Packers vs Bears Game Thread: More icky Bear droppings Edition

[rmontro]

I just noticed Chicago has slipped ahead of us in offensive yards, and points scored. They're #2 in the league in rushing, and while we are still ahead in passing yards, they are right behind us - we are #13 and they are #14. They've improved rapidly as the season has gone on. Our defense still ranks quite a bit ahead of them though.

You can't help but notice how much more aggressive the Bears are playing under Ben Johnson. Don't care for the dirty play though.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I just noticed Chicago has slipped ahead of us in offensive yards, and points scored. They're #2 in the league in rushing, and while we are still ahead in passing yards, they are right behind us - we are #13 and they are #14. They've improved rapidly as the season has gone on. Our defense still ranks quite a bit ahead of them though.

You can't help but notice how much more aggressive the Bears are playing under Ben Johnson. Don't care for the dirty play though.

If the league allows dirty play, then the only way to stop it is to retaliate. This has come up before in past seasons when the Bears made deliberate head to head hits. The Bears apparently feel safe in thinking the Packers will take the hits but won't dish them out.

Although retaliation may stop the dirty hits, it could also cause them to escalate. We saw that with Ditka and Forrest Greg.

What we know is if you do nothing, the Bears will continue them. Ultimately, the league has to provide the grounds for fair sportsmanship.

 

[milani]

I think you mean MLF. Agree he's got the platitudes and cliches down cold.

No, I liked MM's more.

 

[adambr2]

That seems like something someone would say if they're looking for any reason to bash the Packers and MLF. The fact is that 7 teams per conference make the playoffs nowadays. All you can do is give yourself a chance, and if you make the playoffs as a 7-seed you have a chance. Teams have won the Super Bowl as the 6-seed before, and eventually a 7-seed will win the Super Bowl.

I'm not saying the Packers have much of a chance this season, but they do seem fairly similar to the 2010 team. Lots of injuries, but so far they have never lost a game by more than one possession, and they have never trailed in any game by more than 10 points. The 2010 team never lost by more than 4 and never trailed by more than 7.

Ok, well if MLF makes the Super Bowl, I will absolutely give him credit and admit I underestimated him.

Until that actually happens in fact and not just in hypothesis, I will continue to see him as a coach that can’t win big games and has a carry trajectory much like Marty Schottenheimer.

 

[pacmaniac]

I'm writing the following letter to the NFL:
NFL Headquarters
345 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10154
DEAR NFL,

THERE IS FOOTBALL. AND THEN THERE IS INTENT TO INJURE.

WHAT I SAW IN THE BEARS-PACKERS GAME ON 12/20/2025 WAS INTENT TO INJURE.

THE HELMET-TO-HELMET HIT BY BEARS #94 ON DEFENSELESS JORDAN LOVE WAS INTENT TO INJURE.

THE ATTEMPT BY THE BEARS’ PLAYER TO HIT BACKUP PACKER QUARTERBACK MALIK WILLS AS HE WAS SLIDING WITH HIS FOREARM TO WILLIS’ HEAD WAS INTENT TO INJURE.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE BEARS TARGETED PACKER QB’S.

IT IS ABOUT TIME FOR THE NFL TO FOLLOW THE LEAD SET BY COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND INSTITUTE A TARGETING RULE.

YOU WERE YEARS LATE ON MOVING THE GOAL POSTS TO THE BACK OF THE END ZONE.

YOU WERE YEARS LATE ON IMPLEMENTING THE 2-POINT CONVERSION.

NOW YOU ARE YEARS LATE ON IMPLEMENTING A TARGETING RULE.

OR ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT UNTIL A PLAYER GETS PARALYZED (OR WORSE)?

Probably would be taken more seriously if it's not in all caps.

 

[adambr2]

Then why do you watch and why are you here?

I wasn’t always this bitter.

4th and 26, the 2007 NFCCG against the Giants, two playoff overtime heartbreaks against the Cardinals, the Kaepernick playoff disaster, the Anders Carlson 49er disaster, the special teams 49er disaster where Aaron Jones made some weird inside cut before halftime and we ended up with 0 instead of 7, (gosh just the 49er playoff disasters are a story in themselves), and of course the Brandon Bostick game, have all taken their toll.

I’m glad we had that magical run in 2010-11 as the 6 seed. If we hadn’t, this entire century of Packer football could only be described as heartbreak.

 

[pacmaniac]

Ok, well if MLF makes the Super Bowl, I will absolutely give him credit and admit I underestimated him.

Until that actually happens in fact and not just in hypothesis, I will continue to see him as a coach that can’t win big games and has a carry trajectory much like Marty Schottenheimer.

I agree that MLF's trajectory looks like that of Schottenheimer's. But I disagree that making the playoffs as a 7-seed should be held against him. "Yeah you made the playoffs 3 times in the past 4 seasons, but always as a 7-seed so that doesn't really count" - doesn't make any sense.

 

[adambr2]

Probably would be taken more seriously if it's not in all caps.

It won’t be taken seriously regardless of capitalization and grammar.

 

[adambr2]

I agree that MLF's trajectory looks like that of Schottenheimer's. But I disagree that making the playoffs as a 7-seed should be held against him. "Yeah you made the playoffs 3 times in the past 4 seasons, but always as a 7-seed so that doesn't really count" - doesn't make any sense.

I’m not holding it against him, it’s just factually easier to make the playoffs with 7 playoff teams versus 6. It’s just part of the overall context. The playoff field in the NFL has been watered down almost as much as the NBA.

 

[rdawsoniii]

I wasn’t always this bitter.

4th and 26, the 2007 NFCCG against the Giants, two playoff overtime heartbreaks against the Cardinals, the Kaepernick playoff disaster, the Anders Carlson 49er disaster, the special teams 49er disaster where Aaron Jones made some weird inside cut before halftime and we ended up with 0 instead of 7, (gosh just the 49er playoff disasters are a story in themselves), and of course the Brandon Bostick game, have all taken their toll.

I’m glad we had that magical run in 2010-11 as the 6 seed. If we hadn’t, this entire century of Packer football could only be described as heartbreak.

I’m the same way. I used to be an optimist regarding Packer football (even the ‘70s didn’t dampen my enthusiasm).

But for all the examples you listed…and more…I now assume they are going to always screw up. I have no confidence in this team. They will miss the playoffs because they couldn’t make ONE play in MULTIPLE games.

 

[adambr2]

I’m the same way. I used to be an optimist regarding Packer football (even the ‘70s didn’t dampen my enthusiasm).

But for all the examples you listed…and more…I now assume they are going to always screw up. I have no confidence in this team. They will miss the playoffs because they couldn’t make ONE play in MULTIPLE games.

Same. I’m not bitter and negative because I enjoy it.

It’s come from 20-25 years of seeing the worst things happen in the biggest moments.

 

[gopkrs]

We do need to be more of a 4th quarter stud. Not sure how to do that except by running more wind sprints. It's not the strength. It's the endurance

 

[Sanguine camper]

I agree that MLF's trajectory looks like that of Schottenheimer's. But I disagree that making the playoffs as a 7-seed should be held against him. "Yeah you made the playoffs 3 times in the past 4 seasons, but always as a 7-seed so that doesn't really count" - doesn't make any sense.

It's not that it doesn't count but that with 7 playoff teams it's gotten much easier. Making it isn't the accomplishment it used to be when now nearly half the teams get in.

 

[milani]

It's not that it doesn't count but that with 7 playoff teams it's gotten much easier. Making it isn't the accomplishment it used to be when now nearly half the teams get in.

I agree.

 

[JoePack]

Regarding these helmet to helmet infractions, I would like the player that hit the other player also be benched as long as the player afflicted is unable to play.
You want to knock a player out via the helmet your going also. Period.

 

[gopkrs]

It still seems pretty tough. A lot tougher than basketball it seems like

 

[milani]

Regarding these helmet to helmet infractions, I would like the player that hit the other player also be benched as long as the player afflicted is unable to play.
You want to knock a player out via the helmet your going also. Period.

Vikings got hit with 2 against the lowly GMen.

 

[melvin dangerr]

If the league allows dirty play, then the only way to stop it is to retaliate. This has come up before in past seasons when the Bears made deliberate head to head hits. The Bears apparently feel safe in thinking the Packers will take the hits but won't dish them out.

Although retaliation may stop the dirty hits, it could also cause them to escalate. We saw that with Ditka and Forrest Greg.

What we know is if you do nothing, the Bears will continue them. Ultimately, the league has to provide the grounds for fair sportsmanship.

And if the league who has the officials as their representatives on the field don’t or won’t do their jobs it’s going to come down to if they go low you have to go lower, and then you might as well call it footbrawl

 

[tynimiller]

I’m not holding it against him, it’s just factually easier to make the playoffs with 7 playoff teams versus 6. It’s just part of the overall context. The playoff field in the NFL has been watered down almost as much as the NBA.

I would argue overall play and especially QB play is light years ahead of years ago. Back in the day man some teams just had bums out there

 

[melvin dangerr]

MLF has got to clean up and fix his redzone problems settling for 3 pts is not going to get the job done, their is a time to take the 3, but your down there 6 is much better.

 

[tynimiller]

MLF has got to clean up and fix his redzone problems settling for 3 pts is not going to get the job done, their is a time to take the 3, but your down there 6 is much better.

If he kicks the three the first drive there is a chance we all see a game go differently

 

[gopkrs]

If he kicks the three the first drive there is a chance we all see a game go differently

Yeah, letting 3 get away in that kind of game/weather isn't a good idea.

 

[milani]

Yeah, letting 3 get away in that kind of game/weather isn't a good idea.

At that point I did not know the kickers would go 6-6. The broadcast led us to believe the wind was horrific. I thought it would be one in which you pass on the long one.

 

[DoURant]

At that point I did not know the kickers would go 6-6. The broadcast led us to believe the wind was horrific. I thought it would be one in which you pass on the long one.

Yeah, it was a cross wind, vs kicking straight into the wind one way. Both kickers were able to play the hook or slice perfectly all day.

 

[Firethorn1001]

If we hadn’t, this entire century of Packer football could only be described as heartbreak.

In an odd way I'd rather be in a position for heartbreak than apathetic. Just means it means something. As a Badgers fan I completely slipped into apathy this year and that is not enjoyable.