- Aug 26, 2008
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- N. Fort Myers, FL
Stroud was a much better prospect coming out of Ohio State than Love was and was the second overall pick last spring. I believe CJ was a Heisman finalist too. He is super impressive to be sure. Houston has been drafting high for years compared to us. Love will most likely be a slightly better than average starting NFL QB in the end and we can win with that. And if not we'll be in the position to take an elite player like CJ in the future.I agree with this for sure, but Houston brings up another interesting example.
Look at CJ Stroud.
Here’s who he’s throwing to:
WR Nico Collins - 3rd season, 3rd round pick
WR Tank Dell - rookie, 3rd round pick
WR Xavier Hutchinson - rookie, 6th round pick
WR John Metchie III- 2nd season, 2nd round pick (missed entire rookie season due to Leukemia)
WR Robert Woods - 10th season
TE Brevin Jordan - 3rd season, 5th round pick
TE Teagan Quitoriano - 2nd season, 5th round pick
TE Dalton Schultz - 6th season
And in the running game you’ve got Dameon Pierce, Devin Singletary, Dare Ogunbowale, Mike Boone, and Andrew Beck.
So outside of Woods and Schultz it’s not like he has been surrounded with a ton of experienced vets or really much top-level talent at all. It’s mostly inexperienced, unproven, or unimpressive pass-catchers and there’s certainly no Aaron Jones to open things up for him.
At OL they have had injuries to C Scott Quessenberry, OT DJ Scaife, OT Kilian Zierer, OG Kenyon Green, OT Charlie Heck, C Juice Scruggs, C Kendrick Green, and OT Josh Jones. Maybe none of those are Bakh or Jenkins level injuries but suffice to say the OL has been banged up plenty down there too.
So consider Love and Stroud. Both have dealt with injuries and having to repeatedly shuffle around their OL. Both for the most part have a young and inexperienced pass catching corps. Both are largely lacking for an elite game-changer at RB (with Jones out). But with all that factored in, Stroud looks like a front runner for OROY and Love has statistically been near the bottom of just about every significant QB measure.
Is Stroud simply better than Love? Do Green Bay’s injuries impact them that much more meaningfully than Houston’s so as to explain the discrepancy? Is the age/experience deficit in GB really THAT much greater? I don’t think anyone would really argue that Love has looked better than Stroud through 5 games. Is Stroud’s situation really that much more advantageous?
Now don’t get me wrong. I am not trying to slam Love or say he sucks or any of that. I’m sure there’s not any one clear-cut answer here. But I guess what I’m getting at is that… while Love has certainly had some factors working against him, he’s certainly not the other young QB dealing with adversity and it seems like young QBs elsewhere are either handling it better or at least in a situation that has them set up to deal with said adversity better… how much of that comes down to coaching/scheme? I’ve said it elsewhere; Love hasn’t always made things easy for himself but it also seems like on most plays he simply doesn’t have any “easy” option available to him…