Studs & Duds - Los Angeles

[PikeBadger]

Studs - McKinney, E. Williams, Kraft
Duds - Hafley's 1st half game plan, Whelan

 

[melvin dangerr]

Studs: Jacob’s, Kraft, A Win
Duds: TO’s, dropped passes, Hurricanes

 

[tynimiller]

I struggle to say too much on studs or duds until watching the All22 but I’ll say for sure

Studs - Kraft, Xavier, Evan Williams are the first three that come to my mind as no doubters.

Duds - OL, they simply aren’t consistently on the same page in pass protections…the pick six was a breakdown of responsibility on the backside when we had guys to cover that dude. Catching in general…our WR coach needs to just blast jugs machine at them till their sore…

 

[Pugger]

Studs: Jacob’s, Kraft, A Win
Duds: TO’s, dropped passes, Hurricanes

Yeah, we are bracing for Milton hoping the worst of it goes north of us.

Today was the first game we got to see in its entirety.

Studs: Love, Kraft, Jacobs, secondary

Duds: Run D, Pass Rush, Wicks drops and self inflicted penalties

 

[melvin dangerr]

Yeah, we are bracing for Milton hoping the worst of it goes north of us.

Today was the first game we got to see in its entirety.

Studs: Love, Kraft, Jacobs, secondary

Duds: Run D, Pass Rush, Wicks drops and self inflicted penalties

Good luck to you all, our prayers are with you

 

[Team Ronny]

Dud: Dline..they pay these guys way too much to suck that badly against 4 back-up olinemen.
Stud: Cooper..he is good!

 

[Cornelius Weems]

Studs: Kraft, Williams, Reed, and Xavier "*****-bleeping" McKinney.

Duds: The defense, because if they weren't playing backups on the O-line and in the WR core, it could have been very bad.

This was not a good sign, they were missing one of best WR dous in the NFL, and we still had trouble (outside of XM). Plus like I said before, even if JL had himself a 10 TD game, that wouldn't erase how foolish that pick-six was. We played a marginal team, that was majorly injured, and won by less than a TD. We should have dominated, but we were mostly struggling against a backup O-line.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Studs- Reed, Xavier, Kraft, Brooks, Williams
Duds- LVN, Gary, P Smith, Wicks

Most of the roster has played very poorly over 5 games. It's starting to turn into a trend. Reed, McKinney, Kraft, Tom and Jacobs are carrying the team but that won't last if the rest of the cast doesn't get their act together.

 

[DoURant]

Studs - McKinney, E. Williams, Kraft
Duds - Hafley's 1st half game plan, Whelan

I 2nd your 3 Studs, all 3 guys balled out today. McKinney and Kraft are making a habit of being studs every week. Evan Williams is validating the Draft Day trade up more and more every week.

Duds - (1) Whelan had an uncharacteristically bad game, 5 punts longest 41 yds, and a 28 yd punt when they needed a boomer at the end of the game. (2) Run defense..... smh, wash, rinse, repeat (3) Pre-Snap penalties on offense continue to be an issue.

 

[Zartan]

Studs

Kraft, Xavier McKinney, Jacobs, Reed

Duds

1st Half Jorden Love, Run Defense, Gary, Brick Hands Wicks.

 

[PackerDNA]

Yeah, we are bracing for Milton hoping the worst of it goes north of us.

Today was the first game we got to see in its entirety.

Studs: Love, Kraft, Jacobs, secondary

Duds: Run D, Pass Rush, Wicks drops and self inflicted penalties

God bless you and yours Pugger. Stay safe!

 

[gopkrs]

Studs: McKinney, Kraft, Reed, Cooper
Glad to see Williams playing.
Duds: Both lines. O and D.
Super Dud: Stenavich. For not even trying to put the game away. All he seems to know is run on first down for one or two yards. Pass to the flat for nothing or throw it deep for nothing. We got a few first downs that last drive but Stenavich made sure we couldn't keep it up. The Rams could have easily won that game at the end.

 

[OldSchool101]

I 100% agree we should’ve beat the crap out of LA
That said. We put a Road contest in the Win column as irritating as that finish was. 1st Win at LA in decades if I’m not mistaken.

Stud:
Reed being consistently good
KRAFT coming out party!!
Evan Williams Team Leading Tackles and critical PD Play
XM amazing 5 INT??? Holy Moses !!!!! Beyond impressive at Safety. What an amazing revelation at Safety.
Karl Brooks just filling in like a good Starter. Causing disruption
Edgerrin Cooper all over the place good with 2 QB hits, 1 TFL, 1 Sack


Dud:
Wicks constant drops. It’s now become a major problem and very nearly cost us this game. He might be the next Davante, but not even Davante was this inconsistent at his very worst.
Our D allowing 370 yards,
24-1st Downs
76 Offensive exhausting plays

 

[XPack]

Studs: Kraft, Reed, McKinney, Cooper
Duds: Love (just for the bewildering INT), Wicks (not easy, but still a makeable catch)
Meh: D. Lots of aggression, but not backed by good secondary play.

 

[DigRun]

Yeh, Wicks had a mostly forgettable day, but don't overlook the downfield block on Kraft's first TD. I like the way he tied up the downfield Rams defender from getting the angle on TK to knock him out of bounds and then ends up spilling the other Rams corner from catching Kraft from behind. If Tucker doesn't run that one in and the drive stalls we may end up trying a FG instead...that's been dicey of late although Narvy did what he was called on today.

 

[AmishMafia]

Dud:
Wicks constant drops. It’s now become a major problem and very nearly cost us this game. He might be the next Davante, but not even Davante was this inconsistent at his very worst.

D Droppal Paddlehands

D Droppal is up to his old tricks....at what point do you as a offensive coordinator consider cutting a player due to this? Adams while physically gifted, is becoming a liability on offense due to his lack of production.

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[RicFlairoftheNFL]

Duds: Spectrum making sure I missed the 1st 14 minutes of the game. Love thinking he was Brett Favre on that Pick 6.

Studs: McKinney Cooper and Enagbare

 

[RRyder]

D Droppal Paddlehands

D Droppal is up to his old tricks....at what point do you as a offensive coordinator consider cutting a player due to this? Adams while physically gifted, is becoming a liability on offense due to his lack of production.

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Ahhhh yes the days of some posters at that the time telling me how Adams was on the bubble and should be cut because of his hands..... Good times

 

[PackerDNA]

Don't know if this has been mentioned or not, but this was the first time the Packers won a game in Los Angeles since 1966 or 7.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Studs - McKinney, E. Williams, Kraft
Duds - Hafley's 1st half game plan, Whelan

Whelan was a surprise dud. And most of the "dud" rating comes from that last punt of 28 yards. He's better than that, but he's got to make the pressure kicks as well. Sound familiar for kickers, even though Narveson got back on track yesterday.

And I'd add the offense to the 1H game plan "dud" category. The whole team has looked like it's been sleepwalking in the 1H of the last two games. The spark seemed to be Love's very poor decision on the pick 6. In fairness, he had milliseconds to take the sack in the end zone or get rid of the ball. I'm sure he thought the ball would go out of bounds. First thought wrong again.

The good news is that he and the rest of the team went on a tear from there. Anyway, to your point Pike, they either have to a) come out playing in the 1H, or b) make in-game adjustments before halftime. In-game adjustments have not been a strength for MLF. They looked like a different team in the 2H.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I struggle to say too much on studs or duds until watching the All22 but I’ll say for sure

Studs - Kraft, Xavier, Evan Williams are the first three that come to my mind as no doubters.

Duds - OL, they simply aren’t consistently on the same page in pass protections…the pick six was a breakdown of responsibility on the backside when we had guys to cover that dude. Catching in general…our WR coach needs to just blast jugs machine at them till their sore…

McKinney is spoiling us. Damn he is a TO machine. And it seemed like Williams made a lot of key plays when they were needed. I kept seeing the #33 and thought the offense was on the field. And Kraft, yep.

My biggest concern now is the play of the OL, as you mention. They also should have been running on the worst run defense in the NFL, so that was weird. But in the run and pass game, the OL just isn't getting it done. Too many guys in Love's grill. In the end, I think they rushed for over 130 yards, so that is going very well almost in spite of the line. And the penalties......

Well enough complaining. They are 3-2 and have a winnable game at home against Arizona.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Studs - the WR group. Without Watson and Doubs, they still played very well. Reed's catch between three defenders was a clinic on concentration. And Love threw a damn fine pass.

Duds - the WR group. What is up with the drops?

 

[Heyjoe4]

D Droppal Paddlehands

D Droppal is up to his old tricks....at what point do you as a offensive coordinator consider cutting a player due to this? Adams while physically gifted, is becoming a liability on offense due to his lack of production.

www.packerforum.com

That's a blast from the past. I really liked the Adams pick (no, I didn't think he would be as great as he's become, I just liked him out of college). He dropped a lot of passes his first two seasons, and he spent way too much time arguing with officials. I'm glad they had the patience to wait for year 3. Your subtle point on the calls for him to be cut is spot on.

I'd be much more concerned if the WRs weren't getting open, but they are. I think both Wicks and Reed had passes bounce off their hands because they were looking upfield. Those mistakes can and will be corrected. I don't like the drops but it's not a huge concern IMO.

 

[tynimiller]

Dud:
Wicks constant drops. It’s now become a major problem and very nearly cost us this game. He might be the next Davante, but not even Davante was this inconsistent at his very worst.
Our D allowing 370 yards,
24-1st Downs
76 Offensive exhausting plays

Davante absolutely was as exhaustive....so was James Jones early on. I can remember Davante getting boo'd by fans a time or two...

Fact is no other wideout except for Davante has been better continually at separation than Wicks in modern memory. Wicks never suffered with drops at the college level, and I suspect as his progression only continues we continue to see him get better at this. I do intend to if time allows watch all Wicks targets from this year...and really watch to see any tendency he is doing...many like Reed as example who also has more drops than he should it is always trying to do things after the catch before the catch.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Davante absolutely was as exhaustive....so was James Jones early on. I can remember Davante getting boo'd by fans a time or two...

Fact is no other wideout except for Davante has been better continually at separation than Wicks in modern memory. Wicks never suffered with drops at the college level, and I suspect as his progression only continues we continue to see him get better at this. I do intend to if time allows watch all Wicks targets from this year...and really watch to see any tendency he is doing...many like Reed as example who also has more drops than he should it is always trying to do things after the catch before the catch.

Good summary of the "drop" issue with the WRs, Wicks and Reed in particular.

I'd be more concerned if they weren't getting open, but they are. As you say, Wicks is terrific at creating separation, and Reed is good at it too. I don't know how often this happens, but a number of drops I've seen are from the classic mistake of looking upfield before the ball is secured. That is good because it means they're open, bad because it's resulting in too many drops. This is very fixable.