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Packers re-sign Ahman Green

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  1. longtimefan

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  2. Quientus

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    Hmmm ... Ahman Green brings back some fond memories ... - During his "prime" that man was an absolute Beast ... however he seems highly injury-prone ... - So I'm not sure if this is a sign of positive thinking or just showing how desperate the organisation is atm ?

    Perhaps this will entice Grant to be even more competitive ?
     
  3. 3irty1

    3irty1 Fear the Dreads!

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    Yo I would be sooo happy if Green came back. Even if he can't run better than grant (even though i think a paraplegic could), atleast Green gave us a lot of smiles in his prime. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
     
  4. DILLIGAFF

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    Green can run the screen plays and catch the ball out of the back field and knows how to get open in the short passing game. Green may fit our O-line needs better than Grant Wynn, and Jackson.

    I think the short passing game of our RBs and the screen plays has been a source of our sack problem. 2 or 3 screen plays a game can cool off a pass rush. A running back who can catch the ball can help A-rod avoid a sack.
     
  5. Quientus

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    Certainly right on that one ... however ... question remains ... will Rodgers use him because screen plays are kinda like "check downs" ... >.< and Rodgers so far has been alarmingly (unwilling?) or unaware of those ...
     
  6. PackersRS

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    Both would be a tremenduous upgrade as a 3rd down backer than what we have.
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    And are you kidding me about RODGERS using screen plays? You know that's a call the coaches make, right? Does it need to be about Rodgers all the time? Man, talk about agenda...

    BTW, the screen pass has been terrible ever since MM came aboard. With Favre. Favre can't throw a screen pass? He can. It's just the backs we had couldn't run a good screen and the lineman couldn't play in space...

    We should be calling more trick plays, like screens, but don't expect it to be better just because Green or Rhodes are on the team. But they sure will help on 3rd downs, I'll tell you that!
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    P.S.: I think it was Greg Bedard who brought in the idea that Green is just finished, and that we would only be only working him out so other teams might create some interest in him. It would only be a nice gesture, given his past with the organization.
     
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    Now all we need is to work out Jerry Kramer, Forrest Gregg and Gale Gillingham to improve the o-line.
     
  8. Murgen

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    Could they be any worse than Baby Swiss? Should bring em in and have em teach the line how to play the position. Do we even have an O-line coach? Sure doesn't seem like it.
     
  9. A12ROD903

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    Not sure how I feel about this....
     
  10. bad93ex

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    I think both backs could provide a positive addition to the lineup.
     
  11. Hauschild

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  12. 3irty1

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    How is this frightening? Grant has to be the WORST back in the NFL. He trips over the line of scrimmage, falls if somebody pokes him, and plays half the game on his back with the ball coming out of his hands. GIVE ME GREEN!
     
  13. Hauschild

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    It is frightening not because I do not respect Green - I loved that man!!! But, it is because TT has now resigned himself to second-guessing his abilities to evaluate talent. He refused years ago to re-sign Green and now finds himself considering signing a back that is finished. Also, he refused to keep Tauscher on the squad until he new exactly where he stood with his boys.

    Basically, it sends pretty feeble messages to me. The guys he's let go - he is not replacing them with better players a la Green, Tauscher, Sharper, etc.
     
  14. 3irty1

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    Haven't we all been second guessing his abilities to evaluate players? I think this is a good sign, that he's willing to accept he might have messed up, and is now trying to correct it.

    It would be nice to get some FRESH talent in, cause I agree Green is "finished" or at least used up. Tausher had an injury that wouldn't allow him to play or practice until atleast October, so there was no use on using a roster spot on him until October, which gave ample time to try and find a replacment as well.

    Overall I'm just happy to see SOME interest in changing our running game, because this could ultimatley take a lot of coverage off of Jennings and Driver, and open up some BIIIIIG plays :D :D
     
  15. PackersRS

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    Just one thing. He declined to sign Green as a starter, for starter money. Which was a GREAT decision. Now they're considering him as a 3rd down back for 3rd down money.
     
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    ^ STILL HAPPY.

    We should be passing 80% of the time on first and second downs anyway.
     
  17. Hauschild

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    True, but you've fallen into the trap yet again - putting the salary cap in the stratosphere like it is the ONLY variable in the equation to consider.

    I think most average Joe's realized Green's best days were behind him, but why do you and TT seem to prize salary cap space above talent? If Green wasn't good enough then, why is he good enough now? Because he's much cheaper - even though his legs and body are far worse??? See what I am getting at??? Here are some examples of the point I am trying to make: In 5 years, TT still has not found consistent replacements for:
    -Tauscher
    -Clifton
    -Sharper (Collins and Bigby are not Sharper, so stop.)
    -Green
    -Franks (Good blocker and consistent stats when healthy)
    -Flanagan (Hey, our running game simply hasn't been the same.)

    These just happen to be the 5 of the most important positions on a football team. So, would you be willing to have given up around 10-20 million over the past 5 years to have some fairly long-term solutions to these positions???
     
  18. longtimefan

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    I take it Hauschild doesn't read Andrew Brand's blog on nationalfootballpost.com

    Andrew was in charge of getting Green to stay...

    Pay close attention to this..

    Andrew said they were were at $ 5 million a year but when Texas went to $8 mill, the Packers went up to $ 7 mill

    So yeah its all Teds fault..Ted does things wrong, but when people such as hauschild basing opinions on lies, it makes you look ignorant.

    Show us again hauschild how Ted was all to blame here? Even though Andrew even agreed that the price was way to high?


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  19. Hauschild

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    You will never see the big picture because you refuse to accept the shortcomings of the Green Bay Packers. And, until you do, you will be in a constant, painful state of denial.
     
  20. longtimefan

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    I know exactly what your issue is, but when a rb that was already 30 and had been injured to the point of not playing for lot of games the past two years wants $ 8 mill a year to stay.... I say good bye and let him walk..I would agree with that each and every time..

    Ted does need to figure out who he has to get to replace him and judge that talent right..I will agree with that too..

    But if your saying Green deserved $ 8 million a year I say your not as smart as we think
     
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    Wait...your pissed that now Ted wants to look at him?

    So what LOL

    As someone said if he is just good enough for a 3rd down back and will only be 800K, whats the difference? If they need or want someone to replace Wynn, wouldnt Green or Rhodes be a good option for that?
     
  22. Hauschild

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    Yeah, that's kinda my point. Why are we wasting time arguing over a "3rd down back" and again, who cares how much or little it costs (means absolutely nothing to winning games)??? Good Lord - haven't we all (emphasis on Gray Goose) bigger fish to fry???
     
  23. longtimefan

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    do you think there should be someone there already IN PLACE and they should have to bring in a a RB?

    Jason Wilde on milwaukee espn today said it was more to offer relief on the kick off return..

    I think that is what he said, I was listening to it online and was walking out of the room as he was saying it..Not sure how it helps to have those two guys on kick off returns tho..

    Team is worried that injuries are adding up on that end and want more insurance
     
  24. Jess

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    Welcome Back, Ahman Green!

    Sportsradio 107.5 out of GB is reporting that we signed him. Apparently it's on the news too.

    I don't really know why he's here, but for some odd reason I feel good about it.
     
  25. PackersRS

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    Oh yeah, baby! Him with one leg is better than DeShawn Wynn. Don't know if he's able to start, though.
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    Of course, we could've kept Tyrell Sutton in the first place...
     

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