Packers vs Bears Game Thread: More icky Bear droppings Edition

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if anything it shows how bad missing Micha parsons was felt Williams had to much time to throw and not a lot of pressure
He had some pressure. We caused an intentional grounding and he had to tank a lot of throws. The difference is that Micha gets the speed rush faster and earlier and takes an extra player with him forcing the QB to react sooner.
 

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OK, everyone. I didn't see a definitive replay, but it looked to me at the time that if Doubs had just let the ball bounce past him it would have gone out of bounds. What were your takes on the play? It looked like it would have been out on the bounce. I know that players don't usually think about that but...
 

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OK, everyone. I didn't see a definitive replay, but it looked to me at the time that if Doubs had just let the ball bounce past him it would have gone out of bounds. What were your takes on the play? It looked like it would have been out on the bounce. I know that players don't usually think about that but...
It may have but Chicago was closing in quickly. I think he went for it before the 10 yards.
 

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Some fans are just fine with choking as long as the team seems to sniff the playoffs. Other fans take their measure of success from Vince Lombardi and want a championship. I'm definitely in the second camp. I just don't take solace in losing and never will.

Can the Packers win a championship with Matt LaFleur? His teams choke in big games. After 7 seasons, there's plenty of evidence to show that the team is soft and unfocused. They just won't play 60 minutes.
In Green Bay, success is measured by championships. In Chicago, success is measured by making the playoffs.

I don’t blame MLF for this loss, but I do think his coaching trajectory will be similar to Marty Schottenheimer’s.
 

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The Bears smelled blood when they cheaply knocked Love out the game and came close to doing it to Malik, I thought it was a penalty to land on a QB with your weight, don’t like it when a player is hurt by a overly aggressive foul it just brings out the BS nature of the game, because then in the back of my head I want their player but equally hurt, hard hits are part of the game but the league has been *****ing a lot about protecting QB’s from roughing, then ejections should be applied.
 
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The whole “who we gonna get if we fire him and how do we know he’ll be better” is an age old argument.

I don’t know. We’ll conduct interviews and find someone. No one was saying “Matt Lafleur” when we asked this question 8 years ago.

The fear of the unknown is why we held onto Dom Capers about 3-4 years too long.
You obviously don’t realize how many games we have Won since Matt coming to Green Bay. The probability of finding someone to Win more than MLF is very, very low.
I think the idea stinks but they didn’t have a you stink emoji to click on.
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OK, everyone. I didn't see a definitive replay, but it looked to me at the time that if Doubs had just let the ball bounce past him it would have gone out of bounds. What were your takes on the play? It looked like it would have been out on the bounce. I know that players don't usually think about that but...
They normally don’t think about out of bounds on a kickoff but they better be thinking of it on a onside Kick! It’s crucial to understand how possession works. We had the same exact thing happen and lost a NFC CHAMPIONSHIP game by not using out of bounds imo. Kinda hard to forget it after Bostick got in the way.

Maybe Rich doesn’t realize if the ball goes out of bounds it’s instant possession? Also once a players body part touches out of bounds and the ball touches the player it’s instant possession.

I brought that concept up during the game (actually I initiated the argument after the 2014 debacle) but I couldn’t tell how close Doubs was. If your within like 1-2 yards or less? I’d slap the ball out or have a guy put his foot on the sideline etc. The out of bounds becomes your friend on an onside Kick specifically. If the ball even grazes a player who had a foot on chalk it’s Packers ball instantly. Any body part grounds the football out of bounds
 
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The only problem with that is that slapping the ball out of bounds is a penalty as well. I saw that in a game this year.
 

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People talking about how good the D coordinator defense is. I'm not buying it. Alll I see these guys do is at the end of the games and in the fourth quarter they cave. They cave like a cool whip tunnel. The only way they were successful is when a quarterback makes a terrible throw IE Williams in the last bears game. But before he made that bad throw they drove all the way down the field Today, the last three drives were terrible. 17 points on three drives and a little over what 5 minutes of possession time....... that's terrible. They are so bad all they can play is deep zone coverage and when they can't do that they are really exposed for what they are.
 

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Whoop de doo. It’s not a moot point. It shows we haven’t been one of the best 6 teams in the conference for 4 straight seasons, which is embarrassing.
Stop living in the past. 7 teams in each conference make the playoffs nowadays. If the Packers win the Super Bowl as the 7-seed, will you say it's not legit because a few years ago only 6 teams in each conference made the playoffs?
 

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You obviously don’t realize how many games we have Won since Matt coming to Green Bay. The probability of finding someone to Win more than MLF is very, very low.
I think the idea stinks but they didn’t have a you stink emoji to click on.
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My goodness, the benefit of the doubt that Matt gets based on 3 extreme seasons at the beginning of his career when Aaron Rodgers was still running the offense, which have nothing to do with today.

Mike McCarthy has an all-time record of 185-123-2 and unlike MLF, is familiar with a Super Bowl. Why aren’t teams blowing up his phone to hire him?
 

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Stop living in the past. 7 teams in each conference make the playoffs nowadays. If the Packers win the Super Bowl as the 7-seed, will you say it's not legit because a few years ago only 6 teams in each conference made the playoffs?
1) they’re not going to.

2) I’m not the only person saying this. The point is that the change has saved MLF from a very different context conversation around his performance since Rodgers left and it’s absolutely a legitimate point.

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OK, everyone. I didn't see a definitive replay, but it looked to me at the time that if Doubs had just let the ball bounce past him it would have gone out of bounds. What were your takes on the play? It looked like it would have been out on the bounce. I know that players don't usually think about that but...
My take is that if he would have kept his focus on the ball; he just would have grabbed it. He sure had great focus the rest of the game.
 

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In Green Bay, success is measured by championships. In Chicago, success is measured by making the playoffs.

I don’t blame MLF for this loss, but I do think his coaching trajectory will be similar to Marty Schottenheimer’s.
Marty certainly had some bad luck. His kicker hurt him in KC. His RB fumbled in Cleveland. He still was a good coach. Gave us fits.
 

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MM is still in that refresh and regroup mode. I still love his post game press conferences because they are all the same.
 

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My take is that if he would have kept his focus on the ball; he just would have grabbed it. He sure had great focus the rest of the game.
It's quite possible he was thinking about another concussion, as dirty as the Bears were playing.
 

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Great work just letting them absolutely gloat in our faces yesterday, gang. Just had to be against the Bears.
 

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1) they’re not going to.

2) I’m not the only person saying this. The point is that the change has saved MLF from a very different context conversation around his performance since Rodgers left and it’s absolutely a legitimate point.

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That seems like something someone would say if they're looking for any reason to bash the Packers and MLF. The fact is that 7 teams per conference make the playoffs nowadays. All you can do is give yourself a chance, and if you make the playoffs as a 7-seed you have a chance. Teams have won the Super Bowl as the 6-seed before, and eventually a 7-seed will win the Super Bowl.

I'm not saying the Packers have much of a chance this season, but they do seem fairly similar to the 2010 team. Lots of injuries, but so far they have never lost a game by more than one possession, and they have never trailed in any game by more than 10 points. The 2010 team never lost by more than 4 and never trailed by more than 7.
 

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Tonight The Pack take on the Bears yet again 2nd time in 3 weeks, ( NFL Scheduling is stupid this season) in a pivotal game for The NFC North. The winner of this game will probably be the Division champion.
I'm writing the following letter to the NFL:
NFL Headquarters
345 Park Avenue
New York, NY 10154

DEAR NFL,

THERE IS FOOTBALL. AND THEN THERE IS INTENT TO INJURE.

WHAT I SAW IN THE BEARS-PACKERS GAME ON 12/20/2025 WAS INTENT TO INJURE.

THE HELMET-TO-HELMET HIT BY BEARS #94 ON DEFENSELESS JORDAN LOVE WAS INTENT TO INJURE.

THE ATTEMPT BY THE BEARS’ PLAYER TO HIT BACKUP PACKER QUARTERBACK MALIK WILLS AS HE WAS SLIDING WITH HIS FOREARM TO WILLIS’ HEAD WAS INTENT TO INJURE.

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THE BEARS TARGETED PACKER QB’S.

IT IS ABOUT TIME FOR THE NFL TO FOLLOW THE LEAD SET BY COLLEGE FOOTBALL AND INSTITUTE A TARGETING RULE.

YOU WERE YEARS LATE ON MOVING THE GOAL POSTS TO THE BACK OF THE END ZONE.

YOU WERE YEARS LATE ON IMPLEMENTING THE 2-POINT CONVERSION.

NOW YOU ARE YEARS LATE ON IMPLEMENTING A TARGETING RULE.

OR ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT UNTIL A PLAYER GETS PARALYZED (OR WORSE)?
 

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I'm not saying the Packers have much of a chance this season, but they do seem fairly similar to the 2010 team. Lots of injuries, but so far they have never lost a game by more than one possession, and they have never trailed in any game by more than 10 points. The 2010 team never lost by more than 4 and never trailed by more than 7.
Exactly, you at least give yourself a chance at victory, if you are within 1 score.
 

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OK, everyone. I didn't see a definitive replay, but it looked to me at the time that if Doubs had just let the ball bounce past him it would have gone out of bounds. What were your takes on the play? It looked like it would have been out on the bounce. I know that players don't usually think about that but...
Does not matter if it could or could not have gone out of bounds, it was kicked right at him, he is on "hands" team and basically blew it completely. Backed up before the ball got to him, did not grab and secure the ball (acted like, looked like he was not sure what to do with the bouncing ball). That one play put GB into a tailspin mentally and emotionally, catch it and you win the game. The failure to execute gave Chi the time to tie the game, Def did not play well in that last tying drive. In OT, Bears believed they could stop the Pack. The Willis snap fumble in red zone was the last straw for this team mentally- they basically bailed out, lost concentration and Chi took advantage. Frankly I do not see this team recovering, possible they go 1-1 in their last 2 games and may get into the 7th spot in the playoff but that is questionable IMO. Minus the fumble, kudos to Willis for a great job to put GB in a position to win.
 

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