Post Draft/UDFA/Off-Season Signings - Each Position Trade Block

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It's not going to be easy for a lot of the draft picks, UDFAs and even a few of the signings (Hardman / Simmons) to make the roster let alone see significant snaps.

Who at each position do you think given the roster structure actually could be a trade piece for Gute and them to keep the growth of folks going? You have to declare one in each position group for the exercise

QB
Malik Willis
- Only by default he has to be the one of course. He for sure holds attraction for other teams, it would be the value of return however that both sides would likely argue over...however this exercise isn't a discussion of what you think a guy could get you - although I'd suspect a team calling about him would likely know anything less than a package starting with a 4th wouldn't even get transferred to Gute lol :)

RB
This one is tough...Jacobs would never be allowed to be considered...so it's Lloyd, Wilson or Brooks...I think if anyone called about anyone it would be a team that was high on Lloyd or has liked what Wilson has shown (perhaps a team that has seen him in preseason contests rake)....but ultimately I would bet if an announcement came through that we traded a RB it actually would be Lloyd if I had to provide something.

TE
This to me is Luke Musgrave and I think he could be the sneaky trade piece anyways for a team truthfully. When healthy he has shown out and a team in desperate need of a TE could call...last year this team was efficient with Sims and Fitzpatrick backing Kraft up...Savion could provide a little bit of what Musgrave does already so while I don't think this ever happens...in the TE room he is the only one that makes sense.

WR
I've said Doubs before, but with Watson out, I don't think Gute would get offered the capital he would need in return to justify taking away one of the most steady WRs we have. With Golden and Savion drafted, plus Mecole brought in, I truly think Malik Heath (Bo Melton possibly) is getting turned into a 7th rounder somewhere honestly - or a player swap.

OL
It has to be Sean Rhyan or Rasheed Walker, both on expiring contracts...Morgan in the waiting now a second round Belton and John Williams who can absolutely play...plus Monk progressing hopefully...it just makes too much sense.

DL
I don't see anything happening here but, since we have to mention one I think it would have to be Kenny Clark...as I don't think anyone calls about Brooks / Wooden / Wyatt(especially now that Packers picked up his 5th year option)

EDGE
While some of the fan base wants the answer to be LVN, I don't think Gute at all would come off of him as he started showcasing last year everything they envisioned likely when they drafted the incredibly young kid from Iowa. Kingsley Enagbare has starting experience, has delivered before in the league and a team needing an edge might find him attractive and with the addition of now two more edges in the draft, plus the emergence of Cox last year might leave the room needing some ability to breathe if you will. Kingsley is my pick.

LB
In truth Quay has to be this one as well...Cooper would be a non-negotiable IMO. As contracts currently sit, Quay has the most attraction from other teams - has been a starter essentially his entire NFL life and is extremely athletic, and really started showing out last year more and more than he ever had.

CB
Jaire
...no need for discussion....now outside chance I'd say Nixon if Jaire stays and Valentine or Hobbs beats Nixon out (which they ought to) for the starting opposite wide corner)...but that isn't the world we are presently as I pose this question.

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Bullard 100%
.....Hobbs has shown better in slot coverage in his career...Nixon is a solid slot option...Johnathan Baldwin from UNLV is a dude I REALLY think we have to find a spot for and he is a safety that excels again in slot. I don't want to trade Bullard, as I am very high on him, but I'm even higher on Evan Williams and in truth Bullard could be a shocking piece that has very attractive traits and contract for another team that could be safety hungry.
 

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It's not going to be easy for a lot of the draft picks, UDFAs and even a few of the signings (Hardman / Simmons) to make the roster let alone see significant snaps.

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Bullard 100%
.....Hobbs has shown better in slot coverage in his career...Nixon is a solid slot option...Johnathan Baldwin from UNLV is a dude I REALLY think we have to find a spot for and he is a safety that excels again in slot. I don't want to trade Bullard, as I am very high on him, but I'm even higher on Evan Williams and in truth Bullard could be a shocking piece that has very attractive traits and contract for another team that could be safety hungry.
Interesting note on Johnathan Baldwin, when the Packers signed him yesterday, they note him as a CB not as a Safety. With his size only being 190lbs, CB might be the best spot for him.

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Interesting note on Johnathan Baldwin, when the Packers signed him yesterday, they note him as a CB not as a Safety. With his size only being 190lbs, CB might be the best spot for him.

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Eh wouldn’t worry too much about it, dude is good! And they gave him a ton of guaranteed money for a UDFA he’s a slot, box or deep or wherever type guy truthfully
 

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This is a really good topic, which I've been thinking A LOT about since Tyni posted it.

GB is solidly in their playoff window, with a lot of young talent. I don't disagree with most of Tyni's choices, but I'll throw out my couple that differ.

QB - would have to be Clifford (6th or 7th). If Love goes down for any time Willis has shown he can come in & keep the offense moving & putting up some points. Unless a team offers a 2nd rounder not worth moving on from Willis.

OL - I'm going with Tom. I know, he's a top 5-8 OT, but if Gute can get a high pick (or 2) for him, rather than pay him top-5 OT $, I'd be ok. GB staff want a big, bullying OL, and Tom is the smallest at his listed weight of 304 lbs. Walker is 334 lbs & better than average. Get him focused on his run blocking & I think could be pretty good while commanding 1/2 of what Tom will cost. Put Morgan (311 lbs) at RT, with Banks (325lbs), Jenkins, & Rhyan (321) OR Belton (335 lbs) that's a big, bullying OL. 2026 Rhyan could even be re-signed reasonably cheap to play OC if Jenkins is a cap casualty.
 
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OL - I'm going with Tom. I know, he's a top 5-8 OT, but if Gute can get a high pick (or 2) for him, rather than pay him top-5 OT $, I'd be ok. GB staff want a big, bullying OL, and Tom is the smallest at his listed weight of 304 lbs. Walker is 334 lbs & better than average. Get him focused on his run blocking & I think could be pretty good while commanding 1/2 of what Tom will cost. Put Morgan (311 lbs) at RT, with Banks (325lbs), Jenkins, & Rhyan (321) OR Belton (335 lbs) that's a big, bullying OL. 2026 Rhyan could even be re-signed reasonably cheap to play OC if Jenkins is a cap casualty.

You just went where my mind had but my heart wouldn't allow me. @Dantés and myself have been saying what so many have and that is the fact Tom is all pro or close type level tackle and Walker is the clear guy out...but damnit, it is true what you're saying. Bottom line IF Belton shows can absolutely be a first man up type depth piece, plus a guy like Williams or Monk showcases being capable - moving Walker or Tom is something I think you have to try to do...money is going to get tight here on the horizon and this window as long as Love is in his prime is constantly going to need replenishing swings in the draft hopefully.

Watch while logic says Walker or Tom...it will be Sean Rhyan traded for like a 6th or something...LOL
 

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We have a legitimate chance at winning a SB this year. There is no way we trade our best OL. His 305 weight was from the combine. He is probably heavier by now. i seem to recall a draft profile saying they thought he was undersized but had the frame to add 15 or 20 lbs. I would bet he is over 315 and probably between 320 and 325.

Anyway, I don't think we trade any OL. I think it is likely we trade a WR, Doubs is most likely. I am starting to think we keep Jaire as well. Anyone else leaves it's for a conditional 7th round pick.
 

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I'm just going to say something very general. I think this is the year we make it by having a well rounded and possibly dynamic offense with a good defense. And that combo could take us all the way.
 
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We have a legitimate chance at winning a SB this year. There is no way we trade our best OL. His 305 weight was from the combine. He is probably heavier by now. i seem to recall a draft profile saying they thought he was undersized but had the frame to add 15 or 20 lbs. I would bet he is over 315 and probably between 320 and 325.

Anyway, I don't think we trade any OL. I think it is likely we trade a WR, Doubs is most likely. I am starting to think we keep Jaire as well. Anyone else leaves it's for a conditional 7th round pick.

I didn't include a % someone might have on IF this occurred - this is all what player makes the most sense. It very well could be actually that Rhyan makes the most sense for us as we lose the least, but you have to if living in the world of trading the other team has to has a desire and that for sure would be one of the tackles.
 
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Good Stuff.
I’m going to offer this but moreso being self critical of one of our own players. I’m normally Mr Optimist so I think it’s only fair to balance that with what I see when a player doesn’t elevate. My eye test on Bullard thus far sees a player who struggled a little early on. I’m being somewhat critical because he was a Rookie etc.. so I’m not expecting him to look like Edgerrin Cooper day1. To be blunt, 2025 isn’t a training ground for potential, it needs to be the best player gets the bulk of playing time. We have like 3-4 Options that can play slot at a high level.

I just want to see (expect) some growth from Bullard in year 2. Maybe I’m having flashbacks of that Darnell Savage type player that just never really stands out. So I don’t want to prematurely negate him. Bullard heeds to bring it in Year 2 as he’s got a lot of competition for that role.
 
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I’m going to offer this but moreso being self critical of one of our own players. I’m normally Mr Optimist so I think it’s only fair to balance that with what I see when a player doesn’t elevate. My eye test on Bullard thus far sees a player who struggled a little early on. I’m being somewhat critical because he was a Rookie etc.. so I’m not expecting him to look like Edgerrin Cooper day1. To be blunt, 2025 isn’t a training ground for potential, it needs to be the best player gets the bulk of playing time. We have like 3-4 Options that can play slot at a high level.

I just want to see (expect) some growth from Bullard in year 2. Maybe I’m having flashbacks of that Darnell Savage type player that just never really stands out. So I don’t want to prematurely negate him. Bullard heeds to bring it in Year 2 as he’s got a lot of competition for that role.

It didn't help Bullard that Williams and Cooper both popped as well...but Bullard still for a rookie was quite solid, definitely some growing pains but was still NFL worthy. That said, Hobbs could push him for packages in the slot...Johnathan Baldwin is the type of guy that really could push him as that slot/box option as well. Will be interesting, Bullard has every chance to really cement himself in a spot.
 
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RB. Emmanuel Wilson. This is NOT a condemnation but more a compliment. If we believe Lloyd is back we have options at RB. Letting Amar Johnson and Jalen White fight for that 4th (PS) spot.
Chris Brooks in small sample both outdid Wilson in
per carry (5.1 per) and
per reception (6.3)
Per target (5.3)
Per touch (5.4)
Rec %84.6 (13 targets)

In small sample he led all RB’s in efficiency across Run/Pass. It’s not a stretch to think he can handle a bigger workload as our #3 behind Lloyd. In a pinch, he model a RB2 with a regulated snap count.

Now Wilson isn’t a slouch. He’d be a solid #3 RB on many teams (roster able) in cheap $1M money.

7th straight up
Or
6th/7th swap with an earlier drafting team.

It’s that or play it safe with Wilson and stash Chris Brooks and lose some return on investment.
 
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OG
Sean Rhyan
($1.4mil Cap savings)

Sean had been a pleasant surprise. However we’ve got a plethora of option right now that can play OG.
Marquise Hayes LG John Williams T/G (projected to reduce inside) Aaron Banks LG Jacob Monk C/RG, Trey Hill C/RG possibly Morgan T/G
Sean would offer starter potential for a team with concerns at OG.

Projected team with earlier draft place
6th Straight up
Or
5th/7th Swap with a contender.

I’m not anxious to part with him. I just don’t see him being here in 2026 and in an imaginary trade world would both Net Cap (400-500K) and some future Day3 draft equity for a Guard needy team. We’ve likely got Seans replacement on this roster for peanuts $$$ already.
 
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OG
Sean Rhyan
($1.4mil Cap savings)

Sean had been a pleasant surprise. However we’ve got a plethora of option right now that can play OG.
Marquise Hayes LG John Williams T/G (projected to reduce inside) Aaron Banks LG Jacob Monk C/RG, Trey Hill C/RG possibly Morgan T/G
Sean would offer starter potential for a team with concerns at OG.

Projected team with earlier draft place
6th Straight up
Or
5th/7th Swap with a contender.

I’m not anxious to part with him. I just don’t see him being here in 2026 and in an imaginary trade world would both Net Cap (400-500K) and some future Day3 draft equity for a Guard needy team. We’ve likely got Seans replacement on this roster for peanuts $$$ already.
Don't disagree one bit... but we've got 2 starting OT's in need of new deals between now & next March. Tom's estimated contract (per PFF) is 4yr/$88mil, & I'm guessing Walker is looking for $10-$12mil/yr (more if he keeps improvjng in '25). Plenty of OL's on the roster with solid collegiate experience outside at Tackle. That's the main reason I pitched Tom as a trade candidate, save big cap space paying a rookie-deal RT for a few years, get bigger/bullier, & get higher draft capital.
 
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Don't disagree one bit... but we've got 2 starting OT's in need of new deals between now & next March. Tom's estimated contract (per PFF) is 4yr/$88mil, & I'm guessing Walker is looking for $10-$12mil/yr (more if he keeps improvjng in '25). Plenty of OL's on the roster with solid collegiate experience outside at Tackle. That's the main reason I pitched Tom as a trade candidate, save big cap space paying a rookie-deal RT for a few years, get bigger/bullier, & get higher draft capital.
I gotcha.

If depends on the draft capital or $$$ for me. I see your point in that scenario only because $12Mil yearly gets you 1-2 pretty good additional Veterans inked.

Now if Walker wants $17.5Mil yearly and Tom $22Mil probably keeping Zach
Tom. Also the draft capital would have to be too good to pass up. Like a 3rd straight up etc.
 
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IMO. If the Pack trade an OL this year, then their season is not going as well as expected. Another year to evaluate Jenkins at center, Morgan at LT, Walker, Rhyan & Tom. If as earlier stated, which I do not necessarily agree with, replacements are already on the roster then make your decisions on who to resign after the season and reap the benefits of the probable compensatory picks of those you let go. IMO this is an absolute no-brainer.
 
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IMO. If the Pack trade an OL this year, then their season is not going as well as expected. Another year to evaluate Jenkins at center, Morgan at LT, Walker, Rhyan & Tom. If as earlier stated, which I do not necessarily agree with, replacements are already on the roster then make your decisions on who to resign after the season and reap the benefits of the probable compensatory picks of those you let go. IMO this is an absolute no-brainer.

I do believe in a scenario we move one is because Belton comes in as ready as they felt Morgan was and he showed.
 

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I do believe in a scenario we move one is because Belton comes in as ready as they felt Morgan was and he showed.
I'm hoping Belton makes it impossible to keep him out of the starting 5 (Banks, Jenkins & Belton LG-C-RG). Would make life easier on the coaches to then cross-train Rhyan, Monk, Hayes, Jennings, etc. on IOL positions. Guessing OT's will be a battle between Walker, Tom, Morgan, Glover, & Telfort to find best 4?

Might they try Belton at RT, occasionally, to increase OL weight by 30+lbs, leaving Rhyan at RG?
 
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Don't disagree one bit... but we've got 2 starting OT's in need of new deals between now & next March. Tom's estimated contract (per PFF) is 4yr/$88mil, & I'm guessing Walker is looking for $10-$12mil/yr (more if he keeps improvjng in '25). Plenty of OL's on the roster with solid collegiate experience outside at Tackle. That's the main reason I pitched Tom as a trade candidate, save big cap space paying a rookie-deal RT for a few years, get bigger/bullier, & get higher draft capital.
I think the only way they trade Tom is if we are 1-7 near the trade deadline. He's easily our most valuable offensive lineman. Why break up a good line if you are in playoff contention? Future cap savings is not a good reason imo.
 
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Packers have officially signed the Canadian QB Taylor Elgersma

Not surprised, he is a skilled big armed prospect. Few quick notes I have on my sheet:

- Great deep ball thrower...want to take a shot, he can take it.
- Good on the move playmaker...not talking a Vick or Lamar type guy, but he doesn't get frazzled out of the pocket *BUT don't take this as a hint he is athletic...he's not a good mover
- Excellent RPO type guy

Negative notes:
- Very low level competition to this point (held up decent at Senior Bowl though).
- Pocket awareness is RAW
- Easy to bring down by apparently inferior defenders
- Risk taker...slinger that likely against good competition would be turnovers
 
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Packers have officially signed the Canadian QB Taylor Elgersma
I had him as my 7th rounder in the Contest. Looks like an interesting prospect. Low cost developmental guy. He’s like taking a Division III type, but that’s a total stud.

We did something similar at WR a few years back. Picking an XFL? player and he was very close to making cuts after fighting his tail off on returns etc.
 
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I had him as my 7th rounder in the Contest. Looks like an interesting prospect. Low cost developmental guy. He’s like taking a Division III type, but that’s a total stud.

We did something similar at WR a few years back. Picking an XFL? player and he was very close to making cuts after fighting his tail off on returns etc.
you thinking of CFL phenom Reggie Begelton?
 
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you thinking of CFL phenom Reggie Begelton?
Yes!! I thought he was actually pretty good. Maybe WR6 worthy anyway. Good Returner also

Just looked him up since 2022 he’s caught 3,226 yards and 15 TD! (Calgary Stampeders)

Instead we got Darrius Shepherd (6rec 46 yards) and Juan Winfree. Everyone seemed high on Shepherd, I thought he sucked lol
 
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