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  1. ivo610

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    The best jokes are the truest ones huh?

    Was that the 10 scroll long post? I couldn't continue reading that.

    I stand by anyone that compares Reggie and peppers is a F-ing moron and lacks any historical perspective.
     
  2. longtimefan

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    His quote was from 2011-maybe then it might have been relevant to compare him to Reggie..

    But now not so much
     
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    My main concern is how much we are paying him at 34 years old.
     
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    http://www.packers.com/news-and-eve...hortling/f2deda33-61a6-458a-831d-fb69748aeb53

     
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  5. FrankRizzo

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    But Ted signed him now right? Not 2011?
    Who are we to question/doubt Ted Thompson right?
     
  6. longtimefan

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    The point of Aikman comparing him to Reggie was from 2011..So my point is that to STILL compare him to Reggie is really far fetched...

    I probably would have agreed with Aikman and others in 2011, but not now. Dont know why this is really an issue

    Do I have faith in Ted, you betcha, but I still do not like this signing
     
  7. FrankRizzo

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    I agree with that, but also remember Jason Taylor.

    He could come in with his hand in the dirt, like:
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    Or he could come in off the edge standing up, as we have heard mentioned:
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    He was a very good athlete.
    Peppers is a better, rare unique athlete. Taylor might be a better dancer.

    Taylor was 6' 6", but leaner.
    Peppers though, don't forget this guy was the 6th man for the North Carolina Tar Heels basketball team, when they were great. He is a special athlete, and because he's been relatively healthy (this is hard concept for us to comprehend), he's fresher than 34. Put him at 31.
     
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    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/250688631.html

     
  9. PredatorPeppers

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    http://www.packers.com/news-and-eve...hould-do/688c16d9-e54f-4fa9-ba87-52b968d2e154

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/packers/2009-08-31-capers-defense_N.htm?csp=34

     
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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...julius-peppers-right-fit-for-green-bay-packer

    http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/01...for-another-team-next-season-as-a-linebacker/

     
  11. FrankRizzo

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    Reggie White is the reason we won the Super Bowl more than Brett Favre.
    Nobody loves Reggie more than I do.
    I remember that spring when he was on his free agent tour, everyone thinking he'd be going to either San Francisco or Washington. It was early on in the days of the growing internet, and at college via Prodigy, I was watching and refreshing all the time to see if he'd get God's message, and he did.

    Peppers will not dominate as much as Reggie did, I don't think.

    Remember the Packers defense went to #1 pretty quickly. But they also had added many other good vets like Santana Dotson, Sean Jones, etc.

    But like adding Woodson, who everyone else considered done, and adding Reggie, Peppers has the ability -still- to change our defense. And that's a good thing.

    How much difference to our rookies on defense make, even with high picks?
    Datone last year?
    Nick Perry?
    Jerel Worthy?
    Mike Neal?
    Justin Harrell?

    Ted might have finally learned, or Capers demanded of him, that even a talented veteran past his prime, is going to make this defense better, and now, much more than continuing to draft rookies with 1st & 2nd round picks like those guys above.
     
  12. PredatorPeppers

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    Check out what Reggie White, Bruce Smith, Chris Doleman, Kevin Greene, Michael Strahan, John Abraham all did well into their 30s. Peppers is by far more athletic than most of these guys, has never had a major injury that required surgery, will lose about 10 pounds in order to play linebacker this season which should make him even faster, is hungry for a super bowl championship, is super excited about finally playing in a complicated, aggressive 3-4 defensive scheme, will have Clay Matthews lining up opposite him helping to take attention away from him, and he's motivated to show people he can still play at a high level and wants to make a big impact for the Packers. These are the reasons why I believe Peppers will be in the mix for next years Defensive Player of the Year Award.
     
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    And as far as the rumors that Peppers doesn't try hard and takes lots of plays off...

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4669770/trgovac-nothing-wrong-with-peppers-motor

    http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...s-mar08_1_mike-rucker-julius-peppers-john-fox

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicagobears/post/_/id/4665348/peppers-relishes-his-fresh-start

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ys-peppersbears011411

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/ar...-improve/6c68178a-ab97-4162-b54e-8ad51adb8fd1

    http://archive.is/D3O19

     
  15. Shawnsta3

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    So much cherry picking to fit your argument. Shields, Matthews, Raji, Hyde etc. all made positive impacts their first year. Obviously each GM has good, decent & bad picks. Choosing two examples of those while ignoring the third for your argument is a poorly made argument. I would use all rookie examples, good and bad and say at best there's mixed impacts during their rookie years, rather than just point out the poorer or injured picks.
     
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    I chose all defensive LINEMEN.
    Not safeties or cornerbacks.
     
  18. Shawnsta3

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    My apologies then. Though a few of the guys you mentioned were directly hampered by injures, which can happen to anyone right? Draft picks or veteran free agents?
     
  19. NelsonsLongCatch

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    Was doing some research on the topic... Does anybody remember Reggie White playing and starting all 16 games for the Carolina Panthers in 2000? I sure didn't.
     
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    I remember that he came out of retirement to play for the Panthers.
    I don't even hate him 4 it.
     
  21. ivo610

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    Hopefully peppers doesn't continue his decline as he has the past 4 yrs
     
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    PFF isn't a very good webstie imo. Their grading system is flawed, they had Clay Matthews as like the 30 something best OLB this season for an example of how stupid they are. They rank crappy players ahead of great players. Peppers isn't on the decline, he just has had bad luck with injuries over the last couple of seasons but at least he is tough enough to play through them. In 2011 he played with a sprained MCL in his knee, in 2012 he played with plantar fasciitis in his feet, and last season he pulled his hamstring during training camp and missed some of TC and most of the preseason. In 2009 he played with a cast on his broken hand. In 2006 he played with a hurt shoulder. If Peppers remains fairly healthy this season I could see him putting up great numbers as a pass rushing OLB/DE in Capers aggressive defensive scheme...

    70 tackles
    23 sacks
    8 tackles for loss
    8 forced fumbles
    2 fumble recoveries, one returned for a TD
    2 interceptions, one returned for a TD
    10 passes defensed
    2 blocked kicks
    1 safety
    Pro Bowl, First Team All-Pro, DPOtY, Super Bowl Ring. :)
     
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