Packers vs Eagles Pre Game Thread

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With Hobbs out and Hadden suffering a "minor" hamstring issue in practice last week, the Packers will only have 3 CB's suited up for the game tonight. What time is Asante Samuel Jr. getting here to sign a contract?
 
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The media has been pushing many narratives. Some accurate some not. Strangely mostly anti Packer stuff.

Let’s look at the Eagles post Bye week. I mean isn’t that the claim? They are dominant after Bye week?

In 2023 they KC hit a major slump (for their respective team). They lost 5 games (Broncos, Eagles, Packers, Bills, Raiders) across an 8 game stretch mid season. We might recall The Packers beat KC by 7 points in week 13 etc.
Smack dab in the middle, KC lost to the Eagles in week 11, by 4 points. Eagles trailed the entire game and scored a TD with 6 min remaining. Beating struggling KC team is not what I’d call a “strong post-bye performance”.

In 2024 the Eagles had an early Bye similar to us this year but in week 5. The Eagles played what we now know is the 3-14 Browns. The game was tied 13-13 mid 4th quarter (sound familiar?) Philly scored a TD to take the lead and eventually won 16-20 against one of the lowest seeded teams in the NFL. Cleveland held Barkley to 18 for 47 yards, his season low. This was a Win in the closing minutes of Qtr4 against a 3 Win team.

Now again I’m not arguing that the Eagles shouldn’t have Won or couldn’t have won or will never win. That’s how it gets spun to dismantle my argument when it doesn’t fit the media narrative. I’m arguing specifically that the Eagles are NOT historically dominant in post Bye week performances and furthermore neither opponent was playing particularly well around that time. More bluntly they slithered by struggling teams and were fortunate not to make a last second mistake.

So why all the talk about the Eagles being so Bye week dominant. I’d call them bye week scrappy or slithering or squeaking bye. But dominant? Not
 
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Let’s look at the Eagles post Bye week. I mean isn’t that the claim? They are dominant after Bye week?

If you are directing that at me, I said that they are 4-0 after a bye week under their current HC.

I’m arguing specifically that the Eagles are NOT historically dominant in post Bye week performances and furthermore thus isn’t an excuse

But since you are saying that you don't think that it is relevant, nor are they dominant and you chose 2 games to examine and try and prove your point, should we talk about the fact that they are 36-14-0 after a bye week(including playoffs)?
 

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Anyways, as I tend to ramble, to distill that all down into a more succinct point:

There is nothing wrong with considering the level of opposition you're facing. IMO, the problem is when the "level of opposition" is used to write off a bad performance or to take the focus off of your own level of play. Maybe I am misinterpreting the situation(s) but it seems like in the aftermath of some of these games, we are viewing the opponent as having had greater influence on the outcome of the match than our team. That is what I take issue with.

In any given match we can quibble over how strong (or not) the opponent is, and how well (or not) we played. The discrepancy is over which one had a greater impact on the outcome. And it *seems* like in some of these cases the strength of our opponent is seen as the dominant factor in the final result of these games. Personally, I think our own play is/has been a far greater factor than the play/level of our opponent. That's pretty much the gist of it.
See, you can do it 0 no Cliff's Notes needed. :)
 

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Before the Panthers game, I expressed serious doubt that the Packers would be ready. That game could very well be the worst regular season loss in the past 25 years. I can't think of many worse.

I just don't think the Packers can go man to man against the Eagles in the Trenches. A bounce back game is urgent. If the Eagles control the LOS and beat the Packers in Lambeau, I would see it as a sign the team is unraveling. The naysayers would pretend that two straight home losses are meaningless.

I think this is a must game tonight. The team needs to play fast and with urgency. We'll know real soon.
 

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Before the Panthers game, I expressed serious doubt that the Packers would be ready. That game could very well be the worst regular season loss in the past 25 years. I can't think of many worse.

I just don't think the Packers can go man to man against the Eagles in the Trenches. A bounce back game is urgent. If the Eagles control the LOS and beat the Packers in Lambeau, I would see it as a sign the team is unraveling. The naysayers would pretend that two straight home losses are meaningless.

I think this is a must game tonight. The team needs to play fast and with urgency. We'll know real soon.
imho it's never over this early when you have won more than you've lost. But I agree it's important. Would like to have the turnover gods to start showing up
 

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Before the Panthers game, I expressed serious doubt that the Packers would be ready. That game could very well be the worst regular season loss in the past 25 years. I can't think of many worse.

I just don't think the Packers can go man to man against the Eagles in the Trenches. A bounce back game is urgent. If the Eagles control the LOS and beat the Packers in Lambeau, I would see it as a sign the team is unraveling. The naysayers would pretend that two straight home losses are meaningless.

I think this is a must game tonight. The team needs to play fast and with urgency. We'll know real soon.
Unfortunately I have to agree. Two losses in a row won’t sink a season and in a vacuum losing to a good team - the defending champs at that - isn’t the worst thing in the world (well, at least if it’s a respectable one). But I would take it as a very bad sign overall. It’s not make or break and you don’t win trophies in November but I think our postseason aspirations would face a serious reality check if we can’t show that we can bounce back tonight.
 

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What I'm getting at is the Panthers beat the Packers because they controlled the LOS. I think the Eagles will do that tonight. You don't go very far in the playoffs if you even get there and then get manhandled in the trenches. It may be November, but a poor showing tonight bodes very poorly for the ability to win tough playoff games because that's where games are won and lost.
 

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Before the Panthers game, I expressed serious doubt that the Packers would be ready. That game could very well be the worst regular season loss in the past 25 years. I can't think of many worse.
It was bad, allright.


I just don't think the Packers can go man to man against the Eagles in the Trenches. A bounce back game is urgent. If the Eagles control the LOS and beat the Packers in Lambeau, I would see it as a sign the team is unraveling. The naysayers would pretend that two straight home losses are meaningless.
Ugh, that reminds me of how we finished our season last year. Two straight home losses to division rivals, followed by a playoff loss to these same Eagles.
 

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Take Love out! Put Malik in.....dead serious!
Love looks like hes scared.

Thank God this is Lafluers last season in GB! MAN HE BLOWS!!!!
 

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Take Love out! Put Malik in.....dead serious!
Love looks like hes scared.

Thank God this is Lafluers last season in GB! MAN HE BLOWS!!!!
LaFluer started out so promising with three straight division titles and three straight 13 win seasons.
 

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