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Packers vs Browns Studs and Duds

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Shawnsta3, Oct 20, 2013.

  1. Jordyruns

    Jordyruns Cheesehead

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    Going to the masthay kicking off debate, I wouldn't mind seeing Crosby and masthay take turns depending on the situation. It definitely cannot help masthays punting by kicking off now so splitting duties should help.

    The officiating crew gave us the Finley unnecessary roighness call so I don't think complaining about the refs is fair. I've almost come to expect a couple bad unnecessary roughness alls to happen every game and as long as they are equally called I'm not going to complain. Its almost become part of the "new" NFL.
     
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  2. PFanCan

    PFanCan That's MISTER Cheesehead, to you.

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    Yeah, I agree. Still, we are minus two top receivers.
     
  3. 12theTruth

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    IMO, in terms of when all 3 are on the field at the same time Jones, Cobb, and Nelson are 1a, 1b, and 1c in no particular order. From my perspective though in terms of how their loss affects the offense losing Jones it is the least critical to our offense. Its very close between the other two but I think losing Jordy hurts more than losing Cobb.
     
  4. PFanCan

    PFanCan That's MISTER Cheesehead, to you.

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    Stud = Hyde. Played well. I don't think McMillian played a down outside STs.
     
  5. 12theTruth

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    Hallelujah!!
     
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  6. GoPGo

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    Bottom line is with these three guys, we can generally lose any one of them and not miss a beat, but miss two and things get tough in a hurry. If i was going to only have one of them at my disposal it definitely wouldn't be Jones and I'm not sure which I'd prefer between Cobb and Nelson or if it really matters much. I guess I'd go with Cobb due to his versatility.
     
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  7. Bensalama21

    Bensalama21 Ben

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    Why can't we just have a normal Super Bowl run like any other team? Haha... Why can't we put together our 2010 season and 2011 season? Why?!?
     
  8. FrankRizzo

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    The coverage and return units were atrocious, and have been terrible all year.
    Not physical covering, and no blocking from week one on... for Jeremy Ross and Randall Cobb.

    It's Slocum, not the injuries.

    Our LB unit is missing 4 of it's top 5, including the 2 starting OLBs, and our defense didn't suck.
     
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  9. GoPGo

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    No they haven't. They haven't been the best but they haven't been "terrible" either. You seem to thing everything is just black and white.

    Did it occur to you that the other team is comprised of professional athletes as well? Browns happen to have excellent return units.
     
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  10. FrankRizzo

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  11. GoPGo

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    First off, you said, "...coverage and return units were atrocious, and have been terrible all year." Your link only refers to kickoff returns.

    If you look at punt returns, we are TENTH.
    In kickoff coverage, we are 21st.
    In punt coverage, again we are 21st.
    Yes, our kickoff return average on the season is 32nd. But that needs to be broken down into "before cutting Ross" and "after cutting Ross." After Ross we are 20th.

    Average all that out and adjust for Masthay's booming punts and Crosby's 87.5 FG% thus far and our special teams as a whole are most certainly not "terrible." Meciocre... average.. those terms would apply much better. There are certainly worse.
     
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  12. Einstein McFly

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    The deciding factor for most backups is their skill on special teams, so when they get injured or moves to starting spots and are replaced by new guys who are picked up due to short handedness and not special teams skill and who haven't practiced there, you have to expect there to be a drop off.

    Somehow some people seem to think that it makes them seem wise or something to dump on coaches, as if that means they know more. Not sure what gave them that impression.
     
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  13. Trapped In Vikingville

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    "Fatigue"??? He's a punter / kick off man. With that being said, I feel it's probably just an off night.
     
  14. ThxJackVainisi

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    Studs not mentioned yet: McCarthy for instilling a “no excuses” attitude on the team dating back to the Super Bowl year and before. It sounds a bit hokey to me but his theme last week was “Keep calm and carry on”, which he took from a WWII era poster his wife has in their home. It was issued by the British on the eve of the Battle of Britain. Somehow in his pre-game speech to the team, AJ Hawk turned it into “Keep calm and chew bubble gum” (according to Sam Shields) but it seemed to work all the same. (If Hawk keeps on playing the way he has for the past couple of games, I don't care what he says!) McCarthy gets a lot of crap here (some deserved) but the big picture IMO is he has a pretty good handle on his teams’ mental state and he straddles the players’ coach/disciplinarian pretty well.

    Mike Neal for playing with his shoulder injury. He didn’t play his usual number of snaps (considering the other injuries) but it was good to see him out there.

    Rodgers: It's easy to take him for granted. His 0 INTs were even more important than his 3 TDs IMO.
     
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  15. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    ^ IDK if I can agree with your portion of "discipline" being "pretty well". We have had a BUNCH of just pure stupid penalties that have caused the bad guys to have a free set of downs. That body slam was just dumb, that taking off your helmet personal foul on jolly was inexcusable, the other fighting and crap that happens which normally leads to us getting in trouble is pure lack of discipline. We are lucky that we didn't get flagged for shoving guys that were several feet out of bounds, that happened twice during the browns game. Also lucky that the browns offense sucked as bad as it did, many other teams would have used all those free downs to break it off in our A$$.
     
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