Studs n duds Bear meat

[melvin dangerr]

Studs
- O Line
- Def
- Willis

Duds

- MLF
- Romeo
- Jacobs

I can’t give MLF a dud on this one, this was all player error with this loss

 

[milani]

Big time players make big time plays, I don’t know if Doubs was hurt when he was on the field for that onside kick, I wish he could have knocked the out of bounds, Romeo is in no way a dud but he made a bad play that made him a dud.

The ball may have gone out on its own but the Bears were closing in. It may not have gone 10 yards when he touched it.

 

[melvin dangerr]

The ball may have gone out on its own but the Bears were closing in. It may not have gone 10 yards when he touched it.

It was very disappointing because Doubs has such good hands

 

[OldSchool101]

Interesting factoid. There’s becoming a realistic chance that the only thing we lost was where we play the Bears in a 3rd meeting.

The Bears win the tiebreaker with Philly with their head to head Win. As long as Chicago Wins 1 more? They’d be a #2 seed at minimum. Ideally that Win would be against Detroit to eliminate them. Looking at Seattle or Rams 1 of those teams will win again and hold the #1 seed.

Which means? If GB Wins 1 more there’s a very good chance this is a rematch in several Weeks. I’d like nothing more than to get an extra bonus game to eliminate them in front of their home crowd. That would be almost equal to a Division Win and us getting bounced by either Seattle or LA in the Wildcard. I’d rather play the Bears again Wildcard weekend.

So.., Go Bears! (gritting my teeth)

 

[milani]

It was very disappointing because Doubs has such good hands

At that point it also becomes mental. Like Biasacia could have called a TO just to get that team in greater focus and giving the players a breather. Kind of like icing a kicker. This was the biggest game of the season. Yes, we blew the Brown game but you needed this one.

 

[melvin dangerr]

Interesting factoid. There’s becoming a realistic chance that the only thing we lost was where we play the Bears in a 3rd meeting.

The Bears win the tiebreaker with Philly with their head to head Win. As long as Chicago Wins 1 more? They’d be a #2 seed at minimum. Ideally that Win would be against Detroit to eliminate them. Looking at Seattle or Rams 1 of those 2 will likely get the #1 seed.

Which means? If GB Wins 1 more there’s a very good chance this is a rematch in several Weeks. I’d like nothing more than to get an extra bonus game to eliminate them in front of their home crowd. That would be sweeter than a Division Win and us getting bounced by a better team.

You said the magic word “IF,” not making plays and bad TOs will not get it done there will be any playoff game(s)

 

[OldSchool101]

Dud: LUKE BUTKUS! Middle of the O-Line has been **** all year, and now Love got knocked into the middle of next spring! You have done NOTHING to fix ANYTHING as O-line coach! Here's the good news though pal, your uncle's team got the win are you happy sir?

Kevin Burkhardt: "Jordan Love has played very well against the Packers throughout his career" Who the hell has this stat? I'd like the numbers sir!

Better than kissing our Sister in Dallas again

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Better than kissing my Sister in Dallas again

I knew you'd come around on that being a bad thing

 

[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Stud: yes McManus, Packer fans at soldier field, Malik
Dud: Doubs is and outstanding receiver but this loss is on him, their would be no overtime Bear heroics if he had recovered that onside kick,he is the DUD who cost us the game,
Big play Nixon, and the secondary, Players play, not the coaches

SOME of the DB issues as well as O-Line (Like I mentioned in my post) I give to Gutey and drop it at his feet. The thing is though players have to learn, or get cut, and position coaches have to coach

 

[chemist]

Studs:
1- Malik Willis, aside for the fumbled snap, he came in and ran the offense as well as you would hope from your backup QB
2- McManus, plus the Bears kicker, they were both perfect with that wind.
3- Emanual Wilson + the OL. Wilson,14 carries, 82 yds, 5.9/att. OL paved the way to the tune of 192 on the ground.

Duds:
1- Giving up only 6 points the first 58 minutes of the game.... then proceed to give up 10 in the final 2 minutes, plus a long TD pass, to lose in OT. Just a heartbreaking finish to this game.
2- Red Zone offense. 5 trips inside the 10 yd line, 9 total pts scored.
3- How earily similar this game was to the Seattle Playoff loss. Gave up a two score lead with less than 5 minutes remaining, muffed an onside kick, and lost on a long TD pass in OT.

My thoughts....
No doubt a brutal loss but before you have a heart attack, before you start ranting and raving, before you start making lists of people who should be fired, traded, kicked off the team, just think about this. Think about all the unlikely plays that had to happen for the bears to win this game.
The on side kick fumble recovery. A play with a very low success rate.
The TD pass to a wide open bears receiver to tie the game with willams almost falling backwards, with a full on blitz in his face as he just throws up a ball that ends up being a pinpoint pass in the corner of the end zone where only the receiver would have a chance for a catch even if there was tight coverage.
The winning Low % deep pass down the sidelines that somehow is perfectly thrown for a TD to win the game in OT.
All of these things happening in the last few minutes, all happening in the same game. Cmon!! There was a lot more to this loss than appears. Fate stepped in. We just werent meant to win this game so let the bears enjoy their christmas miracle. Let their families have some peace and feel good about themselves for once because it has been a long time coming.
There's an old saying, what goes around comes around, scientists call it reversion to the mean, in football the saying everything evens out in the end comes to mind.
The bears won 1 battle, but we have bigger fish to fry. We want to win the war, so I feel fate is saying to us it is necessary for you to go thru this test of fire to toughen you up for the stretch run, to rally the troops, to solidify us as a team all working together so when the time comes we can have our own SB miracle.

 

[gonzozab]

Is Doubs usually in that spot on onside kicks? He is supposed to be a hands guy. I know Tucker was before.

Why is Doubs even on the hands team with his history of concussions? He didn't look like he wanted any part of recovering that ball.

 

[Pugger]

Green bay is not making the playoffs

And do we deserve yo be? Plus what would we do there? This team isn't as stacked as the 2010 team was. I'll say this- the Bears aren't gonna do much in the post season either.

 

[Pugger]

Interesting factoid. There’s becoming a realistic chance that the only thing we lost was where we play the Bears in a 3rd meeting.

The Bears win the tiebreaker with Philly with their head to head Win. As long as Chicago Wins 1 more? They’d be a #2 seed at minimum. Ideally that Win would be against Detroit to eliminate them. Looking at Seattle or Rams 1 of those teams will win again and hold the #1 seed.

Which means? If GB Wins 1 more there’s a very good chance this is a rematch in several Weeks. I’d like nothing more than to get an extra bonus game to eliminate them in front of their home crowd. That would be almost equal to a Division Win and us getting bounced by either Seattle or LA in the Wildcard. I’d rather play the Bears again Wildcard weekend.

So.., Go Bears! (gritting my teeth)

I have no desire to meet up with those creeps again any time soon. All I know is I'll be rooting for whoever they play in the WC round next month.

 

[rmontro]

I just feel like in these last two losses, both teams sucked the spirit out of the Packers near the end of the games. I don't know if GB isn't mentally tough enough or what, but in both cases the other team got stronger as the game went on, and the Packers got weaker. You could see the team deflate both times. Bottom line, we had no business losing that game last night, but we managed to get it done.

Willis didn't look the same after taking that big hit late in the game.

 

[rmontro]

I have no desire to meet up with those creeps again any time soon. All I know is I'll be rooting for whoever they play in the WC round next month.

Don't look now, but there's a decent chance we play in Chicago in the first round.

 

[milani]

You said the magic word “IF,” not making plays and bad TOs will not get it done there will be any playoff game(s)

We have to find a way in. However, I do not think it will be the Bears, although we still may matchup better with them than LA, Seattle, Philly, Carolina, or Tampa on the road.

 

[gopkrs]

I just feel like in these last two losses, both teams sucked the spirit out of the Packers near the end of the games. I don't know if GB isn't mentally tough enough or what, but in both cases the other team got stronger as the game went on, and the Packers got weaker. You could see the team deflate both times. Bottom line, we had no business losing that game last night, but we managed to get it done.

Willis didn't look the same after taking that big hit late in the game.

Did we gi into a kind of prevent?

 

[Pugger]

Don't look now, but there's a decent chance we play in Chicago in the first round.

Frankly I'll be surprised if we can hang onto that final playoff spot. With all the bad karma around this team right now with injuries and bad losses I have this feeling deep down it just isn't meant to be. The Panthers or Bucs will probably take that 7th seed. Chicago isn't beating the Rams or seachickens and neither would we in our present state.

 

[Pugger]

Did we gi into a kind of prevent?

Not really. For example in that last play we rushed Williams but he somehow threw a perfect pass into the endzone.

 

[milani]

Frankly I'll be surprised if we can hang onto that final playoff spot. With all the bad karma around this team right now with injuries and bad losses I have this feeling deep down it just isn't meant to be. The Panthers or Bucs will probably take that 7th seed. Chicago isn't beating the Rams or seachickens and neither would we in our present state.

Bad karma is a perfect way to describe it. Right now we could use an exorcist.

 

[milani]

Not really. For example in that last play we rushed Williams but he somehow threw a perfect pass into the endzone.

I prefer going with the pressure like we did most of the game. Caleb may escape but a lot of times he will throw it away or throw it desperately. We got him on that grounding penalty.
Back in 2004 we foolishly fired Ed Donatell and hired Bob Slowik from the Bears. He was relentless with pressure many a time, but he did not know how to teach his defense to adjust for it. And we got burned...A lot.

 

[DoURant]

And do we deserve yo be? Plus what would we do there? This team isn't as stacked as the 2010 team was. I'll say this- the Bears aren't gonna do much in the post season either.

I don't know if we don't deserve to be there, but we really need to make the playoffs... just for the sake of not giving Dallas a Top 18 pick. Hopefully we can make it in, and win at least one game to get that pick closer to the vicinity of the 25th pick in the first rd.

 

[longtimefan]

At that point it also becomes mental. Like Biasacia could have called a TO just to get that team in greater focus and giving the players a breather. Kind of like icing a kicker. This was the biggest game of the season. Yes, we blew the Brown game but you needed this one.

They did that bs Seattle and even told bostick to not touch the ball . He still did

Doubs should have had the ball. He doesn’t need the coach to say hold on to it

 

[rmontro]

Not really. For example in that last play we rushed Williams but he somehow threw a perfect pass into the endzone.

One thing the Bears do that we don't is play a full 60 minutes a game, they finish strong.

 

[OldSchool101]

I just feel like in these last two losses, both teams sucked the spirit out of the Packers near the end of the games. I don't know if GB isn't mentally tough enough or what, but in both cases the other team got stronger as the game went on, and the Packers got weaker. You could see the team deflate both times. Bottom line, we had no business losing that game last night, but we managed to get it done.

Willis didn't look the same after taking that big hit late in the game.

Just my opinion here. Not making excuses we lost fair and square except several dirty hits to our QB’s heads and which I believe are pre planned directives. At least they appear to be. These were not guys trying to avoid the head and colliding, these VERY intentional decisions. Possibly pre planned, Tonya Harding type activity.

Obviously we led the entire game from 3 to 10 points. I thought from watching the game that both venues were very loud and imo that aids the home team. These were 2 contests by what is currently the #1 and #2 seeds in the league and both were already leaders of their respective divisions.

So let’s all remember that these teams were top 2025 teams playing AT HOME. While these are tough losses and somewhat personal, it’s not like GB lost by 2 or 3 scores and got beat on all day. GB could’ve Won either game (especially at Chicago) and it was more our own self inflicted mistakes that both capitalized on. Between GB and Denver we’ve went -3 net turnovers. We’ve had 4 turnovers across the last 2 games (1 not recorded because it was turnover on downs).

Also The Packers have suddenly become one of the worst teams in the Redzone. In 9 Redzone trips (Denver Chicago) we’ve converted 1 TD. That will rarely work against top seeded teams. It needs to be addressed and changes made, because it’s not a fluke anymore. In my opinion it’s partly due to the losses at TE. That position becomes vital inside the opponent 20 yardline. Matt needs to utilize our RB’s more in the Passing game in those situations imo. That’s what teams with great RB’s do. (Detroit etc)

So we went -3 turnovers and played a backup QB and still went toe to toe with 2 of the probably best 6-7 teams in the league in their house. It’s not like we can’t win on the road, but it’s certainly easier playing at home.