Roster Statuses looking into 2024

[tynimiller]

Forgot I had this saved at home...

Okay, regardless of what happens in the playoffs - many have started discussions or wonderings about certain players. My goal here is to provide a thread that lists EVERY player and whether they are contracted past this year or not, and if they are what is their salary situation next year:

GUYS BOLDED HAVE CONTRACTS BEYOND 2023, GUYS ITALICIZED DO NOT. Figures are rounded of course

QBs
JORDAN LOVE - He currently has one more year on his extension which was signed last year that essentially gave him more money upfront (2023) and spread a similar hit as a fifth year option would have in 2024 across two seasons. Packers could choose to absolutely disrespect Love and say you have a contract and do nothing and Love would only cost them $7.7M against the cap, but he does have around $8.5M in void money spread through 2027. An extension is gonna happen IMO, but wouldn't necessarily have to.
SEAN CLIFFORD - He is signed through 2026 on his draft deal and costs VERY little. Only $996K in 2024

RBs
AARON JONES - Signed through next season but his figure balloons this next year higher than anyone not named Kamara in his position to an astounding $17.7M..he is the only main running back signed through next year.
AJ Dillon - Not signed past this year.
Patrick Taylor - Not signed past this year.
Emmanuel Wilson -Not signed past this year.

TEs
LUKE MUSGRAVE - Signed through 2026 and will only cost $1.9M next year
TUCKER KRAFT - Signed through 2026 and will only cost $1.3M next year.
BEN SIMMS - It seems GB inherited his rookie signing with Vikings if Spotrac is right and only costs us $915K next year and is signed through 2025.
Josiah Deguara -Not signed past this year.
Tyler Davis - Not signed past this year.

WRs
CHRISTIAN WATSON - Signed through 2025 and will cap hit at $2.1M in 2024
ROMEO DOUBS - Signed through 2025 and hits cap for $1M next year
JAYDEN REED - Signed through 2026 and hits cap for $1.6M next year
DONTAYVION WICKS - Signed through 2026 and hits cap for $990 next year
SAMORI TOURE - Signed through 2025 and hits cap for $1M next year
MALIK HEATH - Signed through 2025 and hits cap for $918K next year
Bo Melton - Not signed past this year.

OLs
SEAN RHYAN - Signed through 2025 hits cap for 1.4M next year
ZACH TOM - Signed through 2025 hits cap for 1.1M next year
RASHEED WALKER - Signed through 2025 hits cap for 1.0M next year
DAVID BAKHTIARI - 2024 would be final year and hits for $40.5M
ELGTON JENKINS - Signed through 2026 and hits for $14.5M next year
ROYCE NEWMAN - 2024 final year and hits for $1.2M next year
JOSH MYERS - 2024 final year and hits for $1.75M
Yosh Nijman - 2024 void hit but Not signed past this year.
Caleb Jones - Not signed past this year.
Jon Runyan - Not signed past this year.
Luke Tenuta - One source says signed through 2025 another appears he would need signed.

S
ZAYNE ANDERSON - According to spotrac and other sources he actually is signed into next year for a hit of $1.05M
ANTHONY JOHNSON JR - Rookie deal and hits for $935K
Darnell Savage - 2024 void hit but Not signed past this year.
Jonathan Owens - Not signed past this year.
Johnathan "Rudy" Ford - Not signed past this year.

CBs
JAIRE ALEXANDER - Signed through 2026 and hits for $24.4M next year
ERIC STOKES - 2024 final year (unless we pick up 5th option) and hits for 3.8M next year
CARRINGTON VALENTINE - Signed through 2026 and hits for just $940K next year
Keisean Nixon - 2024 void hit but Not signed past this year.
Corey Ballentine - Not signed past this year.
Robert Rochell - Not signed past this year.


OLBs
PRESTON SMITH - Signed through 2026 and hits for $16.5M next year
RASHAN GARY - Signed through 2027 and hits for $15.9M next year
LUKAS VAN NESS - Signed through 2026 and hits for $5.5M next year
KINGSLEY ENAGBARE - Signed through 2025 and hits for $1.2M next year
BRENTON COX JR - Signed through 2025 and hits for $918K next year
Eric Wilson - Not signed past this year.
Kristian Welch - Not signed past this year.

ILBs
DEVONDRE CAMPBELL - Signed through 2026 and hits for $14.4M next year
QUAY WALKER - Signed through 2025 and hits for $3.8M next year
ISAIAH MCDUFFIE - 2024 final year and would hit for just $1.1M

DTs
KENNY CLARK - 2024 final year (void years after) and hits for $27.5M
DEVONTE WYATT - Signed through 2025 and hits for $4.1M
TEDARRELL "TJ" SLATON - 2024 final year and hits for $1.12M
KARL BROOKS - Signed through 2026 and hits for $968K next year
COLBY WOODEN - Signed through 2026 and hits for $1.1M next year

STs
LS MATT ORZECH - Signed through 2025 and hits cap for $1.2M next year
K ANDERS CARLSON - Signed through 2026 and hits cap for $954K next year
P Daniel Whelan - Not signed past this year.

 

[Dantés]

They need virtually nothing at QB, TE, WR, DL, and ED.

They need multiple dips at RB, OL, LB, CB, and SAF.

Feast or famine.

 

[tynimiller]

They need virtually nothing at QB, TE, WR, DL, and ED.

They need multiple dips at RB, OL, LB, CB, and SAF.

Feast or famine.

Yup Day1 is the only time I could see Gute going DL or Edge at this point but only if the prospect is massively high on our board. After that none of those positions need anything till late and even then arguably nothing.

 

[Dantés]

Yup Day1 is the only time I could see Gute going DL or Edge at this point but only if the prospect is massively high on our board. After that none of those positions need anything till late and even then arguably nothing.

I feel safe ruling out Edge unless they move on from Preston. Even if they do that, I would consider the odds very low.

I feel safe ruling out DL unless they move on from Clark or Slaton. Again, even if they do that I consider the odds very low.

Gute has invested in the defensive front even when people didn't think it was a big need, but these two spots literally don't have room right now unless you jettison a good player.

 

[tynimiller]

I feel safe ruling out Edge unless they move on from Preston. Even if they do that, I would consider the odds very low.

I feel safe ruling out DL unless they move on from Clark or Slaton. Again, even if they do that I consider the odds very low.

Gute has invested in the defensive front even when people didn't think it was a big need, but these two spots literally don't have room right now unless you jettison a good player.

Brooks and Wooden and Slaton all progressing this year way more than many assumed makes that DL room look awesome...they will return I believe nearly 100% of their interior down lineman snaps from this year into next unless something unforeseen happens like a Clark trade or something.

 

[Dantés]

Brooks and Wooden and Slaton all progressing this year way more than many assumed makes that DL room look awesome...they will return I believe nearly 100% of their interior down lineman snaps from this year into next unless something unforeseen happens like a Clark trade or something.

Yes and Clark's cap numbers are prohibitive. You only save 3.26M if you cut/trade him because of a 27.5M dead cap hit.

So he's back. Wyatt has come on big time, Slaton is playing his best ball, Brooks has been a gem, Wooden has shown promise and was a 4th rounder.

5 is typically what they carry.

 

[tynimiller]

Yes and Clark's cap numbers are prohibitive. You only save 3.26M if you cut/trade him because of a 27.5M dead cap hit.

So he's back. Wyatt has come on big time, Slaton is playing his best ball, Brooks has been a gem, Wooden has shown promise and was a 4th rounder.

5 is typically what they carry.

Yup, I put Clark and Jaire in the same boat, only call for trade worth taking better start with a First Round pick in the package or isn't even worth discussing due to next to no savings.

 

[tynimiller]

Yes and Clark's cap numbers are prohibitive. You only save 3.26M if you cut/trade him because of a 27.5M dead cap hit.

So he's back. Wyatt has come on big time, Slaton is playing his best ball, Brooks has been a gem, Wooden has shown promise and was a 4th rounder.

5 is typically what they carry.

Also, if we're honest Slaton is playing himself into a chance at a second contract truthfully. If he progresses again slightly or more in 2024 I could easily see us extending him for his role no one else really has the build to naturally do it but him presently. Clark is able, because he is clark.

 

[Dantés]

Also, if we're honest Slaton is playing himself into a chance at a second contract truthfully. If he progresses again slightly or more in 2024 I could easily see us extending him for his role no one else really has the build to naturally do it but him presently. Clark is able, because he is clark.

Agree, and furthermore, even if they did want to replace him, you don't need a round 1 pick for a run defense specialist.

 

[tynimiller]

Agree, and furthermore, even if they did want to replace him, you don't need a round 1 pick for a run defense specialist.

Absolutely.

 

[mradtke66]

They need virtually nothing at QB, TE, WR, DL, and ED.

They need multiple dips at RB, OL, LB, CB, and SAF.

Currently sitting at 19, I'm not even entirely sure which/what position warrants a Rd1. RB, LB, and Safety should be a special player for round 1, but we're late enough the special ones are likely to be gone.

Maybe a special RB if the rest of the league passes on them? This strikes me as more possible if we win and our pick gets later and later.

Similarly at OL, the blue-chip tackles are likely to be gone before us and I don't know if any OL other than LT is worth a 1.

CB by default? ED/WR if someone unexpected drops?

 

[tynimiller]

Currently sitting at 19, I'm not even entirely sure which/what position warrants a Rd1. RB, LB, and Safety should be a special player for round 1, but we're late enough the special ones are likely to be gone.

Maybe a special RB if the rest of the league passes on them? This strikes me as more possible if we win and our pick gets later and later.

Similarly at OL, the blue-chip tackles are likely to be gone before us and I don't know if any OL other than LT is worth a 1.

CB by default? ED/WR if someone unexpected drops?

Truthfully Cooper DeJean could be there and if so is the perfect fit from a prospect ability to our needs...he can play safety or CB for us, and both likely to be needs.

I think folks might need to be prepared for Gute to do something they don't see coming...there are some assumed high high level guards in this draft...and after the carousel that was Rhyan and Runyan with neither really taking it...don't be blown away if we end up at 19 and go Cooper Beebe or Troy Fautanu...even Christian Haynes possibly.

 

[mradtke66]

Truthfully Cooper DeJean could be there and if so is the perfect fit from a prospect ability to our needs...he can play safety or CB for us, and both likely to be needs.

I think folks might need to be prepared for Gute to do something they don't see coming...there are some assumed high high level guards in this draft...and after the carousel that was Rhyan and Runyan with neither really taking it...don't be blown away if we end up at 19 and go Cooper Beebe or Troy Fautanu...even Christian Haynes possibly.

I dislike reaching for needs in the first. As always, I don't think any guard moves the needle on any team in the first, though once you make the playoffs and you're drafting later, it certainly becomes a bit of picking through leftovers.

I want some on in Rd1 capable of tipping the balance on his own. It's always a gamble and you can get it wrong, but part of that means looking for those impact positions that can do that. DeJean plays such a position and CB/S hybrids that are good at both allow you to get cute, though I don't know enough about his game if he is that good or if it'd translate to the pros.

 

[Voyageur]

I dislike reaching for needs in the first. As always, I don't think any guard moves the needle on any team in the first, though once you make the playoffs and you're drafting later, it certainly becomes a bit of picking through leftovers.

I want some on in Rd1 capable of tipping the balance on his own. It's always a gamble and you can get it wrong, but part of that means looking for those impact positions that can do that. DeJean plays such a position and CB/S hybrids that are good at both allow you to get cute, though I don't know enough about his game if he is that good or if it'd translate to the pros.

I think DB is where we need to go. Preferably someone with a lot of speed, who can play free safety, and hit like a jackhammer. If someone is out there who fits that mold, snatch them in the first round.

With a pair of 2nds and a pair of thirds, they have four picks in the top 100. That's a decent take for the draft. We don't have a 5th round pick, but 5th or 6th not a major difference.

That should give the brain trust in the front office ample opportunity to bring on some talented players to fill needs, without actually reaching to do it.

As far as Cooper DeJean, he's one of those guys who is either going to hit it big time when gets to the NFL, or be a bust. He thrives in zone coverage, but has a few chinks in his armor when it comes to man coverage. He can hit, but sometimes fails to finish tackles. That can be fixed. He's one of the quicker CBs who will be hitting the draft. Talent-wise, I think he's pretty much there with Wiggins & McKinstry.

 

[tynimiller]

I dislike reaching for needs in the first. As always, I don't think any guard moves the needle on any team in the first, though once you make the playoffs and you're drafting later, it certainly becomes a bit of picking through leftovers.

I want some on in Rd1 capable of tipping the balance on his own. It's always a gamble and you can get it wrong, but part of that means looking for those impact positions that can do that. DeJean plays such a position and CB/S hybrids that are good at both allow you to get cute, though I don't know enough about his game if he is that good or if it'd translate to the pros.

If you are drafting a guard that starts for you out the gate, that's justified in my opinion for sure and is absolutely not a reach IMO.

Honestly, any position outside Special Teams I say is worth the pick if you draft a Day1 guy and he starts for you out the gate not because he is a first rounder but because he is absolutely of that caliber it was worth it. *That said I'm a hardline no running backs day1 type guy unless they're other worldly LOL

iOL have been happening at quite a high frequency in the top 40 picks of the draft and inside day1.

2023 - Skoronski was a known guard and went 11th last year, Steve Avila Center went just outside first at 36th
2022 - Kenyon Green taken at 15th, Zion Johnson 17th, Tyler Smith 24th, Tyler Linderbaum 25th, Cole Strange 29th
2021 - Alijah Vera-Tucker 14th(has played due to injury some tackle), Landon ****erson 37th
2020 - Cesar Ruiz 24th, Robert Hunt 39th
2019 - Chris Lindstrom 14th, Garrett Bradbury 18th,
2018 - Quenton Nelson 6th, Frank Ragnow 20th, Billy Price 21st, Austin Corbett 33rd, Will Hernandez 34th, James Daniels 39th

 

[tynimiller]

As for Cooper...I've never seen him lower than fourth on cornerback rankings and many say best safety.

Mel Kiper:

Cornerbacks​

1. Cooper DeJean, Iowa
2. Nate Wiggins, Clemson
3. Kool-Aid McKinstry, Alabama
4. Terrion Arnold, Alabama
5. Kamari Lassiter, Georgia
6. Quinyon Mitchell, Toledo
7. Ennis Rakestraw Jr., Missouri
8. T.J. Tampa, Iowa State
9. Denzel Burke, Ohio State
10. Kalen King, Penn State

 

[El Guapo]

The most important position heading into 2024, even higher than safety?!???

We need a new long snapper. Set the market. Find the best. I think that Carlson will find his groove eventually, but he needs someone that consistently hits the holder in the hands.

 

[Dantés]

I continue to think that safety is the spot for them to make a high impact signing.

1) Anthony Johnson Jr. is the only guy under contract next season.

2) Look at the list of pending UFA's (they won't all make it, but still):

-G. Stone (BAL)
-A. Winfield Jr (TB)
-J. Blackmon (IND)
-X. McKinney (NYG)
-K. Curl (WAS)
-B. Jones (MIA)
-C. Gardner-Johnson (DET)
-J. Whitehead (NYJ)
-K. Dugger (NE)
-K. Wallace (TEN)
-D. Elliott (MIA)

There are others, but these are the guys who are under 28 years old and could fit a realistic timeline.

 

[mradtke66]

If you are drafting a guard that starts for you out the gate, that's justified in my opinion for sure and is absolutely not a reach IMO.

You can get a day one starter in any round though. Guard is, or at least should be, one of the easier positions to pickup.

From another point of view, AJ Hawk was a pretty good player for us, but a waste at no. 5. If it he was just a second rounder, he'd be considered one of the best picks we ever made.

Rhyan isn't terrible. In a world where we start Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom, we'd survive. Toss 2 picks in rounds 2-4 at the group and we're likely set.

 

[tynimiller]

You can get a day one starter in any round though. Guard is, or at least should be, one of the easier positions to pickup.

From another point of view, AJ Hawk was a pretty good player for us, but a waste at no. 5. If it he was just a second rounder, he'd be considered one of the best picks we ever made.

Rhyan isn't terrible. In a world where we start Walker-Jenkins-Myers-Rhyan-Tom, we'd survive. Toss 2 picks in rounds 2-4 at the group and we're likely set.

You "can" but again if you know you're getting a surefire elite young guard I don't care if you take him 6th like Nelson - draft him and make your team instantly better for it.

I just push back rather hard against the concept of a guard isn't worth it early, if your scouting department is very confident that you're looking at instantly the best RG we have and likely barring injuries is a surefire second contract type guy you pick him without hesitation and it is absolutely worth it.

Shoot even though I'm very hard against running backs in round 1...if you draft one he better be your #1 out the gate to make it worth it and I can digest it.

 

[mradtke66]

You "can" but again if you know you're getting a surefire elite young guard I don't care if you take him 6th like Nelson - draft him and make your team instantly better for it.

I just push back rather hard against the concept of a guard isn't worth it early, if your scouting department is very confident that you're looking at instantly the best RG we have and likely barring injuries is a surefire second contract type guy you pick him without hesitation and it is absolutely worth it.

Shoot even though I'm very hard against running backs in round 1...if you draft one he better be your #1 out the gate to make it worth it and I can digest it.

To me, it's the value of the position and how much better an elite player is vs. an average to above average player. I'd rather have, for example, the 32nd best edge, CB, or WR than the no. 1. right guard. However good such a RG might be, it's not like he can reliably block more than one man. You can move your best pass rusher away from him. You can put your worst pass rusher up against him and now he's tied up with that guy.

I don't see how any offensive lineman can be a field-tilter. It's just the nature of their job. And among the linemen, RG is probably the least valuable position.

Throw your 1's at the positions that force the other guys to game plan against them. A great WR demands double coverage. A great pass rusher demands double teams. A great CB can shutdown a side of field or take away the best WR.

 

[Firethorn1001]

People will pull their hair out and get pissed or get snarky if the Packers pick a defensive player in the 1st, but this year seems almost a necessity to get CB/S and potentially ILB help. If the 1st 5 picks are some combination of CB/S/RB/OL will be good with that.

Having said that, this will be the year they pick a WR in the 1st and we will all be left scratching our heads....

 

[PikeBadger]

They need virtually nothing at QB, TE, WR, DL, and ED.

They need multiple dips at RB, OL, LB, CB, and SAF.

Feast or famine.

Slaton and Clark have expiring contracts after 24 season. I'll be very surprised if they don't draft at least one defensive lineman.

 

[Dantés]

Slaton and Clark have expiring contracts after 24 season. I'll be very surprised if they don't draft at least one defensive lineman

I'd be surprised if they did in the top half of the draft unless they plan to move on from someone currently in the top 5. Who would make room for the draft pick?

In the back half of the draft, any position is on the table.

 

[Dantés]

Here's how I like to visualize it.

Blue: Above replacement level players under team control (sliding scale depending on whether they're starters or backups)
Green: Above replacement level players entering a contract year
Red: Replacement level players or below
Orange: Cut candidates
Purple: ERFA's
Gray: Players of unknown quality

Quarterback: J. Love, S. Clifford

Running Back: A. Jones, P. Taylor

Tight End: L. Musgrave, T. Kraft, B. Sims

Wide Receiver: C. Watson, J. Reed, D. Wicks, R. Doubs, B. Melton, M. Heath, S. Toure

Tackle: D. Bakhtiari, R. Walker, Z. Tom, L. Tenuta, C. Jones

Guard: E. Jenkins, S. Rhyan, R. Newman

Center: J. Myers

Defensive Line: K. Clark, D. Wyatt, T. Slaton, K. Brooks, C. Wooden

Edge: P. Smith, R. Gary, L. Van Ness, K. Enagbare, B. Cox

Linebacker: Q. Walker, D. Campbell, I. McDuffie

Cornerback: J. Alexander, C. Valentine, E. Stokes

Safety: A. Johnson Jr.

Special Teams: A. Carlson, D. Whelan, M. Orzech

That's 42 overall players, but only ~36-37 that I'm confident I want back. I suspect that most/all of the cut candidates will be back, with the most likely release/retire guy being Bakhtiari.

It will be an interesting off-season. The Packers have 11 draft selections, but even if every pick they make is roster-worthy, I think they will need 5-6 more players. My guess is one splashy move and then filling in the gaps with more modest re-signings or UFA deals.