Fire Matt LaFleur

[DoURant]

College Team Credits Football Championship To Discipline, Teamwork, $370 Million (https://babylonbee.com/news/college...ampionship-to-discipline-teamwork-370-million)

Indiana might have bought their championship here...

Just making sure here... you know Babylon Bee is a satire account, right?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Just making sure here... you know Babylon Bee is a satire account, right?

I posted this article in the College section of the forum, but if you didn't see it, a good read.

https://athlonsports.com/college-fo...illion-curt-cignetti-contract-extension-bonus

 

[scooter_1954]

College Team Credits Football Championship To Discipline, Teamwork, $370 Million (https://babylonbee.com/news/college...ampionship-to-discipline-teamwork-370-million)

Indiana might have bought their championship here...

Maybe, but that's the state of college athletics today, thanks to loose transfer portals and NIL money! And for the record, you do realize the Babylon Bee is a famous SATIRE SITE, right?

Sorry, DoURant, I didn't see your response when I typed mine.

 

[rmontro]

Until people start to realize that the HC is not the problem and admit the reality that firing one person won't magically let the Packers win the Super Bowl next season. If some fans were in charge of football teams, there would be 31 HC's fired every season.

I don't agree with that necessarily. I suppose there are some people who think like that it, but I'm sure there are very few. This is the first year I have gotten on the fire MLF bandwagon, and it certainly isn't because we don't win the Super Bowl every year. It's because looking at his whole body of work, there are certain tendencies that pop out at you, and the trajectory that he's been on is not a positive one. I did not come to the side of moving on from MLF lightly.

 

[mradtke66]

Just making sure here... you know Babylon Bee is a satire account, right?

I do, but his point stands. Indiana dumped a bunch of money into their program which was a likely driver to their success.

 

[OldSchool101]

Statistically an “average” team should compete in a SB Bowl every 16 seasons and Win a Super Bowl every 32 seasons. So let’s see.. 16 seasons from 2010 is?.. by Golly George we’re in for quite a treat.

 

[tynimiller]

Statistically an “average” team should compete in a SB Bowl every 16 seasons and Win a Super Bowl every 32 seasons. So let’s see.. 16 seasons from 2010 is?.. by Golly George we’re in for quite a treat.

I’d love to hear the reasoning and math behind these figures lol. Historic evidence would strongly indicate that is not true.

 

[Pkrjones]

Statistically an “average” team should compete in a SB Bowl every 16 seasons and Win a Super Bowl every 32 seasons. So let’s see.. 16 seasons from 2010 is?.. by Golly George we’re in for quite a treat.

1966
1967
1996
2010
???

 

[OldSchool101]

I’d love to hear the reasoning and math behind these figures lol. Historic evidence would strongly indicate that is not true.

There are 32 teams. There are 2 Conferences. So probability is eventually you’ll see a SB 1/16 and
win a SB 1/32.
I was being my usual sarcastic but numbers wise it’s accurate.

 

[DoURant]

I get that.

I do, but his point stands. Indiana dumped a bunch of money into their program which was a likely driver to their success.

With NIL there is a lot of money going into college football at almost any college.... just not $370M, which is the joke part of the headline. Glad you knew it was a satire account, a lot of people get snowed over by some of them, not knowing.

 

[OldSchool101]

1966
1967
1996
2010
???

Exactly. Also include in the mix that we appeared in a SB in 1997.
At which time there were 30 teams, up from 26 teams etc. So you’d expect 1/15 on appearance and 1/30 probability on a SB Victory. Ironically, it had been exactly 29 years since that 1967 Super Bowl and 30 years on the appearance. Now there were less teams (16) before expanding to 26 and then 30 etc. as the league grew, so it fuzzies the math. Yet I’d have us a little ahead of schedule because of the back to back start (‘66-67). Yet we’re losing ground quickly.

It’s just coincidence we’re sitting at 16 years from our last logged Super Bowl (2010) in 2026. Statistically we’re due for an appearance as we’re 1 of 16 in Conference and it’s our turn.

We’re bored! Yet that’s the argument I’m taking with Matt LaFleur! You know what they say “Ed Policy is meant to be broken!”

 

[rmontro]

There are 32 teams. There are 2 Conferences. So probability is eventually you’ll see a SB 1/16 and
win a SB 1/32.
I was being my usual sarcastic but numbers wise it’s accurate.

This is the argument against expansion. 32 years is a long time to wait for a Super Bowl win.

 

[tynimiller]

There are 32 teams. There are 2 Conferences. So probability is eventually you’ll see a SB 1/16 and
win a SB 1/32.
I was being my usual sarcastic but numbers wise it’s accurate.

This is not how statistics work when you have data to work off of. You have years the league has existed, number of teams and such to get actual data points and say what the actual average time span is for teams to win a SB.

 

[milani]

Just making sure here... you know Babylon Bee is a satire account, right?

Yes. But it IS funny.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I do, but his point stands. Indiana dumped a bunch of money into their program which was a likely driver to their success.

Well the "good news" for Indiana is this. They didn't dump a ton of money into the program, outside sources did. Mark Cuban being one of the biggest ones. Would that money have come in to the University and been able to be used on bettering the educational aspect of the College? I doubt it.

Further good news for Indiana is that success brings free advertising and more money. So the success of their football team this year will no doubt help them in more ways than just Football.

 

[scooter_1954]

I do, but his point stands. Indiana dumped a bunch of money into their program which was a likely driver to their success.

EVERY team enjoying success today, has dumped a bunch of money into their program. Do you seriously not understand how much NIL money is flowing into (Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia, ad nauseum?) Arch Manning is making MILLIONS in NIL money playing for Texas! Truth be told, no program today can be successful without massive infusions of money. So to argue Indiana won thru some super secret, questionable financial arrangement, just doesn't fly!

 

[mradtke66]

EVERY team enjoying success today, has dumped a bunch of money into their program. Do you seriously not understand how much NIL money is flowing into (Oregon, Ohio State, Georgia, ad nauseum?) Arch Manning is making MILLIONS in NIL money playing for Texas! Truth be told, no program today can be successful without massive infusions of money. So to argue Indiana won thru some super secret, questionable financial arrangement, just doesn't fly!

You misinterpret my idea. They won legitimately. I merely suggest tempering the praise lumped on their head coach. He also did a fine job, probably isn’t a miracle worker. The money dumped into the program did a lot of heavy lifting.

 

[scooter_1954]

You misinterpret my idea. They won legitimately. I merely suggest tempering the praise lumped on their head coach. He also did a fine job, probably isn’t a miracle worker. The money dumped into the program did a lot of heavy lifting.

I understand, but we must concede, EVERY program is buying athletes. We have to acknowledge., until Cignetti arrived, Indiana was the losingest program in Div 1. Since his arrival, they've lost ONLY TWO games. And had the 1st 16-0 season since the 1800s. That's incredibly impressive, by any standard.

But I understand others may be less impressed than I! Hope you're staying warm, it's even freezing here in Texas.

 

[OldSchool101]

This is not how statistics work when you have data to work off of. You have years the league has existed, number of teams and such to get actual data points and say what the actual average time span is for teams to win a SB.

maybe taking things a little to literally. Nothing is going to be perfect because the numbers you are referring to have been a moving target. Even if you did the calculus there’d be a thousand arguments as to how that still doesn’t “fit the bill”.
Yet to get a general idea (actually an idea that’s very close) of the fever if probability to make postseason is not nearly that difficulty.

I suppose you’re arguing we don’t have a 1 in 4 chance of a Division Win?

 

[scooter_1954]

maybe taking things a little to literally. Nothing is going to be perfect because the numbers you are referring to have been a moving target. Even if you did the calculus there’d be a thousand arguments as to how that still doesn’t “fit the bill”.
Yet to get a general idea (actually an idea that’s very close) of the fever if probability to make postseason is not nearly that difficulty.

I suppose you’re arguing we don’t have a 1 in 4 chance of a Division Win?

That last line made me laugh out loud, OldSchool!

 

[OldSchool101]

That last line made me laugh out loud, OldSchool!

You’re welcome. Anytime me being a smart A can help just let me know! It’ll be fun for both of us I actually enjoy it!

These are complicated Math equations. You know. Figuring out probability of a division winner is pretty sophisticated. My mind was going 1:3237432 because of Bart Starr, but I had to break out my unscientific calculator. John Stossel was right,, Give me a Break! lol

 

[rmontro]

maybe taking things a little to literally. Nothing is going to be perfect because the numbers you are referring to have been a moving target. Even if you did the calculus there’d be a thousand arguments as to how that still doesn’t “fit the bill”.
Yet to get a general idea (actually an idea that’s very close) of the fever if probability to make postseason is not nearly that difficulty.

I suppose you’re arguing we don’t have a 1 in 4 chance of a Division Win?

Your math sounds correct to me. Yeah, you can argue that some teams have better football programs than others, and that affects their odds, but looking at it generally, those teams are going to be counterbalanced by the other teams. Which still leaves you with a 1 in 32 chance at winning the Super Bowl.

 

[tynimiller]

maybe taking things a little to literally. Nothing is going to be perfect because the numbers you are referring to have been a moving target. Even if you did the calculus there’d be a thousand arguments as to how that still doesn’t “fit the bill”.
Yet to get a general idea (actually an idea that’s very close) of the fever if probability to make postseason is not nearly that difficulty.

I suppose you’re arguing we don’t have a 1 in 4 chance of a Division Win?

Chance is a different measurement.

 

[rmontro]

Chance is a different measurement.

Let's put it this way: All things being equal, we have a 1 in 4 chance of winning the division. Of course things are never truly equal, but if you try to factor in everything, it not only becomes insanely complicated, the odds also change from week to week and maybe even minute to minute on game day.

 

[milani]

Let's put it this way: All things being equal, we have a 1 in 4 chance of winning the division. Of course things are never truly equal, but if you try to factor in everything, it not only becomes insanely complicated, the odds also change from week to week and maybe even minute to minute on game day.

The division can be up for grabs. It is difficult when you have 4 competitive teams. We could find it being a battle of teams like Tampa and Carolina or one like the NFC West.