what would you trade for Richard Sherman?

[Mondio]

or they're just saying it's him that wants out, to try and cover their own reasons for wanting him out of town. Which would drive down the offerings if teams knew they wanted him out. Regardless of the reasons he's up for trade maybe, I do think there are plenty of reasons to not give a quality player and a 1st rounder to make a deal.

 

[DMANDTM]

Sherman, House, Burnett, and Dix would be one of the best secondaries in the NFL. I would definitely give a 1st round, Cobb, and Rollins or a late round pick if necessary.

 

[brandon2348]

There back up QB just got in trouble "Boykin".

They might take Cobb and Hundley.

 

[brandon2348]

or they're just saying it's him that wants out, to try and cover their own reasons for wanting him out of town. Which would drive down the offerings if teams knew they wanted him out. Regardless of the reasons he's up for trade maybe, I do think there are plenty of reasons to not give a quality player and a 1st rounder to make a deal.

Are you afraid to win a Super Bowl? I mean is there something bad that will happen to you if the Packers win a Super Bowl?

 

[McKnowledge]

Enlighten me please. When doing so, also remember the reverse of your logic, what some consider "high character" can be different than another and doesn't always equate to being a good teammate.

Enlighten yourself. There are several articles providing clarity as to why Sherman had arguments with the coaching staff at one point or the other. Furthermore, how does anyone that has high character not equate to being a good teammate?

#dontbecontriarianwithoutacause

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Enlighten yourself. There are several articles providing clarity as to why Sherman had arguments with the coaching staff at one point or the other. Furthermore, how does anyone that has high character not equate to being a good teammate?

#dontbecontriarianwithoutacause

It's actually spelled "contrarian"....but I am sure that you knew that.

I've read plenty about Sherman's dust-ups on and off the field to draw my own conclusions, I was hoping you would provide some clarity as to how you and others view these dust-ups as being a positive thing.

You might also want to reread what I wrote....."high character" is subjective and just because you think someone has a high character, it doesn't always translate to that person being a great teammate.

 

[McKnowledge]

It's actually spelled "contrarian"....but I am sure that you knew that.

I've read plenty about Sherman's dust-ups on and off the field to draw my own conclusions, I was hoping you would provide some clarity as to how you and others view these dust-ups as being a positive thing.

You might also want to reread what I wrote....."high character" is subjective and just because you think someone has a high character, it doesn't always translate to that person being a great teammate.

Lol. Feelings. Anyways, save the misspelling, "high character" as you initiated the term, isn't subjective, either you have it or you don't. Character entails integrity. I can't see anyone arguing that a person of authentic integrity, isn't a good/great teammate. Richard Sherman, strikes me as a decisive, insightful player, that has a passion for playing the game at a high level. When a coach or coordinator is calling bonehead plays, he as player has a right to voice his opinion. Perhaps, some people may have a problem with the time and place of him airing his grievances, but that's probably attributed to the militaristic tone of football in general. You follow the coaches' lead no matter the idiocy of their ways from time to time. The positive of these interactions, to me, is that Sherman is demanding not only of himself, his teammates; but also his coaches and the organization as whole. In my opinion, a smart football player, should view himself as an investment. He should maximize profits, which wining football games will contribute to. When making an investment, you want all the possible tools to put you in the best position to succeed. The calls Pete Carroll makes continuously and the assignments D coordinator Kris Richard made, frustrated Sherman, and he lost his cool. I view this as a positive, because he gives a damn. Sherman as a No.1 corner for GB, I would definitely make that happen. He would instantly put GB's defense on notice. Pressure either bursts pipes or makes diamonds, I think Sherman with the Packers' D would shine.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Lol. Feelings. Anyways, save the misspelling, "high character" as you initiated the term, isn't subjective, either you have it or you don't. Character entails integrity. I can't see anyone arguing that a person of authentic integrity, isn't a good/great teammate. Richard Sherman, strikes me as a decisive, insightful player, that has a passion for playing the game at a high level. When a coach or coordinator is calling bonehead plays, he as player has a right to voice his opinion. Perhaps, some people may have a problem with the time and place of him airing his grievances, but that's probably attributed to the militaristic tone of football in general. You follow the coaches' lead no matter the idiocy of their ways from time to time. The positive of these interactions, to me, is that Sherman is demanding not only of himself, his teammates; but also his coaches and the organization as whole. In my opinion, a smart football player, should view himself as an investment. He should maximize profits, which wining football games will contribute to. When making an investment, you want all the possible tools to put you in the best position to succeed. The calls Pete Carroll makes continuously and the assignments D coordinator Kris Richard made, frustrated Sherman, and he lost his cool. I view this as a positive, because he gives a damn. Sherman as a No.1 corner for GB, I would definitely make that happen. He would instantly put GB's defense on notice. Pressure either bursts pipes or makes diamonds, I think Sherman with the Packers' D would shine.

Again, you are saying Richard Sherman has high character, your opinion, subjective. You are then making the jump to that making him a great teammate, again subjective. I can make the same jump and say he could be viewed as a distraction or a disruption to the coaches, my subjective opinion and one that the Packers would want to consider. The Packers decided to get rid of Josh Sitton. A guy teammates viewed as a great guy, but was rumored to have become a locker room distraction due to his unhappiness about his contract. Would Sherman fit in with his character, high or not?

Doug Baldwin, who has been playing with Sherman since college (Stanford) said this about him:

"I say that Sherm’s greatest asset can also be his greatest weakness," Baldwin said. "He’s very smart. And sometimes he thinks he’s smarter than he is. And I have no issues, qualms saying that, because I’ll say that to his face. I love him to death because at times he is very considerate and very thoughtful, but other times he lets his pride get in the way"..."There’s times when it can become a distraction," Baldwin said. "But we have guys on our team who are mature enough to know when to take it over the line and when to back off. And sometimes Sherm is the main one who does that because we get frustrated at times..."

Again, it doesn't matter what you or I think about Richard Sherman's character or abilities and how they would fit in with the Packers, you find it a big plus, I see it as at least a red flag to look at closely. I can guarantee you it is something the Packers would no doubt weigh in making a decision.

 

[McKnowledge]

Again, you are saying Richard Sherman has high character, your opinion, subjective. You are then making the jump to that making him a great teammate, again subjective. I can make the same jump and say he could be viewed as a distraction or a disruption to the coaches, my subjective opinion and one that the Packers would want to consider. The Packers decided to get rid of Josh Sitton. A guy teammates viewed as a great guy, but was rumored to have become a locker room distraction due to his unhappiness about his contract. Would Sherman fit in with his character, high or not?

Doug Baldwin, who has been playing with Sherman since college (Stanford) said this about him:

"I say that Sherm’s greatest asset can also be his greatest weakness," Baldwin said. "He’s very smart. And sometimes he thinks he’s smarter than he is. And I have no issues, qualms saying that, because I’ll say that to his face. I love him to death because at times he is very considerate and very thoughtful, but other times he lets his pride get in the way"..."There’s times when it can become a distraction," Baldwin said. "But we have guys on our team who are mature enough to know when to take it over the line and when to back off. And sometimes Sherm is the main one who does that because we get frustrated at times..."

Again, it doesn't matter what you or I think about Richard Sherman's character or abilities and how they would fit in with the Packers, you find it a big plus, I see it as at least a red flag to look at closely. I can guarantee you it is something the Packers would no doubt weigh in making a decision.

I made no jump in calling Richard Sherman a good/great teammate. That, Pokerbrat2000, would be subjective. Let's stay on topic. I don't care about Josh Sitton, he's irrelevant to this thread. Also, Doug Baldwin who has been Sherman's teammate for nearly a decade, specifically states he has love and respect for him. He must be a good or great teammate. Baldwin is well respected in Seattle. He knows Sherman very well, warts and all. He never called Sherman a distraction, he specifically states what Sherman does can become a distraction. The only thing that would give credence to the Packers have any qualms on pursuing Sherman, is whether or not this current Packer's team has enough maturity in the locker room, to offset any potential "distractions". I believe, this Packer's team is mature enough, on both sides of the ball, to take on Sherman.

 

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[brandon2348]

Lol. Feelings. Anyways, save the misspelling, "high character" as you initiated the term, isn't subjective, either you have it or you don't. Character entails integrity. I can't see anyone arguing that a person of authentic integrity, isn't a good/great teammate. Richard Sherman, strikes me as a decisive, insightful player, that has a passion for playing the game at a high level. When a coach or coordinator is calling bonehead plays, he as player has a right to voice his opinion. Perhaps, some people may have a problem with the time and place of him airing his grievances, but that's probably attributed to the militaristic tone of football in general. You follow the coaches' lead no matter the idiocy of their ways from time to time. The positive of these interactions, to me, is that Sherman is demanding not only of himself, his teammates; but also his coaches and the organization as whole. In my opinion, a smart football player, should view himself as an investment. He should maximize profits, which wining football games will contribute to. When making an investment, you want all the possible tools to put you in the best position to succeed. The calls Pete Carroll makes continuously and the assignments D coordinator Kris Richard made, frustrated Sherman, and he lost his cool. I view this as a positive, because he gives a damn. Sherman as a No.1 corner for GB, I would definitely make that happen. He would instantly put GB's defense on notice. Pressure either bursts pipes or makes diamonds, I think Sherman with the Packers' D would shine.

As Richard Sherman would say, "Iron sharpens Iron".

This secondary needs some iron on the outside. Sherman knows how to play physical outside. He also knows how to take up space and create very small passing windows.

He would definitely change the whole complexion of the secondary.

 

[Mondio]

Are you afraid to win a Super Bowl? I mean is there something bad that will happen to you if the Packers win a Super Bowl?

Obviously?

 

[lambeaulambo]

Well...what we need is an o lineman to trade for Sherman. This IS the player IMO that this team needs: vet, crafty, talented, leader. This is what the team needs. seriously consider trading Clay for him even up. Hawks wont do it. How about Martinez/Cobb? Bulaga and a 3rd? TT needs to pull the damn trigger as this secondary is a turnstile.

 

[Pokerbrat2000]

Sherman has high character.

Furthermore, how does anyone that has high character not equate to being a good teammate?
#dontbecontriarianwithoutacause

I made no jump in calling Richard Sherman a good/great teammate. That, Pokerbrat2000, would be subjective.

Let me know when you decide what you really mean.

 

[swhitset]

Geez, you just can't give credit to other good teams. The Patriots are lucky, the Seahawks get away with mugging receivers, blah, blah, blah.

Yet somehow Thompson is the greatest general manager in the history of the game in your opinion.

I think it is pretty well accepted that the Seahawks d backs have been more than pushing the boundaries for the past several years when it comes to getting too physical with receivers.

 

[fistfullofbeer]

Has TT ever traded for a big name player before?

 

[PackerFanLV]

I wouldnt give a 1st round for sherman NO WAY. I dont think you guys realize how important a first round pick is. Ill give up clay mathews and cobb for sherman.

 

[Poppa San]

I wouldnt give a 1st round for sherman NO WAY. I dont think you guys realize how important a first round pick is. Ill give up clay mathews and cobb for sherman.

Randall, Hawk, Sherrod, Harrell ring a bell?

 

[Deleted member 6794]

I have never seen the phrase Thompson is the greatest GM in history ever written on this forum.

While the phrase hasn't been used on the forum Mondio and you for sure act in a way that make me believe that's your opinion about him.

With a 9 mil cap hit and Adams, Linsley,Burnett, Dix and Rodgers still to get paid, I'd say the chances of this are slim to none.

Even if the Packers decide to extend Rodgers' contract early I don't expect his cap hit to significantly increase, possibly even decrease, over the next few years.

While exploring the possibility of the Miami Dolphins trading for Sherman, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald was told by a NFL source that the Seahawks are asking for “a very good player plus a high draft pick.”

hmmmmm.....Clay and a second rounder?

https://www.all22.com/seattle-seaha...de-talks-seattle-seahawks-asking-kings-ransom

It seems the Seahawks are looking for a good, young player with a decent contract in return though.

Then we still need 2 or 3 quality pass rushers. Makes no sense to give up the house for a system guy imo.

Geez, Sherman is an elite cornerback who would excel in every scheme. I agree it doesn't make sense to give up a pass rusher for him as the Packers lack depth at outside linebacker though.

I wouldn't. Matthews can still be elite. We need a pass rush.

That might be true but unfortunately Matthews hasn't been elite for quite some time.

Regardless of the reasons he's up for trade maybe, I do think there are plenty of reasons to not give a quality player and a 1st rounder to make a deal.

I would be interested in you listing only a single reasonable one.

Sherman, House, Burnett, and Dix would be one of the best secondaries in the NFL. I would definitely give a 1st round, Cobb, and Rollins or a late round pick if necessary.

Once again, the Seahawks are reportedly looking for a player with a reasonable contract in return. Cobb doesn't meet this criteria. In addition I'm absolutely opposed to trading him.

Richard Sherman, strikes me as a decisive, insightful player, that has a passion for playing the game at a high level. When a coach or coordinator is calling bonehead plays, he as player has a right to voice his opinion. Perhaps, some people may have a problem with the time and place of him airing his grievances, but that's probably attributed to the militaristic tone of football in general. You follow the coaches' lead no matter the idiocy of their ways from time to time. The positive of these interactions, to me, is that Sherman is demanding not only of himself, his teammates; but also his coaches and the organization as whole. The calls Pete Carroll makes continuously and the assignments D coordinator Kris Richard made, frustrated Sherman, and he lost his cool. I view this as a positive, because he gives a damn.

You might want to ask Woodson and Sitton how criticizing the Packers coaching staff has worked out for them.

I think it is pretty well accepted that the Seahawks d backs have been more than pushing the boundaries for the past several years when it comes to getting too physical with receivers.

I don't care that it's widely accepted by whining fans. Do you have any credible source considering it a fact that the Seahawks get away with mugging receivers more often than other teams???

I wouldnt give a 1st round for sherman NO WAY. I dont think you guys realize how important a first round pick is.

I would absolutely be fine with trading a first round pick for Sherman as he would immediately upgrade the Packers secondary while the impact of a first round pick is completely uncertain. Just think about the performance of Damarious Randall so far.

 

[ls1bob]

I don't like Sherman's antics sometimes,but he is a hell of CB. If TT is true to his word and wants to win now I think he should give up a 1st rounder to do it. Drafting is a crap shoot,and a rookie will have to learn Capers complex defensive schemes WITHOUT someone like Shields to help mentor him and cover up his mistakes. 3-4 years later,the rookie may be playing well,get a contract from another team and GONE. Insert Sherman now and instantly the defense is better and hopefully moving towards another Super Bowl win.

 

[Deleted member 6794]

If TT is true to his word and wants to win now I think he should give up a 1st rounder to do it.

While others within the Packers organization have mentioned the need to win now or going all-in I don't remember Thompson saying something like it.

 

[ls1bob]

While others within the Packers organization have mentioned the need to win now or going all-in I don't remember Thompson saying something like it.

Excuse me then. Old age plays tricks on us sometimes

 

[Deleted member 6794]

Excuse me then. Old age plays tricks on us sometimes

It's possible I missed or forgot about Thompson mentioning something about it.

I agree with the rest of your post though.

 

[Mondio]

I think it is pretty well accepted that the Seahawks d backs have been more than pushing the boundaries for the past several years when it comes to getting too physical with receivers.

i've said it a few times before, one of the caveats of making this trade would be I would need to be assured that officials would allow the same latitude in GB as they allow Sherman in Seattle to "be physical" with receivers or no deal. We don't need 7 PI flags a game for 10 million dollars

 

[brandon2348]

Richard Sherman on board with trade only if he is sent to a contender (Miami Herald) (via https://br.app.link/get-the-app ) http://teamstre.am/2o57Fyz

Go get em Ted.