That’s funny.
Lot of interesting opinions from former players and coaches. I believe it was just unfathomable that Ron Wolf could ever hire a head coach so incompetent. But that does not mean he was a bad DC. One of the 3 Packer regular season losses in 1997 ironically came at the hands of Ray Rhodes in Philly 10-9. As a head coach he was just so disorganized and disconnected. A lot like a Lion coach in the 60s named Harry Gilmer. Devine was an excellent college coach but very inflexible at the professional level. I can only speak what I heard players say in articles and books. The story went down in 1972 that Dave Hanner ran the defense, Bart Starr ran the offense, and Devine did nothing. The 1972 team was a pleasant surprise. Some players blamed him, however, for the playoff loss at Washington and the subsequent failures in 1973 and 1974. Lombardi was able to outcoach George Allen. Devine was not able to do that. We could go microscope his 3 years there but anyone playing in the shadow of Lombardi was a tall order to fill.
There was the Hadl trade. Also moving Gale Gillingham from guard to defensive tackle. The merry go round with QBs Scott Hunter and Jerry Tagge, both of which got to start right after college without that 3 year tutorship that Rodgers and Love received. I will say this. The Packers drafted K Chester Marcol in the 2nd round in 1972. He became Rookie of the Year and had a good run in GB. The role of Coach-GM was not too uncommon then. We really needed a FT GM. Lombardi was authoritarian and a workaholic. We should not have tried to replicate him. In hindsight I wish the Packers had hired young Joe Paterno as Tony Canadeo lobbied.
That’s amazing that we drafted Chester that early. I’ll never forget the time he had a blocked Kick returned for a TD.
Soccer style kickers were just beginning to come of age. The Gogolak Brothers showed success in the 1960s. When Chandler retired after 1967 our place kicking was terrible for 3 seasons. Chester was crucial in 2 late season games that gave us the division in December of 1972. He kicked 4 against Detroit and 3 in Minnesota when the Vikings still played outside.
Heath has far exceeded my Day 3 prediction in the draft and battling for the 5th or 6th spot.
Put him on the field with Wilson to play with the 1's vs Seattle Saturday. See if they are men against men or just dominate vs the jv squad. Also start Walker at RT with Tom a center while you're at it. Same reasoning.
While I like your idea, I would be surprised to see many starters playing on Saturday. First, most of them got decent game time in both of the preseason games played. Given that and wanting to keep starters healthy for opening day, I think MLF empties the bench on Saturday and many starters won't even be suited up. Also, the roster is still near 90 guys, so lots of depth positions to look at.
I just don't want to move Tom from R tackle. He is doing good there and there are plenty of great pass rushers from that side. I also can't see moving Walker around if he is going to do well at L tackle.
MLF has already stated JL10 can't get enough reps before the season. Some X statement.
If Walker does as decent at RT as he did at left, he may have passed Nijman. We know DB69 will start at LT. I want Meyer on the bench or trading block.
But if Walker can play on the left side; that would be nice for probably next year. Never really noticed him before but his size looks very good for over there on the left. And so with Tom on the right; we just need to get it right for the middle 3. If we do have it good for the outside two; leave it alone and work on the inside 3 imho. (assuming Walker can handle it
) And I don't care what they do there. Nothing sacrosanct after figuring out the tackles. This "put your best 5 out there" is hogwash. It just is not that simple. I blame the coaches for putting tackles where they shouldn't have been in two big playoff losses. I don't trust them now to get it right. I see a lot of musical chairs, but we'll have to see.
Agree.
Saw that yesterday. Kind of surprised, but it makes sense that they feel he needs more work. I still don't think it will be more than a series or 2.
There is the week off before the games start now. That two week wait is long.
MLF said that Love is playing on Saturday. I'm guessing he will give him the starting offensive line for the time he is in to protect him. I'll be there, so it should be a fun preseason game. Kick off to the regular season. Let's go!
I agree. It's time to light some fires under people. Let them know that there are guys out there knocking on the door, to take their jobs away. They might just find a couple of guys definitely worth keeping in the process.
I have to wonder if Tom even wants to play center, at least long term. The average salaries for the OL from highest to lowest are:
Gutey and Day 3 O-Lineman is like Ted was with Free Agency, and to me after 2008 FA is the one area Ted was great at.
I don't know about that. Ted didn't do a lot of big FA signings. His 2 best IMO. were Woodson (2006) and Julius Peppers (2014). Pickett was probably his 3rd best and I think that was 2006. Maybe Guion can be considered a decent signing in 2014 as well.
I remember it being halfway through the season Saturday knew he didn't have it anymore and told the coaches, not him being benched.
