Fire Matt LaFleur

[longtimefan]

Lmao, so Ed just showed up? Murphy before that? No they must be appointed...

They don’t have say so in Gm or coaches- this was done when Harlan took over.


yes they vote on president hires

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well, the thread started in 2023, and calls for him to be fired have only picked up steam.

I'm surprised that someone didn't start this thread after Matt's first loss on 9/26/19 to the Eagles. That loss put the Packers at 3-1, ruining the Packers perfect season and crushing some fans hopes for a Super Bowl.

 

[rmontro]

I'm surprised that someone didn't start this thread after Matt's first loss on 9/26/19 to the Eagles. That loss put the Packers at 3-1, ruining the Packers perfect season and crushing some fans hopes for a Super Bowl.

There is that.

 

[milani]

I'm surprised that someone didn't start this thread after Matt's first loss on 9/26/19 to the Eagles. That loss put the Packers at 3-1, ruining the Packers perfect season and crushing some fans hopes for a Super Bowl.

That was a tough game. Adams got hurt in the 4th quarter. Our offense struggled inside the 10. Eagles O line pushed us around.

 

[DoURant]

So we now have 59 pages of this thread "Fire Matt LaFleur" plus another 6 pages of "Matt Extended" complaining that he was extended and not fired... that's 65 pages pertaining to the same talking point. How many more before everyone gets it out of their system? I say you guys are good for at least 125 before the Draft, and 200 by game one in September. I'm not a gambler, but I'm curious as to what's the over/under?

 

[milani]

So we now have 59 pages of this thread "Fire Matt LaFleur" plus another 6 pages of "Matt Extended" complaining that he was extended and not fired... that's 65 pages pertaining to the same talking point. How many more before everyone gets it out of their system? I say you guys are good for at least 125 before the Draft, and 200 by game one in September. I'm not a gambler, but I'm curious as to what's the over/under?

And a year from now do you imagine we will have another 59 pages as well?

 

[DoURant]

And a year from now do you imagine we will have another 59 pages as well?

We will have a new thread " Fire Matt LaFleur Part Deaux"

 

[rmontro]

That was a tough game. Adams got hurt in the 4th quarter. Our offense struggled inside the 10. Eagles O line pushed us around.

I still think the lines are the key to winning football. Guys that are either big enough, athletic enough, or skilled enough to push the other team around. Some of those University of Miami guys looked pretty stout in the college football championship last night, and the IU players looked pretty skilled.

 

[OldSchool101]

We will have a new thread " Fire Matt LaFleur Part Deaux"

‘til deaux do us part”

 

[AGreen2AJones]

They don’t have say so in Gm or coaches- this was done when Harlan took over.


yes they vote on president hires

So that is exactly a football decision. They must hold the President responsible. Ed must be removed. And if the board refuses, the board must be removed as soon as possible.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Got a little bit to go before it hits 'Fire Joe Barry' which was at 82 pages.

I do love the mid-October 2010 one of 'Fire Mike McCarthy' because 'something needs to be done, because whatever we are doing now just aint cutting it now is it?' I mean.. that one flipped 3 months later.

 

[AGreen2AJones]

Got a little bit to go before it hits 'Fire Joe Barry' which was at 82 pages.

I do love the mid-October 2010 one of 'Fire Mike McCarthy' because 'something needs to be done, because whatever we are doing now just aint cutting it now is it?' I mean.. that one flipped 3 months later.

Mike at least would win some playoff games and manager one super bowl run. MLF can't even twin two playoff games in a row. He's 3-7 in elimination games (playoffs plus week 17/18 do or die games)

 

[rmontro]

Mike at least would win some playoff games and manager one super bowl run. MLF can't even twin two playoff games in a row. He's 3-7 in elimination games (playoffs plus week 17/18 do or die games)

He's 0-7 without Rodgers propping him up and against coaches not named McCarthy.

 

[AKCheese]

He's 0-7 without Rodgers propping him up and against coaches not named McCarthy.

And on games right after a full moon which were played on dates ending in a prime number LOL

 

[scooter_1954]

And on games right after a full moon which were played on dates ending in a prime number LOL

I was told there would be no math required!

 

[Sunshinepacker]

So we now have 59 pages of this thread "Fire Matt LaFleur" plus another 6 pages of "Matt Extended" complaining that he was extended and not fired... that's 65 pages pertaining to the same talking point. How many more before everyone gets it out of their system? I say you guys are good for at least 125 before the Draft, and 200 by game one in September. I'm not a gambler, but I'm curious as to what's the over/under?

Until people start to realize that the HC is not the problem and admit the reality that firing one person won't magically let the Packers win the Super Bowl next season. If some fans were in charge of football teams, there would be 31 HC's fired every season.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

If some fans were in charge of football teams, there would be 31 HC's fired every season.

There might even be more firings then that, since some fans want to fire everyone after each loss!

I mean I understand peoples desire for the Packers to win another Super Bowl, but as you correctly infer, there are 31 other fan bases with the same dreams each year. If it was a league of complete and perfect parity, that would mean the Packers win a Super Bowl once every 32 seasons. So I guess that puts us around 2042ish to hoist another Lombardi!

 

[DoURant]

Until people start to realize that the HC is not the problem and admit the reality that firing one person won't magically let the Packers win the Super Bowl next season.

Well I guess we are in luck then, because ours want the GM and new President of Operations fired too... since we didn't fire the HC

 

[scooter_1954]

Until people start to realize that the HC is not the problem and admit the reality that firing one person won't magically let the Packers win the Super Bowl next season. If some fans were in charge of football teams, there would be 31 HC's fired every season.

I don't know, changing HC worked out pretty well for Indiana! While I agree with you in principle, I firmly believe a good HC can instill a different mindset and an attitude in a team. Look at the change in the Bears since Johnson arrived.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

I don't know, changing HC worked out pretty well for Indiana! While I agree with you in principle, I firmly believe a good HC can instill a different mindset and an attitude in a team. Look at the change in the Bears since Johnson arrived.

Ok...now let's look at the Giants, Browns, Raiders, Dolphins, Broncos, etc. and how many coaching changes they've all had, and they've managed to find a really good coach, right? Of those teams I listed I'd say that Payton is the only decent hire out of those 43 combined HC changes since 2002. Heck, let's look at your example of the Bears, Johnson seems like he might be a good HC and it only took Chicago 7 tries to find him!

Sure, there might have been a better coach out there, but the chances were far greater that the Packers got a worse coach than MLF if they fired him.

 

[scooter_1954]

I do not dispute your assertion, but I firmly believe we are lacking some spark with MLF. It feels like a bad marriage sometimes. He seems unable to put the hammer down when necessary, and it affects his team. He may be a great coach someday, but I don't think he's there yet. Your point about Johnson and Payton gives credibility to my thoughts on coaches. They're like QBs or running backs, there are great coaches and also rans. But we know this, MLF ain't getting it done.

But I will also thought about this the other day, about the confluence of events that lead to a Super Bowl victory. Lack of key injuries, favorable calls by officials in key moments (intentional or not), timely decisions by coaching staff, role players stepping up to overperform. Think about it, in the last 10-15 years, who, other than Mahomes or Brady, has had the stars align and won more than one SuperBowl. I guess it's possible we're faulting MLF for factors beyond his control. Perhaps our expectations are too great.

For example, even had we beaten the Bears, (and that loss was inexcusable), I don't see us beating the Seahawks this year. This team had inherent limitations very difficult to overcome. And I say that as a Packer fan of over 60 years!

 

[milani]

Well I guess we are in luck then, because ours want the GM and new President of Operations fired too... since we didn't fire the HC

What was it someone once said?
" YOU'RE FIRED! "

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Well I guess we are in luck then, because ours want the GM and new President of Operations fired too... since we didn't fire the HC

Can the Packers fire a selective portion of the fan base? Asking for a friend who asked me who the Packers head coach was.

 

[mradtke66]

I don't know, changing HC worked out pretty well for Indiana! While I agree with you in principle, I firmly believe a good HC can instill a different mindset and an attitude in a team. Look at the change in the Bears since Johnson arrived.

College Team Credits Football Championship To Discipline, Teamwork, $370 Million (https://babylonbee.com/news/college...ampionship-to-discipline-teamwork-370-million)

Indiana might have bought their championship here...

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I don't know, changing HC worked out pretty well for Indiana! While I agree with you in principle, I firmly believe a good HC can instill a different mindset and an attitude in a team. Look at the change in the Bears since Johnson arrived.

Coaching in the NFL and the NEW NCAA are two completely different animals IMO.

With the transfer portal and unlimited NIL money, the NCAA is the wild west.

I'm not saying that Cignetti isn't a good coach, but give him the HC'ing job at Cleveland and I would be willing to bet he doesn't sniff the playoffs.