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Bears can go hang their 'We beat the Packers banner' now
Hey they do have a QB. Yet he got a little wild at times throwing a Trio of INT. That’s not sustainable football though.

GB needs to go ahead and put the Chicago games on our schedule ASAP and bury Chicago as they enter year 3 of their 4 year window.
 

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Caleb is fascinating. He’s made some of the most improbable throws I’ve ever seen, but then he misses wide open receivers.
He's a gunslinger. They make improbable plays because they try them often. That willingness to gamble also results in turnovers.

Williams isn't a very good pocket passer. He frequently misses guys but makes his best passes on the run.
 

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He's a gunslinger. They make improbable plays because they try them often. That willingness to gamble also results in turnovers.

Williams isn't a very good pocket passer. He frequently misses guys but makes his best passes on the run.
Part of that was the Rams defense. They botched the Hail Mary but otherwise they made plays. As you get into the playoffs and face better defenses you will not always pick them apart like you do other teams.
 

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He's a gunslinger. They make improbable plays because they try them often. That willingness to gamble also results in turnovers.

Williams isn't a very good pocket passer. He frequently misses guys but makes his best passes on the run.
He has some gunslinger characteristics, but he’s been very INT averse, outside of these last two playoff games. Just 1.2 percent of his passes are picks, which would be the best of all time if he had enough attempts to qualify.
 

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Watching this Rams-Bears game and it's just making me more annoyed. We absolutely 100% should've put away the Bears. Feel like this game is making our loss look worse lol
Oh yeah, we had that game won. That was an infamous loss, but it was just one of many this season.
 

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Some similarities. McMahon could get real gutty.
I think they have a number of similarities, when you think about it. Some directly comparable, others less so, and some just intangible. But once I started noticing that, I had a hard time not noticing whenever I watch the Chicagoes.

Both are dynamic, aggressive quarterbacks, well-known for their off‑script creativity and willingness to throw risky passes downfield instead of always taking conservative check‑downs. Playmaking, improvisational quarterbacks who can move, very often extend broken plays, and throw effectively from out of the pocket rather than purely static dropback passers. Dangerous even when the protection completely breaks down, turning a lot of sacks into 1st downs. Guys who regularly make things happen just when you thought it was all over.

And, exciting as hell to watch (unless you're a Packer fan). Electrifying quarterbacks who energize the crowd and inspire their team.


But physically Caleb is tougher. McMahon missed a lot of games.
Yeah, he had a dangerous, "all in, all the time" playing style; he attacked so many broken plays with reckless abandon, and paid the price far more often than most quarterbacks. I see a little of that aggressive tendency in Williams, but nowhere near to the extent of McMahon. In his 7 seasons with the Bears, McMahon played in just 60 out of 106 possible games - barely 60%.

I think Williams is bound to have a few injuries himself as his career progresses, but he seems more disciplined and prudent on the run, and he's much more sturdy than McMahon was. He's over 30 pounds heavier; built to take a licking and keep on ticking. I've already seen him get up many a time and trot back to the huddle after being absolutely whomped; he's a tough SOB.

And I don't think we're going to be able to count on interceptions the way you can often look forward to with most "out of the pocket, running for his life" quarterbacks.

They finally - finally - found their quarterback. The next 10 years are going to be a lot tougher for the Packers (and a lot more competitive) than the last 40. I don't remember any time in my life when the Bears had a quarterback I respected this much or worried about as much.
 
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Part of that was the Rams defense. They botched the Hail Mary but otherwise they made plays. As you get into the playoffs and face better defenses you will not always pick them apart like you do other teams.
There's a strong case to be made that the Refs ignored a blatant offensive pass interference on the heave into the end zone at the end of the 4th quarter. Kmet pushed off IMO. From some angles, it looked like the DB deliberately removed away from the receiver but was the result of a huge push off.

The league looks the other way because they love the improbable come back narrative by superstar players. It's good for business at the expense of the integrity of the game. I doubt will see the day when a blatant non call can be reviewed. From the infamous Fail Mary to a trip to the Super Bowl stolen from the Saints in the 2018 NFCCG, the NFL is fine with lousy officiating.
 

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I think they have a number of similarities, when you think about it. Some directly comparable, others less so, and some just intangible. But once I started noticing that, I had a hard time not noticing whenever I watch the Chicagoes.

Both are dynamic, aggressive quarterbacks, well-known for their off‑script creativity and willingness to throw risky passes downfield instead of always taking conservative check‑downs. Playmaking, improvisational quarterbacks who can move, very often extend broken plays, and throw effectively from out of the pocket rather than purely static dropback passers. Dangerous even when the protection completely breaks down, turning a lot of sacks into 1st downs. Guys who regularly make things happen just when you thought it was all over.

And, exciting as hell to watch (unless you're a Packer fan). Electrifying quarterbacks who energize the crowd and inspire their team.



Yeah, he had a dangerous, "all in, all the time" playing style; he attacked so many broken plays with reckless abandon, and paid the price far more often than most quarterbacks. I see a little of that aggressive tendency in Williams, but nowhere near to the extent of McMahon. In his 7 seasons with the Bears, McMahon played in just 60 out of 106 possible games - barely 60%.

I think Williams is bound to have a few injuries himself as his career progresses, but he seems more disciplined and prudent on the run, and he's much more sturdy than McMahon was. He's over 30 pounds heavier; built to take a licking and keep on ticking. I've already seen him get up many a time and trot back to the huddle after being absolutely whomped; he's a tough SOB.

And I don't think we're going to be able to count on interceptions the way you can often look forward to with most "out of the pocket, running for his life" quarterbacks.

They finally - finally - found their quarterback. The next 10 years are going to be a lot tougher for the Packers (and a lot more competitive) than the last 40. I don't remember any time in my life when the Bears had a quarterback I respected this much or worried about as much.
The Packers under Hafley did a good job containing running QB's. Keep Williams in the pocket and he'll give you a few chances at interceptions like Favre. Let him run and he'll find open receivers because after 3 to 4 seconds, its nearly impossible to keep everybody covered.

The Rams didn't drop their interceptions last night. That made the difference. The Packers on the other hand, would've let those passes hit the ground and with that, any chance for victory.
 

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I think they have a number of similarities, when you think about it. Some directly comparable, others less so, and some just intangible. But once I started noticing that, I had a hard time not noticing whenever I watch the Chicagoes.

Both are dynamic, aggressive quarterbacks, well-known for their off‑script creativity and willingness to throw risky passes downfield instead of always taking conservative check‑downs. Playmaking, improvisational quarterbacks who can move, very often extend broken plays, and throw effectively from out of the pocket rather than purely static dropback passers. Dangerous even when the protection completely breaks down, turning a lot of sacks into 1st downs. Guys who regularly make things happen just when you thought it was all over.

And, exciting as hell to watch (unless you're a Packer fan). Electrifying quarterbacks who energize the crowd and inspire their team.



Yeah, he had a dangerous, "all in, all the time" playing style; he attacked so many broken plays with reckless abandon, and paid the price far more often than most quarterbacks. I see a little of that aggressive tendency in Williams, but nowhere near to the extent of McMahon. In his 7 seasons with the Bears, McMahon played in just 60 out of 106 possible games - barely 60%.

I think Williams is bound to have a few injuries himself as his career progresses, but he seems more disciplined and prudent on the run, and he's much more sturdy than McMahon was. He's over 30 pounds heavier; built to take a licking and keep on ticking. I've already seen him get up many a time and trot back to the huddle after being absolutely whomped; he's a tough SOB.

And I don't think we're going to be able to count on interceptions the way you can often look forward to with most "out of the pocket, running for his life" quarterbacks.

They finally - finally - found their quarterback. The next 10 years are going to be a lot tougher for the Packers (and a lot more competitive) than the last 40. I don't remember any time in my life when the Bears had a quarterback I respected this much or worried about as much.
And Ditka did not like it that McMahon missed so many games due to his style even in 1985. Was fed up with it about the time he left.
 

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The Packers under Hafley did a good job containing running QB's. Keep Williams in the pocket and he'll give you a few chances at interceptions like Favre. Let him run and he'll find open receivers because after 3 to 4 seconds, its nearly impossible to keep everybody covered.

The Rams didn't drop their interceptions last night. That made the difference. The Packers on the other hand, would've let those passes hit the ground and with that, any chance for victory.
The Packers actually didn't let those passes hit the ground one week ago, and it significantly hurt their field position.
 

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