Random-Yet-Interesting Fact Of The Day

[El Guapo]

Despite the emergence of Monte, we are still a pass-dominant offense. What I find interesting is that we are beating teams with statistically good pass defenses, and losing to the worst of them.

Win vs Bears - 10th ranked pass defense
Loss vs Falcons - 31st ranked pass defense
Loss vs Colts - 31st ranked pass defense
Loss vs Titans - 30th ranked pass defense
Loss vs Redskins - 15th ranked pass defense
Win vs Eagles - 9th ranked pass defense
Win vs Texans - 5th ranked pass defense
Win vs Seahawks - 9th ranked pass defense

*Note* Rankings as of the week the game was played

 

[HardRightEdge]

Despite the emergence of Monte, we are still a pass-dominant offense. What I find interesting is that we are beating teams with statistically good pass defenses, and losing to the worst of them.

That's an odd way of looking at it. Montgomery's high water mark is 9 carries (weeks 7 and 14). As stated last week, around 10 carries for him looks about right to me. "Still" a passing offense? The Packers in the Rodgers era has been primarily a balanced offense relative to the league, ranking as follows in pass attempts from 2008 - 2015:

9th., 10th., 16th., 14th., 16th., 18th., 20th. and 18th.

This season to date, the Packers are ranked 5th., with Rodgers projected to 618 passes. His previous high water marks were 572 in 2014 and 552 in 2012.

This is the first Rodgers season where you could say this is primarily a passing offense. The causes have been injuries and ineffectiveness at the RB position for the bulk of the season, with the short passing game used as a run game substitute since the Dallas game. A second factor is the Packers have been playing from behind more than has been customary.

Win vs Bears - 10th ranked pass defense
Loss vs Falcons - 31st ranked pass defense
Loss vs Colts - 31st ranked pass defense
Loss vs Titans - 30th ranked pass defense
Loss vs Redskins - 15th ranked pass defense
Win vs Eagles - 9th ranked pass defense
Win vs Texans - 5th ranked pass defense
Win vs Seahawks - 9th ranked pass defense

*Note* Rankings as of the week the game was played

That is interesting and peculiar.

 

[Half Empty]

Fun with numbers. Another way to look at the four losses in that particular stretch is that the opponents scored a minimum of 31 points.

 

[jsheim]

This is a good example for WE vs THEM. Coaches always use the "pat" statement "We'll just take care of doing what we do good"...don't like "pat" statements...but in this case WE are taking care of our business and making THEM lose. The Bad pass defenses just met even poorer Green Bay offense....and the good pass defenses met us playing like we should.

I do like the analysis though.

 

[El Guapo]

That's an odd way of looking at it. Montgomery's high water mark is 9 carries (weeks 7 and 14). As stated last week, around 10 carries for him looks about right to me. "Still" a passing offense? The Packers in the Rodgers era has been primarily a balanced offense relative to the league, ranking as follows in pass attempts from 2008 - 2015:

Relative to the league....that's more peculiar. I just said that we've been a pass dominant team. The number of pass attempts is a poor measure because it only matters when measured against rushing attempts. The percentage of running vs passing plays is the ONLY way to determine it, so I looked it up for you:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct?date=2016-12-15
2016: 63.78% passing plays so far (4th highest in league)
2015: 58.89% passing plays (18th)
2014: 56.36% passing plays (23rd)
2013: 56.83% passing plays (22nd)
2012: 58.80% passing plays (14th)
2011: 60.57% passing plays (8th)
2010: 57.61% passing plays (14th)
2009: 58.70% passing plays (11th)
2008: 56.82% passing plays (16th)

So we have NEVER run more than we have passed in the Aaron Rodgers era. You could make your argument about balanced relative to the rest of the league, but that has nothing to do with what I was pointing out, which is that as a team that passes more than it runs, it surprising the we had more of our success against teams that are better at stopping the pass.

 

[HardRightEdge]

Relative to the league....that's more peculiar. I just said that we've been a pass dominant team. The number of pass attempts is a poor measure because it only matters when measured against rushing attempts. The percentage of running vs passing plays is the ONLY way to determine it, so I looked it up for you:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/passing-play-pct?date=2016-12-15
2016: 63.78% passing plays so far (4th highest in league)
2015: 58.89% passing plays (18th)
2014: 56.36% passing plays (23rd)
2013: 56.83% passing plays (22nd)
2012: 58.80% passing plays (14th)
2011: 60.57% passing plays (8th)
2010: 57.61% passing plays (14th)
2009: 58.70% passing plays (11th)
2008: 56.82% passing plays (16th)

So we have NEVER run more than we have passed in the Aaron Rodgers era. You could make your argument about balanced relative to the rest of the league, but that has nothing to do with what I was pointing out, which is that as a team that passes more than it runs, it surprising the we had more of our success against teams that are better at stopping the pass.

It's all relative. How many teams do run more than they pass? One or two per year. This season it's Dallas and Tennessee.

Your original statement was, "Despite the emergence of Monte, we are still a pass-dominant offense.

To repeat, Montgomery has yet to carry the ball 10 times in a game. I emphasize "still" because as both my numbers and yours illustrate, this season is unique.

 

[El Guapo]

I think that we can just agree here

 

[HardRightEdge]

I think that we can just agree here

Or did you mean, "agree to disagree"?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

Or did you mean, "agree to disagree"?

Are you gonna be a permanent smartass ????.....lol

 

[HardRightEdge]

Are you gonna be a permanent smartass ????.....lol

My "body of work" speaks for itself.

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

My "body of work" speaks for itself.

Oh it certainly does .

 

[HardRightEdge]

Oh it certainly does .

OT, I read something recently that with the warming Atlantic, the cod and haddock are migrating away from the fishing grounds that traditionally serve the British market, with squid taking their place. "Squid and chips"? Thoughts?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

OT, I read something recently that with the warming Atlantic, the cod and haddock are migrating away from the fishing grounds that traditionally serve the British market, with squid taking their place. "Squid and chips"? Thoughts?

I`m not a "Fishy" person, but my wife might be peeved. She`s enjoyed Octopus in Malta a few times, so she should adapt. If we have a Chicken problem I`m screwed.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Bummer.....the way this thread was posted on the main page, I saw "Random-Yet-Interesting Fact Of buggybill2003" I got all excited thinking we were going to share random and interesting tidbits about one of my fav. mods! I guess I will get the ball rolling and say.....Buggy has some great taste in music, but the musicians are a bit dodgy.

 

[Sky King]

Bummer.....the way this thread was posted on the main page, I saw "Random-Yet-Interesting Fact Of buggybill2003" I got all excited thinking we were going to share random and interesting tidbits about one of my fav. mods! I guess I will get the ball rolling and say.....Buggy has some great taste in music, but the musicians are a bit dodgy.

He is a lad from Liverpool after all.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

Fun with numbers. Another way to look at the four losses in that particular stretch is that the opponents scored a minimum of 31 points.

Yes because the secondary and ILBs were missing...

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

He is a lad from Liverpool after all.

Lad is stretching it a bit SK, but yep, ya got me. Liverpool born and bred.

 

[Sky King]

Lad is stretching it a bit SK, but yep, ya got me. Liverpool born and bred.

So, you play the guitar, drums or sing then?

 

[I asked LT to delete my acct]

So, you play the guitar, drums or sing then?

I play the ukulele if that helps ?

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

I play the ukulele if that helps ?

You may have seen Buggy playing in Local Liverpool clubs?

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[I asked LT to delete my acct]

You may have seen Buggy playing in Local Liverpool clubs?

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I just freakin Knew it. Just knew it !!

 

[Sky King]

You may have seen Buggy playing in Local Liverpool clubs?

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Hysterical blindness pandemic on the forum!!!

 

[PackerDNA]

I'm scarred for life.

 

[Sky King]

"Tip-toe through the beer bottles..."