Packers trade Damarious Randall to Browns

[Pokerbrat2000]

I for one am getting sick of drafting CB's high in the draft in the hopes to fix the problem. Yeah, I know, other teams seem to have success with it, but then why can't we? Other teams are finding them mid to late rounds too.

I'm watching you Joe Whitt.

 

[AmishMafia]

I for one am getting sick of drafting CB's high in the draft in the hopes to fix the problem. Yeah, I know, other teams seem to have success with it, but then why can't we? Other teams are finding them mid to late rounds too.

I'm watching you Joe Whitt.

Other teams have success with the CBs we draft and don't resign. It's not the players that are the issue.

 

[Firethorn1001]

It was going to be at least a 2 year process to revitalize the secondary at least. Not seeing them doing much this year beyond maybe 1 or 2 Davon House pickups and some draft picks. Just not enough cap space to make big moves in the secondary plus, with some of the players, they probably need to answer the question 'Dom's scheme or player'

 

[GleefulGary]

Other teams have success with the CBs we draft and don't resign. It's not the players that are the issue.

It's not Joe Whitt.

It was Dom Capers. Just watch...you'll see a big improvement.

Especially with Daniels/Clark/Wilkerson up front. That'll take up some blockers for sure.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Hey I'm all about the front seven making the secondary look good, but the front 7 aren't the ones responsible for missing tackles after catches and blown coverages. So until Pettine and Whitt clean that end up, I am still nervous about our defense. I like Mo, but I don't think just one guy is going to be the solution to a defense that will be without Burnett, Randall and House.

Now let's get busy and sign a FA CB or two!

 

[AmishMafia]

It's not Joe Whitt.

It was Dom Capers. Just watch...you'll see a big improvement.

Especially with Daniels/Clark/Wilkerson up front. That'll take up some blockers for sure.

I agree. Most offenses we faced were able to attack our defensive game plan. I believe the only ones confused by Capers scheme was our defensive backfield.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Running game, pass catchers, and OL all above average in my opinion.

I agree about the offensive line when healthy as well as the running game. If you include tight ends the Packers definitely didn't feature above average pass catchers last season.

It seems to me what you have been mentioning repeatedly is that the talent level at CB without Randall is apalling. That sure sounds like evaluating the roster to me. Pretty much the opposite of what you just said.

While I'm analyzing the current depth chart at cornerback I'm advocating for fans to wait until after the draft to make a conclusion about the talent level at the position as I'm convinced Gutekunst will make some moves to upgrade it.

It's not Joe Whitt.

It was Dom Capers. Just watch...you'll see a big improvement.

Especially with Daniels/Clark/Wilkerson up front. That'll take up some blockers for sure.

Whitt definitely deserves part of the blame for the cornerbacks struggling over the past few years.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Whitt definitely deserves part of the blame for the cornerbacks struggling over the past few years.

You mean the ones that stuck around in Green Bay?

 

[GleefulGary]

There's only so much a CB coach can do when the scheme is the limiting factor.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

There's only so much a CB coach can do when the scheme is the limiting factor.

Whitt is the one that has done the most work with the cornerbacks though. He should be held accountable for their struggles as well.

 

[Dantés]

I agree about the offensive line when healthy as well as the running game. If you include tight ends the Packers definitely didn't feature above average pass catchers last season.



While I'm analyzing the current depth chart at cornerback I'm advocating for fans to wait until after the draft to make a conclusion about the talent level at the position as I'm convinced Gutekunst will make some moves to upgrade it.



Whitt definitely deserves part of the blame for the cornerbacks struggling over the past few years.

Even considering tight ends, I think you’d be hard pressed to find 12-15 teams who had a better group of pass catchers than the Packers.

 

[GleefulGary]

Whitt is the one that has done the most work with the cornerbacks though. He should be held accountable for their struggles as well.

Some, yes. All, no.

 

[mkonyn]

I bet they hope Kizer will be what Hundley wasn't; someone they can teach for a year or two, showcase and then trade for a decent draft pick or two.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Some, yes. All, no.

That's what I have been saying all along.

 

[Half Empty]

Some, yes. All, no.

isn't that what "as well" means?

 

[easyk83]

My last post on this subject, but I predict that he'll find a lot of success as a free safety. Watch Damarious Randall become the second player to leave this franchise and then become a better free safety than Haha Clinton Dix.

 

[adambr2]

I bet they hope Kizer will be what Hundley wasn't; someone they can teach for a year or two, showcase and then trade for a decent draft pick or two.

We could have had a decent pick for Hundley last year. We just rolled the dice and thought we could get more and we got burned.

Poor internal evaluation of Hundley. We should have known better than anyone what he was really worth and we greatly overestimated him.

 

[sschind]

We could have had a decent pick for Hundley last year. We just rolled the dice and thought we could get more and we got burned.

Poor internal evaluation of Hundley. We should have known better than anyone what he was really worth and we greatly overestimated him.

Are you sure? I don't recall any offers being made.

 

[GleefulGary]

You never know what you have with a QB til it goes live.

 

[adambr2]

Are you sure? I don't recall any offers being made.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ame-close-to-trading-brett-hundley-on-friday/

This doesn't specifically say we had an offer for Hundley, but strongly implies it, especially the implication at the end that we could get "much more" than our original investment out of Hundley.

A day 2 pick would have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder presumably.

 

[HardRightEdge]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ame-close-to-trading-brett-hundley-on-friday/

This doesn't specifically say we had an offer for Hundley, but strongly implies it, especially the implication at the end that we could get "much more" than our original investment out of Hundley.

A day 2 pick would have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder presumably.

That's not happening.

 

[adambr2]

That's not happening.

Well obviously not anymore, yeah.

 

[rodell330]

Pretty telling stats about the scheme Capers ran. I don’t believe any of the cbs we had last season outside of King were that good...but you can’t ignore what Hyde and Hayward did once they left.

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[sschind]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ame-close-to-trading-brett-hundley-on-friday/

This doesn't specifically say we had an offer for Hundley, but strongly implies it, especially the implication at the end that we could get "much more" than our original investment out of Hundley.

A day 2 pick would have been a 2nd or 3rd rounder presumably.

Thanks for the link. I missed that one or just forgot about it. A day 2 pick would be much more than the original investment IMO. Maybe he was a throw in player in a deal to swap spots and move up a bit and Ted didn't think it was enough for him. Maybe it was for a 2nd or 3rd round pick straight up. We will probably never know.

After last season though I bet we are all wishing he would have taken it, whatever it was.

 

[sschind]

Pretty telling stats about the scheme Capers ran. I don’t believe any of the cbs we had last season outside of King were that good...but you can’t ignore what Hyde and Hayward did once they left.

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my nephew was a member of the national junior honor society in 7th and 8th grade but got D's and F's as a freshman. Is he really stupid or does his high school just not run the right scheme?