Jordy opens up the field a bit giving them a true threat down the field and with much more precise route running. It also puts Cobb in the slot where he belongs all the time which would help on heavy rush/blitz packages for someone to run hot routes. It may solve a small piece of the offensive woes but there are still a ton of question marks.Is this all because we lost Jordy or would we have problems even if Jordy was catching passes this season?
I thought the same about Jordy. What if he isn't the same but his work dynamic is so great I think he will get himself back to where he was...It's definitely affected the offense, no one knows how much. That would be the magic answer. No doubt our WR's have been sub-par at best this year, but there are other problems. The Oline hasn't played well, and Rodgers has been a little off.
What concerns me for the future is that we have Jordy coming back off an ACL injury next year at age 31. Is he going to be the same as he has been? Will he have lost speed? He might not be as dynamic anymore, and that would be disastrous since we clearly don't have anyone that can step up to the plate, as this year has shown.
I thought the same about Jordy. What if he isn't the same but his work dynamic is so great I think he will get himself back to where he was...
But be in Zone instead of man coverageNone, even with Jordy on the field if he is the only reliable receive be doubled all the time because Defenses would know the rest of the the receivers would be no threat, because of issues like not getting open, dropping passes, etc
Packers thought they had the answer with JJ but completely dropped the ball on the other receivers, Quarrels is back and maybe he can get primed to play a role in the playoffs..But be in Zone instead of man coverage
If TT and the Packers stand pat on this offense in the off season under the assumption that all it lacks is Jordy, it is going to be a long 2016 Season. O-line, TE and WR all need to be addressed IMO.
There needs to be a complete overhaul on this team from a coaching standpoint. Look how quickly things turned around for the Vikings, even with average QB production.In other words Rodgers and the tandem of Lacy/Starks are solid? I'm not so sure... Starks is turning the Big three-oh, Lacey has underwhelmed this year, what kind of contract does GB offer him?? We just tied up a TON of money in a tackle and WR who responded with disapponting years....and the best hope seems to be that a 31 yo WR coming off a major knee injury might fix things. Gotta be smart-ER....and lucky....
Is this all because we lost Jordy or would we have problems even if Jordy was catching passes this season?
I think it's mostly our incredibly banged up OL and Lacy being almost worthless running the ball except for 3 games this year. Nobody respects Eddie running the ball anymore so they don't put extra guys in the box which frees them up to devote additional coverage to our depleted WRs.
Cobb isn't fast enough or big enough to be THE man. Jones isn't what he once was. Adams looks like Boykin 2.0 and nobody else gets a real shot to show what they can do.
It is a part of it but certainly not the sole reason. Jordy draws a lot of double coverage and catches balls others cannot. He also can stretch the field. But as a great receiving corps turns over little by little it grows weaker. Five years ago Nelson was only one of five. Now he is the cream of the crop. Rodgers was so spoiled with great receiving talent. Much more than Favre. In 2011 Jennings was our big gun followed by Finley and Driver. And then Jones and Cobb. Nelson could have a 2-3 week injury and it did not phase the offense. Being able to spread the ball made it very ******* defenses. But as you can see after great receivers depart due to age or injury or free agency they are hard to replace with equal talent. That is why I admire Brady for being able to continue that offense when his talent leaves.Is this all because we lost Jordy or would we have problems even if Jordy was catching passes this season?
Let's not pretend he's the same QB without Gronk or Moss. He's had many a season with TD/INT ratios far below what Rodgers has posted this year.It is a part of it but certainly not the sole reason. Jordy draws a lot of double coverage and catches balls others cannot. He also can stretch the field. But as a great receiving corps turns over little by little it grows weaker. Five years ago Nelson was only one of five. Now he is the cream of the crop. Rodgers was so spoiled with great receiving talent. Much more than Favre. In 2011 Jennings was our big gun followed by Finley and Driver. And then Jones and Cobb. Nelson could have a 2-3 week injury and it did not phase the offense. Being able to spread the ball made it very ******* defenses. But as you can see after great receivers depart due to age or injury or free agency they are hard to replace with equal talent. That is why I admire Brady for being able to continue that offense when his talent leaves.
Let's not pretend he's the same QB without Gronk or Moss. He's had many a season with TD/INT ratios far below what Rodgers has posted this year.
Let's not pretend he's the same QB without Gronk or Moss. He's had many a season with TD/INT ratios far below what Rodgers has posted this year.
Because Brady's is exponentially better with a top of the class receiver on the field. Saying the offense doesn't falter at all without them is ridiculous.Was this posted to the right thread? Seems obviously about Brady, but I don't see from where.
In any case, even without Moss (so let's discard the '07-'09 seasons, which eliminates a SB loss and two non-appearances), he's done pretty well. And, although I now see Un4GivN addressed it already, I can't believe you're going with the TD/Int ratio as a metric.