Valuation of NFL Teams

[Pokerbrat2000]

Doesn't mean a thing. It's all tax exempt land so NJ barely makes a dime. In fact, when the SB was at the Meadowlands 5+ years ago, ALL of the Super Bowl events were held in NYC. New York got most of the revenue and NJ got blamed for bad transit to and from the event.

Little brother.

It's "tax exempt land" because they rent it (don't own it). The land is owned by the state-run New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority (NJSEA).

The New York Giants and Jets generate an estimated $300 M in annual direct economic impact for New Jersey, largely through visitor spending, local hospitality, and job support. While the teams' massive franchise revenues stay private, they pay the state a combined ground lease of $6.3 M annually.

 

[rmontro]

Doesn't mean a thing. It's all tax exempt land so NJ barely makes a dime. In fact, when the SB was at the Meadowlands 5+ years ago, ALL of the Super Bowl events were held in NYC. New York got most of the revenue and NJ got blamed for bad transit to and from the event.

But Oakland doesn't have San Francisco's NFL or MLB teams.

 

[milani]

But Oakland doesn't have San Francisco's NFL or MLB teams.

Oakland no longer has ANYTHING. LOL!

 

[milani]

It's "tax exempt land" because they rent it (don't own it). The land is owned by the state-run New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority (NJSEA).

The New York Giants and Jets generate an estimated $300 M in annual direct economic impact for New Jersey, largely through visitor spending, local hospitality, and job support. While the teams' massive franchise revenues stay private, they pay the state a combined ground lease of $6.3 M annually.

I think that right now that locale, whether in one state or another, has to worry more about having losing teams than revenue. It has had that for a long time.

 

[rmontro]

Oakland no longer has ANYTHING. LOL!

Wow, you're mean. Lol.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I think that right now that locale, whether in one state or another, has to worry more about having losing teams than revenue. It has had that for a long time.

While I know what you are saying and that may be a concern for fans, but for the owner of each NFL team, not really. Every NFL team turns a massive profit. Doesn't matter if they win a Super Bowl or go 0-17. The Average profit of each team in the NFL in 2025 was $151M, that is profit, not total revenue, which was $692M.

Hard not to make a huge profit, when each team is guaranteed a national media payout of $432.6 million in 2025. Who pays for that? Fans that watch the NFL and/or anyone buying the products advertised.

Notice where both the Giants and Jets are on the top 5 list.

The top NFL teams by operating income (profit) and estimated revenue for the 2025 financial period include:

• Dallas Cowboys
  • Revenue: $1.234 billion
  • Operating Income (Profit): $629 million
• Los Angeles Rams
  • Revenue: $764 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $244 million
• New England Patriots
  • Revenue: $762 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $222 million
• New York Giants
  • Revenue: $707 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $181 million
• New York Jets
  • Revenue: $663 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $180 million

People laugh at Jerry Jones and call him a terrible owner. Maybe, when it comes to his player decisions, but he knows what he is doing when it comes to making money.

 

[milani]

While I know what you are saying and that may be a concern for fans, but for the owner of each NFL team, not really. Every NFL team turns a massive profit. Doesn't matter if they win a Super Bowl or go 0-17. The Average profit of each team in the NFL in 2025 was $151M, that is profit, not total revenue, which was $692M.

Hard not to make a huge profit, when each team is guaranteed a national media payout of $432.6 million in 2025. Who pays for that? Fans that watch the NFL and/or anyone buying the products advertised.

Notice where both the Giants and Jets are on the top 5 list.

The top NFL teams by operating income (profit) and estimated revenue for the 2025 financial period include:

• Dallas Cowboys
  • Revenue: $1.234 billion
  • Operating Income (Profit): $629 million
• Los Angeles Rams
  • Revenue: $764 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $244 million
• New England Patriots
  • Revenue: $762 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $222 million
• New York Giants
  • Revenue: $707 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $181 million
• New York Jets
  • Revenue: $663 million
  • Operating Income (Profit): $180 million

People laugh at Jerry Jones and call him a terrible owner. Maybe, when it comes to his player decisions, but he knows what he is doing when it comes to making money.

I get that, too. And Jerry, even with his money has had to lament 30 years without a SB. That is not how he wants to go out. Winning means more than just money, even for billionaires, whether in sports or other ventures. It is why Lombardi went back on the field instead of sitting in that suite counting greenbacks.
The Cubs usually had plenty of faithful and pretty good revenue over the last century. But the 108 years between world series titles was as painful as Moses in the wilderness for 40 of them.

 

[rmontro]

I get that, too. And Jerry, even with his money has had to lament 30 years without a SB. That is not how he wants to go out.

Well, if you take his three wins and average it out, that's one Super Bowl every ten years, not bad.

 

[milani]

Indeed. With a little more stability the Boys were on the precipice of becoming a dynasty like the 60s Pack and 70s Steelers and 9ers 80s.

Well, if you take his three wins and average it out, that's one Super Bowl every ten years, not bad.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Well the latest Valuation of the Vegas Raiders has to have all NFL owners jumping for joy and out buying new mansions. In 1 year, the estimated value of the Raiders went from $7.9B to $11B.

In 2015 that poor franchise was only worth an estimate $1.43B.

Imagine if your assets grew at a rate of 669% in a little over 10 years.

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Interesting stuff, thanks Poker. I knew these NFL franchises grew quickly, but would not have guessed these numbers.

It’s an example of a market that keeps growing substantially each year. That’s hard to pull off after a few years.

The NFL keeps finding ways to monetize their product(s). And guess who pays?

 

[Heyjoe4]

A's are moving to Vegas. They are in Sacramento (as of 2025 season) until their new stadium is built.

I’ve been to an As’ game at the Coliseum. Calling it a “pit” is being too kind. It’s worse than the old Milwaukee County Stadium. Concrete crumbling and awful sight lines.

 

[rmontro]

Indeed. With a little more stability the Boys were on the precipice of becoming a dynasty like the 60s Pack and 70s Steelers and 9ers 80s.

I don't know which team I hated more, those Cowboys or the '85 Bears. Aside from the fact that we played them IN DALLAS every time for years, and they won EVERY ONE of them. And aside from the fact that they were our main obstacle to the Super Bowl for several years:

They also won three Super Bowls in four years, and I REALLY did not want them to win three in a row, because that would match the Packers feat as the only team to win three straight NFL Championships (they did it twice). Nor did I want them to win five in seven years, because that is also an unmatched Packers feat.

Silly things to worry about I guess, but it's true. Oh, to be (relatively) young and have no real problems lol.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

And guess who pays?

Everyone. Even those people who say that they hate the NFL and will never pay attention to it. Well, you are still "paying" for it.

 

[milani]

Wow, you're mean. Lol.

I always think of Charlie Finley.

 

[rmontro]

I always think of Charlie Finley.

That's funny, I was just talking about the old A's. Remember when he wanted to introduce that orange baseball?

 

[Heyjoe4]

I don't know which team I hated more, those Cowboys or the '85 Bears. Aside from the fact that we played them IN DALLAS every time for years, and they won EVERY ONE of them. And aside from the fact that they were our main obstacle to the Super Bowl for several years:

They also won three Super Bowls in four years, and I REALLY did not want them to win three in a row, because that would match the Packers feat as the only team to win three straight NFL Championships (they did it twice). Nor did I want them to win five in seven years, because that is also an unmatched Packers feat.

Silly things to worry about I guess, but it's true. Oh, to be (relatively) young and have no real problems lol.

Well these thoughts may be silly, but I'm certain they are shared by a sizable majority of fans. The Cowboys were a real PITA for the Packers for a number of years.

After so any years, post-Lombardi, of truly bad football, I knew things had changed (after the hiring of Wolf and Holmgren) when those Favre-led teams started beating the Cowboys AND Vikings on their turf. That was a big swing that led to the SB win in '97.

 

[Heyjoe4]

That's funny, I was just talking about the old A's. Remember when he wanted to introduce that orange baseball?

Charlie was one-of-a-kind. He had some really great teams. Didn't his As win three consecutive WSs in the 70s. I thought that happened, not sure of the years though.

Not sure why MLB never tried an orange ball. Or maybe they did and dumped the idea. And for a baseball purist, an orange ball would be heretical.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I get that, too. And Jerry, even with his money has had to lament 30 years without a SB. That is not how he wants to go out. Winning means more than just money, even for billionaires, whether in sports or other ventures. It is why Lombardi went back on the field instead of sitting in that suite counting greenbacks.
The Cubs usually had plenty of faithful and pretty good revenue over the last century. But the 108 years between world series titles was as painful as Moses in the wilderness for 40 of them.

Good points. Jerry, or any owner, can't buy a SB championship, unlike MLB. The 30-year drought for the Cowboys is fine w/ me. The Cowboys and the Vikings are heated rivalries. Sure the Packers/Bears goes back about 1,000 years, but aren't as intense as the Cowboys/Vikings.

Of course the Bears sucked for decades, with the big exception of 1985. It's hard to call it a rivalry when one team dominates so much. But things come around, and it looks like the Bears are legitimate rivals, finally. As despicable as Johnson is, he's a good HC with a talented team.

 

[rmontro]

After so any years, post-Lombardi, of truly bad football, I knew things had changed (after the hiring of Wolf and Holmgren) when those Favre-led teams started beating the Cowboys AND Vikings on their turf. That was a big swing that led to the SB win in '97.

Actually, Favre's Packers never did beat the Cowboys in Dallas. And only beat them in Lambeau after we had won SB XXXI.
Reminds me of how Rodgers was similarly snakebit against the 49ers in the playoffs.

And for the record, I liked the orange baseball.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Not sure why MLB never tried an orange ball. Or maybe they did and dumped the idea. And for a baseball purist, an orange ball would be heretical.

They actually did try it for 1 game. Charlie Finley introduced the "Alert Orange Baseball" during a Spring Training exhibition game on March 29, 1973. He believed the bright color would make the ball easier for players and fans to track. However, the experiment was declared a disaster and the ball was quickly retired. The specific issues included:

Grip: Pitchers complained the orange dye made the leather too slippery to grip properly.

Visibility: Batters stated the red seams blended in with the orange leather, making it impossible to see the ball's spin.

Despite all the complaints by the batters....During the trial game, both teams combined for 16 runs and 27 hits.

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[Heyjoe4]

Actually, Favre's Packers never did beat the Cowboys in Dallas. And only beat them in Lambeau after we had won SB XXXI.
Reminds me of how Rodgers was similarly snakebit against the 49ers in the playoffs.

And for the record, I liked the orange baseball.

Thanks rmontro those are some interesting facts I didn't know, thanks. And yeah, SF had Rodgers' number. strange how this can happen.

I like the orange baseball too. It makes the game safer IMO. And tradition be damned if it's a good idea and would make the game safer and probably more fun/easier to watch.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I like the orange baseball too. It makes the game safer IMO. And tradition be damned if it's a good idea and would make the game safer and probably more fun/easier to watch.

I don't think even an orange ball prevents this one.

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[rmontro]

They actually did try it for 1 game. Charlie Finley introduced the "Alert Orange Baseball" during a Spring Training exhibition game on March 29, 1973. He believed the bright color would make the ball easier for players and fans to track. However, the experiment was declared a disaster and the ball was quickly retired. The specific issues included:

Grip: Pitchers complained the orange dye made the leather too slippery to grip properly.

Visibility: Batters stated the red seams blended in with the orange leather, making it impossible to see the ball's spin.

Despite all the complaints by the batters....During the trial game, both teams combined for 16 runs and 27 hits.

Sounds like nobody liked it. But that seems kind of contradictory. Sounds like they hit it just fine.
I doubt if it really made that much of a difference, but one game isn't much of a sample size.

I like the orange baseball too. It makes the game safer IMO. And tradition be damned if it's a good idea and would make the game safer and probably more fun/easier to watch.

I don't know if it's a good idea or not, I just like it. Seems fun.

 

[milani]

Charlie was one-of-a-kind. He had some really great teams. Didn't his As win three consecutive WSs in the 70s. I thought that happened, not sure of the years though.

Not sure why MLB never tried an orange ball. Or maybe they did and dumped the idea. And for a baseball purist, an orange ball would be heretical.

The players did not like him, but they played for him.

 

[milani]

Actually, Favre's Packers never did beat the Cowboys in Dallas. And only beat them in Lambeau after we had won SB XXXI.
Reminds me of how Rodgers was similarly snakebit against the 49ers in the playoffs.

And for the record, I liked the orange baseball.

It was ironic that in 1996 we played them in Dallas on MNF. The Packers gave up 7 FGs from Boniol and lost 21-6. But we were banged up. Brooks had the ACL. Freeman had broken his arm. And Chmura was out as well. Our D was on the field trying to stop Emmitt. Even Jacke missed a short FG. Had we been at full strength we may have won or taken it to the end.
Packer fans were hoping to get the Boys in the postseason. But after beating Denny Green and the Vikes, Dallas loses to Carolina and it resets the scenario.
Finally, in 1997 we got them at Lambeau. Dorsey Levens ran roughshod in a 45-20 Packer win. Strange that with Rodgers and Love at the helm the Packers appeared to enjoy going to Dallas.