Studs n duds Lions 1st game

[Heyjoe4]

We have a real challenge Thursday night with Daniels at QB. The guy is a better runner than passer, and we need to constantly work on containment on the outside. Lane integrity on pass rushes will also be a key issue because he will find seams on broken plays where he can turn it into an effective run.

Just my opinion but because of matchups, I think Washington is a tougher game than what the Lions were even on paper.

If this were last year's D, the Edge guys would play more contain. With Parsons, that may change to rushing Daniels more, and put a spy on him. I don't think the Commanders are better than the Lions - but MLF and Hafley will have to find a way to keep Daniels in the pocket and force him to get rid of the ball earlier than he'd like.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I mean the 35 Whelen is a pretty potent and special caliber...

The "35" Whelan? What do you mean?

 

[tynimiller]

The "35" Whelan? What do you mean?

The 35 Whelen is a powerful medium bore rifle cartridge. Born out of a necked up 30-06 to accept a bullet diameter of .358 it has existed since 1922.

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[milani]

And the offensive game plan should involve a fast start and a continuation of pushing the ball downfield and scoring throughout the game. 2H game plan was too conservative for me. Lions dominated TOP, and that wears out a D. Seemed like there were a few 3-and-out series in 2H.

I don't think MLF was "afraid" the Lions would catch up, actually the opposite. He was just too conservative after such a dominant 1H. That said, the D showed no signs of tiring in Q3 and Q4.

And at halftime he said they wanted to get the run game going.

 

[milani]

We have a real challenge Thursday night with Daniels at QB. The guy is a better runner than passer, and we need to constantly work on containment on the outside. Lane integrity on pass rushes will also be a key issue because he will find seams on broken plays where he can turn it into an effective run.

Just my opinion but because of matchups, I think Washington is a tougher game than what the Lions were even on paper.

And it has been a while since we played Washington. I believe it was when Rodgers was still our QB. Daniels was not there and neither was the current head coach. Whereas we see Detroit twice a year. So we can only go by film. Now Parsons may know the Washington offense better than any of our staff.

We have a real challenge Thursday night with Daniels at QB. The guy is a better runner than passer, and we need to constantly work on containment on the outside. Lane integrity on pass rushes will also be a key issue because he will find seams on broken plays where he can turn it into an effective run.

Just my opinion but because of matchups, I think Washington is a tougher game than what the Lions were even on paper.

 

[milani]

If this were last year's D, the Edge guys would play more contain. With Parsons, that may change to rushing Daniels more, and put a spy on him. I don't think the Commanders are better than the Lions - but MLF and Hafley will have to find a way to keep Daniels in the pocket and force him to get rid of the ball earlier than he'd like.

And we knew the Lions. We have not played this team since 2022. Can we have the success moving the football against them we did against Detroit? The Giants offensive line is weak and could not block and give Wilson much time. I hope ours is better. Will they key on Jacobs?

 

[OldSchool101]

Teams that faced our cover two would try to beat us with pounding the rock and throwing crossing patterns to spread us. If we can be effective against the run teams will have to throw underneath like Goff did. The challenge for us is that we have some very good rushing opponents this year including the one two punch of a QB who can burn you with the RPO.

Yes. GB has a key ingredient in the antidote to stop the run. Speed.

I said before this game (on another forum) that GB needs to be prepared for the screens and dump passes to counter or Pass Rush. We needed to expect that and gang tackle. Wow did they answer that call!
16 of 22 Plays to the RB’s resulted in contact behind the LOS.

Also. The danger that Washington faces is Daniels is a fast, but slender QB. Once out of the pocket he loses protection afforded a Passer. It takes 1 punishing tackle and it’s season over or off to IR. Us Packer fans learned that the hard way.

 

[milani]

Yes. GB has a key ingredient in the antidote to stop the run. Speed.

I said before this game (on another forum) that GB needs to be prepared for the screens and dump passes to counter or Pass Rush. We needed to expect that and gang tackle. Wow did they answer that call!
16 of 22 Plays to the RB’s resulted in contact behind the LOS.

Also. The danger that Washington faces is Daniels is a fast, but slender QB. Once out of the pocket he loses protection afforded a Passer. It takes 1 punishing tackle and it’s season over or off to IR. Us Packer fans learned that the hard way.

Didn't that happen to Robert Griffin years ago when he was their QB?

 

[OldSchool101]

I heard a stat that no singular player has ever had only 30 yards across 10 catches ((an NFL record (low)) until our game.

 

[RRyder]

I thought MLF's play calling was more conservative in the 2H. The Lions somehow dominated TOP and the D was on the field a lot.

It's a minor gripe. All three teams excelled. Whelan can change field position and that is a huge asset.

Play calling didnt really change. They were running the entire 1st half to little succes but simply converted to to move the chains. What changed was the execution on quite literally 2 drives. In fact they ran WAY more effectively in the 2nd half

1st drive of the 2nd half: 3 plays 8 yards. 2 runs to put them into a 3rd and 1. Jacobs then gets stuffed for a 1 yard loss. (Im not gonna say running on 3rd and 1 is a bad idea)

2nd drive of the 2nd half: 8 plays 39 yards. 5 of those plays were passing plays (This was also the series Love threw 2 very dangerous balls that he got bailed out on)

Excluding the end of the half possessions this team scored on all but TWO drives and the play calling was remarkably similar throughout the game

Calling something conservative or not should not come down to whether it was successful or not

 

[Thirteen Below]

Didn't that happen to Robert Griffin years ago when he was their QB?

Yeah; he basically only had a 1-year career. Several minor knee injuries in his rookie season, culminating in a very bad injury in the playoffs. Had to repair the ACL and I think the LCL, and he was never the same again. He was a bona fide star in his rookie year, and then an often-injured backup until he finally had enough in 2020.

 

[OldSchool101]

Didn't that happen to Robert Griffin years ago when he was their QB?

Yep. In the short term the good rushing QB’s often have their success. It’s rarely sustainable though. The short term success most often doesn’t pan out across a career.

Lamar Jackson is an anomoly. Very few QB’s that run regular last long term.

Michael Vick played all 16 games once in a 13 year career.

 

[Zad Fnark]

The 35 Whelen is a powerful medium bore rifle cartridge. Born out of a necked up 30-06 to accept a bullet diameter of .358 it has existed since 1922.

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That image sprang to mind with me too.

The .35 Whelen lived in wildcat land for decades until Remington decided to make in mainstream. They've a history of this with others, like the .22-250.

 

[Heyjoe4]

The 35 Whelen is a powerful medium bore rifle cartridge. Born out of a necked up 30-06 to accept a bullet diameter of .358 it has existed since 1922.

Here's a quick video if really interested:

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Gotcha, thanks! Can you now guess that I've never fired a gun in my life? That puts me in a minority in WI. I grew up on Milwaukee's East Side and hunting wasn't a big thing. Although we did a lot of fishing on Okauchee Lake.

But yeah, that's a great analogy for Whelan. I remember GB's history of horrible punters - Bucky Squibner, Ray Shankowicz. Nice that our kicking battery is strong across all three players. As for punting, Whelan can completely reverse field position with one kick. That is a huge asset.

 

[BrokenArrow]

And we knew the Lions. We have not played this team since 2022. Can we have the success moving the football against them we did against Detroit? The Giants offensive line is weak and could not block and give Wilson much time. I hope ours is better. Will they key on Jacobs?

As far as I can tell, they haven't played us since 2022 either.

 

[Magooch]

LaFleur has a very, very good record vs Dan Quinn for what that’s worth

 

[tynimiller]

As far as I can tell, they haven't played us since 2022 either.

Yeah that October game we lost 23-21...many will remember this as the Taylor Heinicke game for Washington