2024 Salary Cap as related to Free Agency

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Extremely good defensive tackles are very hard to find. Imo, they are going to be one of the more impactful players in the league.
While I agree that the top player at every position is hard to find, my point is, are they worth having to pay them top money? Also, I don't consider Kenny C to be a top 10 NFL player at his position. Probably not even top 20. Add to that, he will be 28 in October and already has 8 NFL seasons on his body. His game is probably trending down, rather than up. I would prefer to steer clear of any big long term contracts with him. Keep him around, but only if the numbers make sense and an exit strategy is there, if his abilities take a nose dive.

I am a big Davante Adams fan, but I am glad that the Packers didn't get tied into his new contract. I believe their current receiving room, including TE's makes less than Davante. Great player, but tying up that kind of money on 1 guy, other than a QB? No thanks.
 
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While I agree that the top player at every position is hard to find, my point is, are they worth having to pay them top money? Also, I don't consider Kenny C to be a top 10 NFL player at his position. Probably not even top 20. Add to that, he will be 28 in October and already has 8 NFL seasons on his body. His game is probably trending down, rather than up. I would prefer to steer clear of any big long term contracts with him. Keep him around, but only if the numbers make sense and an exit strategy is there, if his abilities take a nose dive.

I am a big Davante Adams fan, but I am glad that the Packers didn't get tied into his new contract. I believe their current receiving room, including TE's makes less than Davante. Great player, but tying up that kind of money on 1 guy, other than a QB? No thanks.
Yes. For me anyway, It’s called the old Eggs in a Basket. If I can get 3-4 players for the price of 1 Big contract I’m going that route. There are a few exceptions such as an Aaron Donald type player at his prime. The issue with these guys isn’t assumed impact as much as projected reliability. If Davante Adams isn’t on the field for 1/2 season it’s a colossal loss of value imo. Give me a WR who is 90% of him at $18Mil. Another 2 WR’s that are solid WR2-3 types at $4-8Mil. There’s my $29 Mil but if one goes down? I like my chances better than if Davante goes down.
 

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Yes. For me anyway, It’s called the old Eggs in a Basket. If I can get 3-4 players for the price of 1 Big contract I’m going that route. There are a few exceptions such as an Aaron Donald type player at his prime. The issue with these guys isn’t assumed impact as much as projected reliability. If Davante Adams isn’t on the field for 1/2 season it’s a colossal loss of value imo. Give me a WR who is 90% of him at $18Mil. Another 2 WR’s that are solid WR2-3 types at $4-8Mil. There’s my $29 Mil but if one goes down? I like my chances better than if Davante goes down.
Spot on.

A good cautionary tale is Bahk and to some extent, Rodgers. With the NFL contracts shifting to a ton up guaranteed money for top players, signing one can really put a stranglehold on your cap. As you correctly point out, might be better to spread that risk/investment over several players.

Jaire is a guy that may and I hope proves me wrong, but making him the top CB in the league, never sat well with me. Second contracts for big money are a little bit easier to stomach, at least you have a guy that physically, is still in his prime.
 

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While I agree that the top player at every position is hard to find, my point is, are they worth having to pay them top money? Also, I don't consider Kenny C to be a top 10 NFL player at his position. Probably not even top 20. Add to that, he will be 28 in October...
Don't want to perpetuate an error as we discuss Clark... his B-day is 10/04/1995 which has him turning 29 yrs old by game 6 this year.

Imho, let him play out this year, move on in '25, & we'll take the '26 4th or 5th Rnd comp pick. I love Clark, but fear a bigger 3yr deal & then an injury screws the cap, again.
 

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Don't want to perpetuate an error as we discuss Clark... his B-day is 10/04/1995 which has him turning 29 yrs old by game 6 this year.

Imho, let him play out this year, move on in '25, & we'll take the '26 4th or 5th Rnd comp pick. I love Clark, but fear a bigger 3yr deal & then an injury screws the cap, again.
We better start picking some big fast interior Linemen if we plan to let Clark go.... This year and next year. Clark is a great player, and has earned a reasonable extension imo.

Whether or not he wants to be reasonable? That's a different question.
 
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We better start picking some big fast interior Linemen if we plan to let Clark go.... This year and next year. Clark is a great player, and has earned a reasonable extension imo.

Whether or not he wants to be reasonable? That's a different question.
Yeah. It’s not as much about Clark’s ability as it is about how much ability you can buy elsewhere is we retain mega contract $$$ + the bonus he likely nets us a 4th Rounder bonus. It’s not uncommon at all to get into a ZaDarius Smith fiasco if we’re not careful.
 

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We better start picking some big fast interior Linemen if we plan to let Clark go.... This year and next year. Clark is a great player, and has earned a reasonable extension imo.

Whether or not he wants to be reasonable? That's a different question.
My thinking as well. This is why I fully expect two DL to get drafted and I hope 1 is in the first three rounds.
 

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Yeah. It’s not as much about Clark’s ability as it is about how much ability you can buy elsewhere is we retain mega contract $$$ + the bonus he likely nets us a 4th Rounder bonus. It’s not uncommon at all to get into a ZaDarius Smith fiasco if we’re not careful.

Clark leaving in FA, could be a legit contender for a third round comp
 
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Zadarius leaving in FA, could be a legit contender for a third round comp
Packers cut Za'darius, thus nothing towards a compensatory pick. Maybe you meant if Clark left via FA? No doubt he would be a 3rd, 4th at worst. That is, if the Packers don't sign someone that offsets it.
 

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Packers cut Za'darius, thus nothing towards a compensatory pick. Maybe you meant if Clark left via FA? No doubt he would be a 3rd, 4th at worst. That is, if the Packers don't sign someone that offsets it.
Apologies zero clue why my fingers typed that, Meant Clark.
 

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Unless Gutey trades up, it could be a late night for Packer fans.

Up to ten minutes per pick. If every team took those 10 minutes, Gutey would be on the clock at 11pm CST.
And just like in fantasy drafts it seems that everyone likes to take the maximum allotted time. I'm just glad those are usually limited to a couple of minutes or less.
 

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He could also trade back into the 2nd round and we are up late for zero picks. I seem to remember this happening not too long ago. On the other hand, if he did that what a day 2 it could be.
 

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He could also trade back into the 2nd round and we are up late for zero picks. I seem to remember this happening not too long ago. On the other hand, if he did that what a day 2 it could be.
I'm kind of expecting this move back. As long as we don't trade up I'm good.
 
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The Packers currently have the 7th most available Cap space in the league at $30.4mil available. There is $8mil dead from Campbell pushed onto the 2025 Cap, but the financial flexibility created here is still notable.
 

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The Packers currently have the 7th most available Cap space in the league at $30.4mil available. There is $8mil dead from Campbell pushed onto the 2025 Cap, but the financial flexibility created here is still notable.
I think its comical that the article's headline reads:

"Packers save nearly $10 million in cap space"​


The link is a bit more honest by using the word "gain", but that still is not 100% accurate.

The Packers "deferred" nearly $10M in cap space from 2024 until 2025. Yes, they gained cap space for 2024, but they lost the same amount of cap space for 2025.

Now will they use it or bank it? They have 2 big contracts to thing about. One is basically a must and that is Jordan Love. The other, is Kenny Clark and personally, I won't mind seeing them pass on that one.
 

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I think its comical that the article's headline reads:

"Packers save nearly $10 million in cap space"​


The link is a bit more honest by using the word "gain", but that still is not 100% accurate.

The Packers "deferred" nearly $10M in cap space from 2024 until 2025. Yes, they gained cap space for 2024, but they lost the same amount of cap space for 2025.

Now will they use it or bank it? They have 2 big contracts to thing about. One is basically a must and that is Jordan Love. The other, is Kenny Clark and personally, I won't mind seeing them pass on that one.

Kenny's contract is going to get done during season or not at all...and I suspect before trade deadline because I truthfully will argue for the fact while I wouldn't be shocked one bit to see this team compete for a NFCCG this year, I still think 2025 is the BIG year of expectations. That means push to the now...trading Clark if you're not going to sign allows return either immediately or in next year's draft.

Letting Kenny just walk, while it will possibly net you a 3rd round comp pick, it won't be till 2026 draft...I think the right thing to do by Kenny and the team is IF sides are not going to get a deal done, talk with Kenny and see if a common liked suitor can be reached in a trade.

I say that not easily of course and don't take that as a defense of the move, just the reasons which are valid to do it.

There is arguably just as much value if you start out 2024 gangbusters and say sitting at 4-0 or so telling Kenny let's go out in style and part ways as champions.
 

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