OFFICIAL GIANTS PACKER TALK

[RandyM]

7 Eli Manning, QB NYG 589 359 61.0 4,933 8.38 99 29 16 28 92.9 308

1 Aaron Rodgers, QB GB 502 343 68.3 4,643 9.25 93 45 6 36 122.5 310

 

[longtimefan]

No worries. Always looking for some good football discussion. At least you're open to it.

Always!

 

[passtheSALSA]

you said Jennings may not have Jennings like numbers on Sunday... I gave you the reason above... No mention of top to bottom who is better at wr or te...

So you're saying the Packers are just as good with a potentially hindered Jennings?

 

[RandyM]

Plus Rodgers sat out a game...

 

[RandyM]

So you're saying the Packers are just as good with a potentially hindered Jennings?

What do you think?

 

[passtheSALSA]

What do you think?

I think it's ridiculous to think that a team is just as dangerous when their biggest threat, a top 3 WR in the league, isn't playing to his full potential.

 

[Kitten]

So you're saying the Packers are just as good with a potentially hindered Jennings?

There isn't really an easy answer to that. We are certainly not the same team without him but all of our other weapons are still there. Jennings, albeit in my opinion the best, is but one of many weapons in our arsenal. Nelson, Finley, Driver, Jones, Grant, Starks, Saine, ... that's to just name a few off the top of my head. Our receiving corps is stacked and our QB playing elite. Missing one player hurts us, but not enough to bring us down.

 

[P-E-Z]

Hartford CT.

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[longtimefan]

So you're saying the Packers are just as good with a potentially hindered Jennings?

I think if Jennings is less than 80% then yeah...

But if Greg is pretty much full health, then I do take our WR over yours..

Thats not being a homer, Jones, and Nelson could very well be #1 on some teams...Driver, while old can still do things that amaze people..Then Cobb- a rookie but has some serious skills to hurt people..

 

[RandyM]

I think it's ridiculous to think that a team is just as dangerous when their biggest threat, a top 3 WR in the league, isn't playing to his full potential.

We will find all that out on Sunday @ 3:30 CST time... As of now, it's heresay if he is 100% or not...

 

[RandyM]

I think if Jennings is less than 80% then yeah...

But if Greg is pretty much full health, then I do take our WR over yours..

Thats not being a homer, Jones, and Nelson could very well be #1 on some teams...Driver, while old can still do things that amaze people..Then Cobb- a rookie but has some serious skills to hurt people..

Add Finley to the mix too... he has been used as a wr this year..

 

[Kitten]

I think if Jennings is less than 80% then yeah...

But if Greg is pretty much full health, then I do take our WR over yours..

Thats not being a homer, Jones, and Nelson could very well be #1 on some teams...Driver, while old can still do things that amaze people..Then Cobb- a rookie but has some serious skills to hurt people..

I have a funny feeling that Cobb is going to play a big part in these playoffs, LTF. I have the feeling that they have been coaching him up and are going to release him full force. I like this guy. I'd like to see him take one to the house on a return against the Giants.

 

[RandyM]

I have a funny feeling that Cobb is going to play a big part in these playoffs, LTF. I have the feeling that they have been coaching him up and are going to release him full force. I like this guy. I'd like to see him take one to the house on a return against the Giants.

You know kitten, I have that same feeling

 

[passtheSALSA]

I think if Jennings is less than 80% then yeah...

But if Greg is pretty much full health, then I do take our WR over yours..

Thats not being a homer, Jones, and Nelson could very well be #1 on some teams...Driver, while old can still do things that amaze people..Then Cobb- a rookie but has some serious skills to hurt people..

I'll give you Jones, but I really think Nelson is the product of this Packers system/Rodgers, just as Cruz is for the Giants.

 

[Kitten]

Speaking of Jordy Nelson, there has been some cause for argument on here as to who our #1 WR is (or who is doing better this year). Nelson or Jennings. Nelson has had a break out year, so perhaps even if Jennings isn't 100%, the person you should be watching out for is Nelson. Not to discount Jennings in any way, I think some of you Giants fans are more hoping Jennings, wishful thinking that Jennings is not going to be 100%. Beware, Jennings, even at 80% is still a huge threat and still might demand double coverage, freeing up any number of our other weapons, including our run game.

 

[RandyM]

Speaking of Jordy Nelson, there has been some cause for argument on here as to who our #1 WR is (or who is doing better this year). Nelson or Jennings. Nelson has had a break out year, so perhaps even if Jennings isn't 100%, the person you should be watching out for is Nelson. Not to discount Jennings in any way, I think some of you Giants fans are more hoping Jennings, wishful thinking that Jennings is not going to be 100%. Beware, Jennings, even at 80% is still a huge threat and still might demand double coverage, freeing up any number of our other weapons, including our run game.

They can't and won't ignore Finley

 

[Giantz4Life]

There isn't really an easy answer to that. We are certainly not the same team without him but all of our other weapons are still there. Jennings, albeit in my opinion the best, is but one of many weapons in our arsenal. Nelson, Finley, Driver, Jones, Grant, Starks, Saine, ... that's to just name a few off the top of my head. Our receiving corps is stacked and our QB playing elite. Missing one player hurts us, but not enough to bring us down.

Starks, Grant and Saine are not what most fans outside Packers fans would call weapons. You have 2 average RBs at best and one unproven undrafted rookie. One of them is made of glass, the other is inconsistent, and the other unproven. If you can convince me otherwise then do your best Pat Benatar impression. Your QB and receiving corp is among the best in the NFL, but don't be delusional about your RB core.

 

[passtheSALSA]

Speaking of Jordy Nelson, there has been some cause for argument on here as to who our #1 WR is (or who is doing better this year). Nelson or Jennings. Nelson has had a break out year, so perhaps even if Jennings isn't 100%, the person you should be watching out for is Nelson. Not to discount Jennings in any way, I think some of you Giants fans are more hoping Jennings, wishful thinking that Jennings is not going to be 100%. Beware, Jennings, even at 80% is still a huge threat and still might demand double coverage, freeing up any number of our other weapons, including our run game.

Hey if Jennings can do his job and draw a double then Jordy is going to be a problem. If not, then Jordy is just another good receiver. I think what makes Jordy so good, besides the fact that he is usually single covered, is the fact that Rodgers knows EXACTLY where he'll be on again given play and he's great at helping Rodgers out when he's flushed out of the pocket

 

[RandyM]

Starks, Grant and Saine are not what most fans outside Packers fans would call weapons. You have 2 average RBs at best and one unproven undrafted rookie. One of them is made of glass, the other is inconsistent, and the other unproven. If you can convince me otherwise then do your best Pat Benatar impression. Your QB and receiving corp is among the best in the NFL, but don't be delusional about your RB core.

Bradshaw and or Jacbos aren't MVP candidates either....

 

[Giantz4Life]

Bradshaw and or Jacbos aren't MVP candidates either....

And when did I say they were? I'm not the one talking up our running backs. I'm realistic about what we have. They're good enough to get the job done.

What I do know is that both of them will punch you in the mouth if you try and tackle them straight on. Ask your boy C. Woodson, or Rodney Poole.

 

[passtheSALSA]

Bradshaw and or Jacbos aren't MVP candidates either....

I'll let you take this one Giantz4Life.

 

[longtimefan]

I'll give you Jones, but I really think Nelson is the product of this Packers system/Rodgers, just as Cruz is for the Giants.

No way...The man is a beast...He has moves that are simply amazing..

This isnt a product, this is talent

 

[P-E-Z]

Another one that forgets something..Please compare properly...

Rodgers has 87 less att....and 290 less yards...Hmmmmmmmmmmm 290 yards and was 87 atts less, and your going to brag?

Rodgers missed ONE FULL GAME....Eli didnt..And I am pretty damn sure Eli didnt sit out to much..rodgers sat out full quarters

http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingYards/seasontype/2

Eli--308 yards per game

Rodgers--310 per game

Eli had 16 ints, Rodgers? 6

Eli 29 tds
Rodgers 45 (with missing lot more time then Eli)

The 4th q stat on TD is awesome, something that is truly excellent..

But go ahead..Hang your hat on YARDS, I will take TDs and less ints for the season

You actually proved my point.
GB recievers did not tip passes the way the Giants recievers did. QB error INTS were about the same.
The only Giants recievers that were healthy the whole was Cruz.
Rodger had more TD passes the Giants tend to run on first and goal. 18 rushing TDs
one game is not even close to 87 attempts.

 

[longtimefan]

You actually proved my point.
GB recievers did not tip passes the way the Giants recievers did. QB error INTS were about the same.
The only Giants recievers that were healthy the whole was Cruz.
Rodger had more TD passes the Giants tend to run on first and goal. 18 rushing TDs
one game is not even close to 87 attempts.

Whyt bring rushing in this?

Some one was bragging about the yards Eli had over Rodgers

Stay with in the lines

 

[passtheSALSA]

No way...The man is a beast...He has moves that are simply amazing..

This isnt a product, this is talent

I said he's good, but he's couldn't be #1 on a team other than the Packers/Saints and Colts with Peyton.