True, then none of us experts would have to bother guessing what the Pack could get in a trade.Sure, they could, but they won't. If the Packers play hardball and the trade doesn't happen, do you really think Rodgers will come back here? By all indications, his thoughts have been to either go to the Jets or retire. That's petty much what he told his buddy on his podcast yesterday. And he's more than welcome to retire.
He was a free agent..might be his physical or maybe just a snag in contract. He was Josh's back up in NEGarropolo deal with Las Vegas still isn't finalized. Is he the Jets fall back option or threat to get Gute to back off?
Is Gute 11th hour negotiating with the Raiders?
Agreed 100%, and even if the money is no factor, there's a zero percent chance that Aaron Rodgers is going to let the Packers dictate his retirement decision. He'll play chicken with us instead if it comes down to it.
I don't think that's going to happen.I honestly could see AR showing up 1265 Lombardi next week saying, if you're not going to trade me, let's starting working on the 2023 game plan. AR has the ability (and personality) to make this very, very awkward for the Packers. Are the Packers prepared to pay him $60 million for 2023?
Is it possible-maybe but I think it unlikely because for one the Jets are desperate and for two I truly believe that Murphy and Gute have planned for this to go the way it's going. Designating AR to be a post-June 1 trade is what I think they want deep down-I doubt that they want to trade him before the '23 draft.Is it possible the Packers screw this deal up? I'm beginning to wonder. And no, I don't blame Rodgers for this, if this blows up it's squarely in the front office's faces. They should have had this hammered out before.
When you invest in a first round QB you are almost obligated to put him out there or you have wasted your pick. Ironically, I think of the NY Jets of 1965 when the bidding wars with the AFL-NFL were happening. The Jets had 3 QBs on the roster: Mike Talifiero, Heisman winner John Huarte, and some guy named Joe Namath. They must have figured one would start, one would backup, and one would be trade bait.There's certainly some truth to that but I do also have to think that the coaching staff and front office must've seen some improvement in Love to feel comfortable in moving on now. If we were convinced heading into the 2022 season that Love was ready to be our starter I doubt we'd have handed Rodgers the massive extension we did. And if we were convinced ahead of the 2023 season that Love *wasn't* ready to be our starter, then I doubt we'd have much interest in moving Rodgers. I'm sure it's not the only factor (and just being real: Gute and the FO are probably to some degree motivated to "prove" Love can do it) but I do think that there must've been some discernible improvement in Love to cause management to change course as they have over the last year. That's encouraging to me to be honest.
I just love how people think this is all the fo fault.Is it possible the Packers screw this deal up? I'm beginning to wonder. And no, I don't blame Rodgers for this, if this blows up it's squarely in the front office's faces. They should have had this hammered out before.
And I think this is what is holding this up. How much are the Packers willing to pony up in money. The more they pay, the better the compensation. Could that be with what they are trying to do by clearing all that cap space?
The only apparent, at least early on, miss is Zach Wilson...but even he showed promise and threw for 4,000 yards his rookie year and I think a year or two behind Rodgers will actually do great things for him.
[Jets pick up phone] (dialing numbers) "Hey Lamar, welcome to the Jets because you sir are getting paid and going to lead us to a Super Bowl."
Also. Did anyone notice that all these reports of a Jets n Packers deal being consummated and we were just waiting on Rodgers to decide was a total hoax? That was possibly the biggest piece of misinformation spread yet.
Probably not, but I think we are probably more comfortable right now with the idea of going into the season with both QBs on the roster than the Jets are with the idea of going into the season with Wilson as their QB1.
Maybe he could be traded along with Rodgers to snag that #13 pick. Then we use one of our first rounders to grab the Texas kid and we're set at RB for the next 6-8 years.
Aaron will advise Woody Johnson/Joe Douglas to go after Davante with their #13 pick and whatever else they will need to get him jettisoned to NY; if/once they strike a deal with Vegas MMxBG will then naturally pivot the conversations on their end to draft compensation for '24/'25 thus giving them the ability to push some of Rodgers' money around by designating moving 12 as a post-June 1 trade (which I believe is what they want anyways)-as a result the Packers will end up with at least a 1st rounder plus a bit extra for 12
Is it possible-maybe but I think it unlikely because for one the Jets are desperate and for two I truly believe that Murphy and Gute have planned for this to go the way it's going. Designating AR to be a post-June 1 trade is what I think they want deep down-I doubt that they want to trade him before the '23 draft.
Think about it-in the debate over who has "leverage" between GB and NY, if the Jets have more leverage it would be between now and the '23 draft in terms of the draft compensation tug-o-war. But once the '23 draft is done if Rodgers is still technically a Packer then now the hourglass shifts and GB would clearly have the leverage because if everything goes to crap GB can simply pay 12 to sit in Malibu and play his guitar while reading philosophical fiction novels while the NYJ fanbase would be frothing at the mouth clamoring why the All-World QB that announced publicly he plans to play with them isn't a part of the team.