At least they make you one dimensional. Our defense can do neither. A good coach could easily turn that team into a 11 win team.
uh huh. sure. Wanna buy a bridge?
At least they make you one dimensional. Our defense can do neither. A good coach could easily turn that team into a 11 win team.
Something to consider when analyzing what kind of job TT has done:
That the Saints already are projected to be about $17 million over next year’s cap only adds to the potential headaches here. Factor in a franchise tag, even near the 2013 TE price of approximately $6 million, and the Saints’ wallet will be even more overstuffed.
Meanwhile, as always, the Packers have cap space - even after signing the likes of Clay and Rodgers - to resign Shields, EDS, etc. Will we have enough leftover to sign other FA's? Probably not. But, we also don't need to have a fire-sale and cut a bunch of players.
TT may be cheap. But he doesn't mortgage the teams future cap for a single year. I think that's wise and important for long term success. How he manages the cap space in signing players is a different debate - i.e. propensity to sign his own players (Hawk, B. Jones, Burnett) rather than looking elsewhere.
Signing guys like Bernard Pollard, Everson Griffen, Vincent Rey don't mortgage any future.Maybe the question is, would Packer fans rather mortgage the future for a better shot at one Superbowl, or win the division and get in the playoffs every year and see what happens?
That's a fair question, and hopefully you would agree that there is no correct answer. My preference is certainly to remain a contender every year, but... there is evidence that having a string of losing years can add up to a juggernaut of a team- if not just for a couple of years. SF, for example. They had some lean seasons recently. Then... boom, loaded with OL and DL high first rounders, they finally found a QB with some talent and leadership and it's off to the races.
Our OL and DL is loaded with lower pedigree talent. Tough to find gems from draft spots 25+ all the time.
Want and expect are two different conceptsRemember we got fans here who don't even expect a 1st rounder to have any immediate impact.
True, but we can't get seem to get past the first round nowadays.
+1 Agree!YEP! Said it a million times now. Us fans want Superbowl wins every year or we complain about something that's broke or we have to blame somebody. This Packers just won another division crown. I'd like to see some little changes like we talked about there's no reason to think we need to blow things up.
This is a bigger factor than most fans realize....and to work of both of those posts, targeting those reasonable free agents and actually landing them are two different things. Every GM is trying to get the "bargain" player. How much you offer them matters. Your system and coaches matter. Your city and amenities, or lack thereof, affect whether a player signs. TT went after Moss but wouldn't over-reach on price. He put the team ahead of a player as he should, and that roiled Favre. GMs make the tough calls
These come across as really general. "stop wiffing on defensive picks",
Firing the S&C staff sounds tough and great but they are well regarded around the league, how many injuries do you point a finger at them for?
Any free agent wont help. I had a gf once that would just shop for the sake of shopping, because it made her feel better I guess. Guess what, when she didnt have a plan she came back with alot of junk.
All I've read are about the horrible contracts of Burnett and Jones. Well if those are the bad contracts TT gives out, we're not in bad shape.
We only owe Burnett 6.5 mil more guaranteed. That's 17th among safeties and there's still hope he turns into a solid player.
We only owe Brad Jones 2 mil more. Not that big a deal.
Burnett was a very good player in 2012...That is why he was awarded...
When your safeties are ranked #63 and #67 respectively (ProFootballFocus) and have combined for zero picks in 17 games (first time in half a century), any free agent safety could help. I would prefer a good one, but any average veteran could help back there.
Exactly. I don't think his contract is some huge overpayment of a bad player.
tried real hard to find PFF ranking of safeties, no luck
May of 2012 athlon had Burnett at #10
http://athlonsports.com/nfl/2012-nfl-fantasy-football-rankings-defensive-backs
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1444324-br-nfl-1000-2013-top-75-safeties/page/11
MD Jennings #45 . Burnett #20
So at start of the year seems nationally people on board with Burnett..
No, if I read right, they can cut him with a very low cap hit, around 6 mill?
To work off Amish's post, even if we sign Byrd, there is no guarantee he'd bump up our chance of SB success that much. How'd Nnamdi Asomgha (sp???) signing fare for the Pats? Or Julius Peppers in Chicago? And to his excellent point, signing a guy like Byrd basically means we can say goodbye to Shields, James Jones, Cobb (or Jordy) ... It comes with a stiff price for the Packers to spend big in FA.
Frank's approach is the most logical. Try to find some good bargains without risking future cap space. The problem is that this approach has rarely happened with TT and free agents have been getting overpaid in recent years. So, as much as I'd love Griffen, I have very little hope that'll happen.
uh huh. sure. Wanna buy a bridge?