).

    Legitimate Packer fans have moved on from the fact that Ted Thompson forced Favre out of Green Bay in one of the most infamous acts in Packer history. Legitimate Packer fans support the Pack AND Favre. And they will support him when his number is retired and when he is welcomed back to Lambeau on other occasions as well.

    This is a pile of crap! The majority of Packer fans were pissed about Favre's actions the last few years. I think the majority of fans realize that most of this garbage was Bretts doing. How long should a team constantly have to wait for him to give a decision about playing? So they didn't kiss Lord Favre's butt every day and HE decided to retire. So the Packers moved on. How many are questioning if Rodgers was ready to play? I think most of us can admit that the Packers were right to move on!

    I have no problem with Favre playing with the Jets. The issue I and I think most Packer fans have with him was his retiring and un-retiring so he could go play for the Vikes. The "I want to stick it to Ted" comment and the "Go beat the Packers" comment to Peppers last year showed his true feelings. If Brett truly wants to rejoin the Packer family I believe he owes us Packer fans a heartfelt apology. Until that happens I never want to see his number retired or his name on the Ring of HONOR. Now I'm sure eventually the Packers will retire his number and may put his name up on the ring. I for one will not be cheering him on that day!!!
     
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  3. ivo610

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    IluvGB I <3 Packers!!!!

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    *perfect!

    If I could give you more than 1 like to that post I would!
     
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  5. gbforever

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    not another bf thread :/
     

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    Can I toss another name out there? How about the Packers all-time leading scorer? Ryan Shankwell. He too explored the joys of free agency and visited ONE team and signed immediately -- started talking **** right out of the blocks too, disrespecting the City of Green Bay in his first darned interview.
     
  7. IluvGB

    IluvGB I <3 Packers!!!!

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    I was thinking..Shankwell...Shankwell... hmmmm........:fool:.. Then it hit me!!!
    :D I dubbed him..Ryan-So-longwell
     
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  8. TJV

    TJV Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    I for one don't hate Favre. I honestly don’t care enough about him to hate him.
     
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  9. ivo610

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    I think its very possible nothing at all is done. Brett has to want to come back and kiss *ss, I cant see GB retiring a number for a player that doesnt show up. Or changes his mind if he wants to show up. So just leave it. Not retired, not issued. Or just move on and issue it.

    I do wish someone in the organization had the balls to say what they think, that he doesnt deserve it. Retiring #4 is a disrespect to the great players and individuals that have had their numbers retired with the Packers. They were all class acts and made the Team and fans proud. They never stabbed the Packers in the back and were all about themselves. Im proud Reggie White, Don Hutson, Ray Nitschke, Tony Canadeo and Bart Starr were Packers. I am not proud that Brett Favre ever put on the Green and Gold.
     
  10. Raptorman

    Raptorman Vikings fan since 1966.

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    I find it funny how Packer fans remember history. Longwell was never offered a contract with the Packers. Ted didn't want to pay a kicker big bucks. BTW, he wasn't drafted by the Packers either. And as to the article, Favre didn't "sign" with the Jets, he was traded.
     
  11. GreenBayGal

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    Good point. We're all ranting and raving about what to do about old "You Know Who" but have we thought about HIS wishes? Remember, it was pride in the first place that made him want to stick it to the Packers. Would his ego be able to handle a cold welcome by many fans? Indeed, he did endure the boo's when returning to Lambeau with the Vikings however, that was when he was still on a mission and thought he had a chance to twist the dagger.
    Throw in the texting issue. He has to know that that would come up (no pun intended...well maybe) at some point if he returns.
     
  12. AmishMafia

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    Wish they would put the #4 retirement to a vote by fans. I sure as hell would vote no. Give #4 to the next FA punter they sign. Why honor a guy who:

    1. wanted to stick it to the Packers by signing with the Vikings.
    2. Called other teams to help them game plan against the Packers.
    3. Was rooting for the Bears to beat the Packers and prevent them from going to the playoffs.

    Screw him. He is a Viking now.

    As I have said, they need to retire his jersey in a big ceremony, and when BF walks to the mike to speak, Ted jumps in front and says, "I changed my mind about retirement!". On cue the retired number falls from its place from the ring of honor. Pictures the next day show a huge "Favre #4" in a dumpster behind Lambeau.
     
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    Nicely said. I agree with EVERYTHING you said. I also thought Favre was done when he first retired. He didn't want anything to do with cold weather games anymore. You could see in the Bears game & the NFC Championship games that he was more interested in staying warm than actually winning the games. I was also convinced after the Dallas game tha we would be just fine with Rodgers leading the team going forward.

    I was actually very happy when he first announced his retirement. I thought he was doing the right thing for once. I wasn't happy with his unretirement BS. His interview with Greta VS was disgraceful. When the Packers traded him to the Jets I really didn't give a crap. It was time to move on and it was obvious that he didn't want to play in GB anymore.

    His total classless actions since are why I would never consider retiring his jersey or putting his name on the Ring. Calling the Lions and giving them info, weaseling his way out of NY so he could sign with the hated Vikings. His comment to Peppers last year to go beat the Packers was the last straw for me. Total sign of a traitor. Not to mention his off the field behavior. This guy made his bed. He ruined his legacy, he has become nothing more than a punchline now. Why should we show him respect and honor him at all? He needs to come crawling back to us and apologize for being such a tool before I'd even consider any accolades for him.

    Now I know the Packers will probably eventually honor him but if I'm at that game I won't be cheering for him.
     
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    Pack and Ryan were in talks..But with a week left they stopped..

    Ryan was always whining about the holders, the weather and the need to prolong his career in a warm weather place or a dome..

    So while it would have been nice to sign him, he just wasnt going to stay no matter what...

    That same year they offered adam vinatieri a contract worth more than what Ryan got..But he too wanted to prolong his career and singed with the Colts
     
  15. longtimefan

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    LOL@ this

    Favre to play '06 season for Packers - NFL - ESPN

     
  16. IluvGB

    IluvGB I <3 Packers!!!!

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    (How many years ago?? How many times??? :haha: )

    (This gave me a start there... I thought that was ironic choice of words!) LOL!!
     
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    ThxJackVainisi and The Real Pack Attack, I agree that was well said and I agree with each of you, in addition, and what really grated on me was the vacillating each off-season and the drama of "Should I? Shouldn't I?"
    As to the latter years and his propensity at risk-taking, living here in Bear Country one of my most oft repeated replies to their trash talk was "Live by the Favre, die by the Favre," and unfortunately it was die by the Favre all too frequently.
    That being said, it appears to be a given that the organization (at least as long as Murphy is around then) will retire #4. I just don't see him going back on his word now -- unless, of course Favre does something else incredibly stupid -- which is not out of the realm of possibility.
     
  18. PackersRS

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    Peter King interviews Favre for SI, don't remember exactly when, early 2000's I take, and Favre said clearly that he would never play for any other franchise than Green Bay.

    He even said that, if they didn't want him anymore, he would simply retire, rather than play for another team...
     
  19. longtimefan

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    Yup he did...

    But he has the right to change his mind..

    Just as I have the right to change my mind..From going to loving him and never seeing a fault in him to realizing he did things I dont agree with
     
  20. mcoomer146

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    I agree, it has been 10 years between that interview and the time he decided to un-retire.
    :chisux: :elf:
     
  21. Wood Chipper

    Wood Chipper Fantasy Football Guru

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    A righteous person doesn't change his principles.
    Words mean something for some people, for others not apparently.

    I know it has already been discussed, but there are only 3 possibilities in that case.
    1) He lied back then, he was just saying that to please fans.
    2) He meant it, but he's not good for his word
    3) He did mean it, and he does keeps his word, but his legacy with the Green Bay Packers simply didn't matter to him much, so to him, it was as simple as changing his mind about which shoes to wear.

    Either way, it doesn't look good.
     
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    RS---I think it was #2 ( isnt that ironic?) full of crap
     
  24. PackersRS

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    I merged the Favre threads and renamed them so there's no confusion.
     
  25. PackersRS

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    I've posted this over at AcmePackingCompany, but posting in here as well:

    Here's the real Favre:
    [​IMG]

    Maybe the NFL's 1st troll, and certainly the one who lasted the longest.

    His MO was to lead the teams to the playoffs just to throw backbreaking picks.


    Instead of the typical U MAD? phrase following the trolling, he conducted press conferences where he cried and proclaimed to be retired, only to subsequently unretire, and keep the trollage.


    When his first target, the Green Bay Packers, discovered the trolling, he moved to the NYJ and the MN Vikings, where he sucessfully trolled for 3 more years.


    It seems unlikely that Favre will continue his career as a troll with another franchise, but with such high level trollage, anything is possible. Maybe this current break is, in fact, him trolling the entire NFL. Maybe he is the responsible for the work stoppage, and DeMaurice Smith and Roger Goodell are just other usernames he is utilizing right now…
     

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