Packers vs Bears: S103,E1

[El Guapo]

It's the battle for first place. The Bears are 9-3 and the Packers are 8-3-1. If the Packers win, we will be 9-3-1 while the Bears would be 9-4. If we lose it's them at 10-3 and us at 10-4-1 with a big hill to climb.

Despite what @RRyder thinks, the Bears are a good team. They just beat the Eagles on the road, who are (yes) slumping but the Eagles still beat us at during their slump while we were playing at home. I don't think that the Bears are as good as the Packers from a roster comparison, but they've been playing better football than us through the middle of the season. We've now played two really good games lately so hopefully we will win. It's two good teams battling for first place. Get your popcorn ready.

Losing Wyatt is a huge blow but it may be balanced out by getting more offense back with Jayden Reed.

 

[weeds]

I agree. The Bears ARE a good team. The Bears have the #1 seed as of today with the Rams losing to Carolina today. I just want to remind everyone that the Bears would have swept the Pack last season were it not for a long fingernail. These guys are good and they're now well coached.

I don't like the frigging Bears - the Vikes are a cute little expansion franchise - I dislike the Bears for all of the right reasons. Frigging Chicago too.

 

[tynimiller]

The biggest thing this Bears team has vs last year:

- Better OL play, perfect no but they sucked so much last year that they overhauled it and it so far is working.

- Caleb not trying to play hero ball as much.

- The defense IS NOT that great BUT their turnover ratio is INCREDIBLE and we know well how creating turnovers can make a decent or even average defense a top defense.


Our run defense is crucial here. I think LVN being able to go and go full is crucial to helping us handle the Wyatt loss cuz it will allow him to reduce in some, keeping Gary (good against run) and Parsons in more and likely us able to rotate Wooden, Brinson, Stackhouse and hopefully Brooks also in and rested.

I truly think we win this one, but unlike the Bears have chock full of hard teams left….Bears to me just need to split with us and likely force us to have to run table

 

[milani]

The Bears have improved so much in terms of discipline and execution from not only last year but early this season. We expected them to rack up 7-8 penalties a game. Last year they blew many a game in the end. This year they are winning those and showing maturity.
This game will not be like Detroit. It will be cold, icy, and windy. And even though it is not indoor turf when you hit the ground it will hurt. Throwing and catching the ball will be more difficult. Running the football is the key and that means advantage Bears. Because we are ancient rivals neither team gets intimidated in the other's place although the Packers do have the help of the 12th man at Lambeau. There is one slight feather in the Packers' cap. As young as they are they have been in playoff contention each season since MLF got there. So they know what this feels like. The Bears, as good as they are, have not tasted the postseason since the Trubisky days.

 

[RRyder]

It's the battle for first place. The Bears are 9-3 and the Packers are 8-3-1. If the Packers win, we will be 9-3-1 while the Bears would be 9-4. If we lose it's them at 10-3 and us at 10-4-1 with a big hill to climb.

Despite what @RRyder thinks, the Bears are a good team. They just beat the Eagles on the road, who are (yes) slumping but the Eagles still beat us at during their slump while we were playing at home. I don't think that the Bears are as good as the Packers from a roster comparison, but they've been playing better football than us through the middle of the season. We've now played two really good games lately so hopefully we will win. It's two good teams battling for first place. Get your popcorn ready.

Losing Wyatt is a huge blow but it may be balanced out by getting more offense back with Jayden Reed.

Appreciate the call out but nope. Despite beating a Philly team that looked hungover by 9 points they still suck.

Dont gift them multple turnovers and GB is going to win by 2 scores

 

[RRyder]

The biggest thing this Bears team has vs last year:

- Better OL play, perfect no but they sucked so much last year that they overhauled it and it so far is working.

- Caleb not trying to play hero ball as much.

- The defense IS NOT that great BUT their turnover ratio is INCREDIBLE and we know well how creating turnovers can make a decent or even average defense a top defense.


Our run defense is crucial here. I think LVN being able to go and go full is crucial to helping us handle the Wyatt loss cuz it will allow him to reduce in some, keeping Gary (good against run) and Parsons in more and likely us able to rotate Wooden, Brinson, Stackhouse and hopefully Brooks also in and rested.

I truly think we win this one, but unlike the Bears have chock full of hard teams left….Bears to me just need to split with us and likely force us to have to run table

GB remaining schedule: Chicago, @Den, @Chicago, Baltimore, @Minnesota

Chicago remains schedule: @GB, Cleveland, GB, @SF, Detroit

Not sure why you'd think they have an easier schedule remaining. Before last week they had the 2nd hardest schedule remaining

We have them benefit of being the better team and will likely be favored the rest of the way outside of "possibly" @Baltmore with the possibility of the final two games against teams who's season is over

I dont see Chicago favored in any of their remaining games outside of Cleveland

 

[milani]

Appreciate the call out put but nope. Despite beating a Philly team that looked hungover by 9 points they still suck.

Dont gift them multple turnovers and GB is going to win by 2 scores

Do not tell the Packers that. They might be polite.

 

[RRyder]

Do not tell the Packers that. They might be polite.

In fairness if theyre taking a message boards posts to heart we have bigger issues then anything that happens nect week

 

[El Guapo]

Appreciate the call out but nope. Despite beating a Philly team that looked hungover by 9 points they still suck.

Dont gift them multple turnovers and GB is going to win by 2 scores

I knew that if I set out some peanut butter, you'd sniff at the trap.

 

[lambeaulambo]

The Bears have improved so much in terms of discipline and execution from not only last year but early this season. We expected them to rack up 7-8 penalties a game. Last year they blew many a game in the end. This year they are winning those and showing maturity.
This game will not be like Detroit. It will be cold, icy, and windy. And even though it is not indoor turf when you hit the ground it will hurt. Throwing and catching the ball will be more difficult. Running the football is the key and that means advantage Bears. Because we are ancient rivals neither team gets intimidated in the other's place although the Packers do have the help of the 12th man at Lambeau. There is one slight feather in the Packers' cap. As young as they are they have been in playoff contention each season since MLF got there. So they know what this feels like. The Bears, as good as they are, have not tasted the postseason since the Trubisky days.

And we all know how the Trubisky days turned out...trash can.

 

[El Guapo]

Our run defense is crucial here. I think LVN being able to go and go full is crucial to helping us handle the Wyatt loss cuz it will allow him to reduce in some, keeping Gary (good against run) and Parsons in more and likely us able to rotate Wooden, Brinson, Stackhouse and hopefully Brooks also in and rested.

Good points as usual. I forgot about LVN likely being back as well. That should help too.

Can we all admit that we miss Jay Cutler. Where would we be without him giving us a two game boost each season!

 

[RRyder]

I knew that if I set out some peanut butter, you'd sniff at the trap.

There was a trap? And now I want my peanut butter

 

[Vince’s Ghost]

The Bears have been winning with their starting linebackers and corners injured. They are just now starting to get healthy. Johnson is probably the best coach in the league.
The Pack will be fortunate to win, have to stop the run.

 

[OldSchool101]

The matchup will be an interesting dynamic. The Packers have a very good Run Defense (#8) and the Bears now have the #1 Run Offense. We all saw what they did to the Eagles.

However there are 2 sides to the story. Chicago is 31st (5.2) in per carry Defense. Which is pretty dismal.

Conversely, Defensive Yards per carry GB is 5th at 3.9 per.

So while on surface Chicago appears to have the advantage (run to run they do slightly). GB will be one of the more stout Defenses they have seen.

The GB Offense might initially appear as mediocre in yards per, however we have to factor recent success. I noticed GB has been on the rise in Run Offense, Moving to 15th across the last several weeks. That means the Packers are leaning more in the top 10-12 Rushing teams entering December. That in itself might not be impressive, but against a Chicago team defending it at 5.2 per carry it’s going to pretty much even the score imo.

Lastly Josh Jacobs has looked healthier recently. Having another 10 days between Games after a long rest last week is going to energize him. GB is starting to make adjustments in the power run game using some eligible 6th lineman that’s helped the cause. Hard to stop a 325lb TE.

 

[gopkrs]

The Bears have been winning with their starting linebackers and corners injured. They are just now starting to get healthy. Johnson is probably the best coach in the league.
The Pack will be fortunate to win, have to stop the run.

And score

 

[Firethorn1001]

I just want to remind everyone that the Bears would have swept the Pack last season were it not for a long fingernail.

Starting to think people are going to carry this to their grave.

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[milani]

Starting to think people are going to carry this to their grave.

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And now the NFL makes us play the Bears twice in 3 weeks.

 

[OldSchool101]

Feels a little oddball to be hosting the #1 Seed Bears

Realizing someone has to Win and it might or might not be GB. That said, if GB beats Chicago we better hear nothing but praise for beating the 1 Seed.

I’ll also say that Denver reminds me of Chicago in some ways. Winning games but they look very susceptible also.

 

[rmontro]

They just beat the Eagles on the road, who are (yes) slumping but the Eagles still beat us at during their slump while we were playing at home.

To be fair, we were in a slump too when the Eagles beat us. Our offense was very stagnant.

 

[weeds]

Starting to think people are going to carry this to their grave.

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Just this season.

 

[tynimiller]

So I've shared elsewhere, yes many want to claim Chicago is a pretender at their record - fact is though the best team doesn't always win each week, and some years a team literally sees those toss up games consistently come their way. One of the biggest things that typically helps that happen is the crucial turnover battle. Chicago this year for all of it's issues defensively (2nd worst run yards per attempt in the league) make up a LOT of that with their turnover rate. Teams are turning the ball over on 19.8% of their possessions. One of every five possessions this year has resulted in Bears getting a takeaway. That is a clip which is incredible and like GB has experienced in the past can greatly cover up a defenses' true identity.

MLF style lines up well with Bears defense...run heavy (they are not a good run defense) and pick and choose times to pass. So long as we protect the ball I personally truly see this game potentially being controlled very similar to the Vikings' game.

Not only have teams moved the ball on the ground, but they've simply scored a ton too on the Bears. Chicago has given up the 8th most points this season and are easily the only team in the top 10 worst, that despite it have a great record - of the top 10 worst only Dallas (6-5-1), Buccs (7-5) have winning records...the rest are teams like Cinci, Jets, Raiders and Titans...the true bottom of the league.

All that doesn't mean Chicago is an imposter - because unlike those other teams' their offense has done enough and their defense has gotten takeaways when needed to overcome it.

I would go as far as to say, if GB wins the turnover battle we win by 7 or more. If it is even or we lose it, best we can hope for is a chance on the last drive to win.

 

[Half Empty]

The Bears have been winning with their starting linebackers and corners injured. They are just now starting to get healthy. Johnson is probably the best coach in the league.
The Pack will be fortunate to win, have to stop the run.

Just curious. Member for six years, first post?

 

[Firethorn1001]

Just curious. Member for six years, first post?

Probably Bears fan given stated 'Johnson is the best coach, been winning without injured players and Packers would be 'fortunate' to win and Lombardi in the Redskin hat.

Plus it's taken 6 years for these games to be relevant so they were just waiting for the perfect time.

 

[tynimiller]

Probably Bears fan given stated 'Johnson is the best coach, been winning without injured players and Packers would be 'fortunate' to win and Lombardi in the Redskin hat.

Plus it's taken 6 years for these games to be relevant so they were just waiting for the perfect time.

My exact thought process as well.

 

[Pkrjones]

Injury report will be very important this week. With Wyatt done for '25 need to stop da 'Bears run game, so returning LVN & Quay Walker would help immensely. Having Golden opposite Watson would stress Chicago's D, as well.

Stop their run, win turnover battle, run the ball, control the clock & judiciously attempt the long ball. Time to seize control of the North & playoff destiny.