Packers Trade Candidates

[OldSchool101]

Our D isn’t an “on paper” Defense.
#5 yards
#6 points
#8 sacks

We return 8-9 of our primary 11 starters and we reinforced 1 with a clear upgrade at CB (Dobbs over Stokes). Our LB fee is likely even area and or DL has Stackhouse, Brinson, Oliver, Sorrell over TJ. Hardly a concern. Only one that should be worried is our opponent if any ONE of that group somehow figures it out in their Rookie season.

IMO without any change at all.. GB is poised to rank Top3-10 in D scoring against a Stiff opponents schedule. They are not in a position of weakness as some people are predicting. GB’s D and Coaching Staff is being both undervalued and underestimated. It’s even possible our 2025 presents the best D outcome in over 15+ seasons (2009-2010) I’m actually excited to see if these guys can improve off #6

We also have the financial means to both buy and sell. If desired, we can 100% add more players (such as trade deadline) or if we choose we can retain the band through 2026 if they look legit.

#Don’t get distracted
# Stay the Course!
#Take the North

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

First, Jerry Jones has obvious dementia and I wouldn't put anything past him. Second, while Parsons is not a requirement for a Super Bowl he would make the path to getting one much, MUCH more realistic.

It's 100% not happening, so I wouldn't waste more thought on it if I were you.

Go buy a 90 Lukas Van Ness jersey. Lukas about to move into star status this season.

Stay tuned..

12 days and ticking.

 

[thequick12]

Would be insanely unGute like and unintelligent to give up the amount of draft capital, likely a starter and that much money….ill say it again Parsons is the guy you get in FA not trade for. History time and time again has shown draining your team in this manner in a trade just doesn’t work out well.

Unfortunately, players like Parsons dont hit unrestricted free agency

 

[tynimiller]

Unfortunately, players like Parsons dont hit unrestricted free agency

Eh....yes and no - rare but historically they have at times for sure. By they I'm speaking to guys truly elite at the time of the acquisition...going off memory so forgive me likely forgetting some:

Reggie White easily might be the greatest FA signing
Drew Brees
Deion Sanders
Charles Woodson
Priest Holmes
Simeon Rice

Few that are right there on edge, that played elite for a few more years or were for sure BIG guys still that came to mind is Jerry Rice and Peyton Manning

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Gute was asked about Micah today at his presser. He can't discuss another teams player, and he just said every day of the year they are looking to improve the football team. Also said: "sometimes the best moves you make are the moves you don't make." Also spoke of how he likes the pass rush and defense as it is: "Really excited about that group."

Bottom line: He will not be pursuing Micah Parsons, and Dallas has not made Micah Parsons available for a trade. The end.

 

[gopkrs]

While I don't think it was ever going to happen. I sure wouldn't be listening to general managers about what they will or won't do.

 

[mradtke66]

Eh....yes and no - rare but historically they have at times for sure.

I say they really don't. I think everyone on your list has an asterix behind their name. Young, special players don't make it to FA unless there is a concern around them.

Reggie White easily might be the greatest FA signing

Was excluded from being Franchise Tagged due to being a named plaintiff in the suit that created free agency.

Drew Brees

Serious injury concerns--failed a physical with Miami.

Deion Sanders

Known headache/diva.

Charles Woodson

Viewed as injured, over the hill, and possibly a malcontent.

Priest Holmes

Considered a backup behing Jemal Lewis

Simeon Rice

A very weird career--leaving the Cardinals, he's one of the actually rare players who is good and young to reach free agency. Leaving the Bucs, he failed a physical and was cut.

Few that are right there on edge, that played elite for a few more years or were for sure BIG guys still that came to mind is Jerry Rice

When he ultimately left the 49ers, he was older than dirt.

and Peyton Manning

Old and injured. Honestly surprising he made it as long as he did with the Broncos.

 

[tynimiller]

I say they really don't. I think everyone on your list has an asterix behind their name. Young, special players don't make it to FA unless there is a concern around them.

Was excluded from being Franchise Tagged due to being a named plaintiff in the suit that created free agency.

Serious injury concerns--failed a physical with Miami.

Known headache/diva.

Viewed as injured, over the hill, and possibly a malcontent.

Considered a backup behing Jemal Lewis

A very weird career--leaving the Cardinals, he's one of the actually rare players who is good and young to reach free agency. Leaving the Bucs, he failed a physical and was cut.

When he ultimately left the 49ers, he was older than dirt.


Old and injured. Honestly surprising he made it as long as he did with the Broncos.

You're hilarious.....all of these guys with exception of Manning continued to play at elite level for two and in some cases a LOT of years after being signed in FA. Also you cannot just pretend like Reggie didn't hit free agency or that Deion didn't because he was a "diva" in your opinion. Fact is all of those guys were elite and continued to be - with the exception of Manning I'd grant. Also you are aware that Parsons has a back issue currently?

Drew Brees - ignoring the fact that he went on to lead the league in passing yards 7 times post signing...completion % 6 times...and numerous other things post-free agency signing.

Charles Woodson....over the hill? His first season with GB he was 30...and proceeded to play 7 more seasons with us and three in Oakland then.

Priest Holmes...and Jamar Chase was listed as WR2 behind Tee Higgins once as well....Holmes was one of the most sought after FAs and the RB of choice. Holmes would put up over 2,000 all purpose yards three straight seasons for KC....I know you're joking dismissing him not as an elite player that hit FA.

Rice was still one of the best WRs in the game when Raiders signed him and proved it for two seasons more....however I'll concede him as I did Manning likely doesn't deserve the mention given the caliber of all the others listed and Parsons.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

While I don't think it was ever going to happen. I sure wouldn't be listening to general managers about what they will or won't do.

Nah, you just listen to internet rumor trolls. I will take what Gute says over your sources.

 

[mradtke66]

You're hilarious.....all of these guys with exception of Manning continued to play at elite level for two and in some cases a LOT of years after being signed in FA.

I'm not disagreeing with that statement. I am saying that each of them had a not insignificant reason why they hit free agency.

Also you cannot just pretend like Reggie didn't hit free agency

I'm not. I'm merely pointing out that he was only allowed to hit free agency because the Eagles were preventing from applying the franchise tag to him by court order.

or that Deion didn't because he was a "diva" in your opinion.

I don't think I'm unique in my opinion.

Drew Brees - ignoring the fact that he went on to lead the league in passing yards 7 times post signing...completion % 6 times...and numerous other things post-free agency signing.

I'm not talking about what happened after the signing. He wasn't view all that favorably by the Chargers--they went out and drafted his replacement. Then only had serious interest from two teams in free agency. He had a contract from Miami and then failed his physical. He was a risk when he was signed.

Charles Woodson....over the hill? His first season with GB he was 30...and proceeded to play 7 more seasons with us and three in Oakland then.

He was annoyed with the Raiders after getting franchise tagged twice and he missed significant time leading up to his departure. AFAIK, the only teams that tried to sign him were the Bucs, who wanted to move him to safety, and Green Bay.

He turned his career around with us. Or at least reinvented his image.

Priest Holmes...and Jamar Chase was listed as WR2 behind Tee Higgins once as well....Holmes was one of the most sought after FAs and the RB of choice. Holmes would put up over 2,000 all purpose yards three straight seasons for KC....I know you're joking dismissing him not as an elite player that hit FA.

The contract he signed in 2001 was 5 yr(s) / $8,448,000. For comparrison, Corey Dillon signed in 2001 5 yr(s) / $26,000,000. I don't think he was as highly sought after initially. He became great and got an early extension in 2003 to the tune of 7 yr(s) / $40,250,000.

I am not saying you can't find good players in free agency or that a FA signing cannot pay dividends, just that the known-great players tend not to make it to FA unless there are extenuating circumstances, ie, the original team doesn't think they're worth it for one reason or another--age, locker room issue, injury concerns, etc.

Reggie was special-unique because he was fed up with the Eagles, sued the NFL to create free agency, and was protected from getting the tag applied to him so that he could be a free agent. Makes Eli's trick to get traded to the Giants seem like childs play by comparison.

 

[gopkrs]

Nah, you just listen to internet rumor trolls. I will take what Gute says over your sources.

Your a troll lol.

 

[tynimiller]

I'm not disagreeing with that statement. I am saying that each of them had a not insignificant reason why they hit free agency.



I'm not. I'm merely pointing out that he was only allowed to hit free agency because the Eagles were preventing from applying the franchise tag to him by court order.



I don't think I'm unique in my opinion.



I'm not talking about what happened after the signing. He wasn't view all that favorably by the Chargers--they went out and drafted his replacement. Then only had serious interest from two teams in free agency. He had a contract from Miami and then failed his physical. He was a risk when he was signed.


He was annoyed with the Raiders after getting franchise tagged twice and he missed significant time leading up to his departure. AFAIK, the only teams that tried to sign him were the Bucs, who wanted to move him to safety, and Green Bay.

He turned his career around with us. Or at least reinvented his image.


The contract he signed in 2001 was 5 yr(s) / $8,448,000. For comparrison, Corey Dillon signed in 2001 5 yr(s) / $26,000,000. I don't think he was as highly sought after initially. He became great and got an early extension in 2003 to the tune of 7 yr(s) / $40,250,000.

I am not saying you can't find good players in free agency or that a FA signing cannot pay dividends, just that the known-great players tend not to make it to FA unless there are extenuating circumstances, ie, the original team doesn't think they're worth it for one reason or another--age, locker room issue, injury concerns, etc.

Reggie was special-unique because he was fed up with the Eagles, sued the NFL to create free agency, and was protected from getting the tag applied to him so that he could be a free agent. Makes Eli's trick to get traded to the Giants seem like childs play by comparison.

Elite players do and have is all I’m saying…but you did then add the young part of it and that does toss out more . I’m sure I’ve spaced some but it is safe to say guys sub 27 don’t hit FA and are truly elite more than once or twice a decade it seems.

 

[milani]

Perhaps I am misreading you, but it seems like you wanted it to be?

I feel the Packers are true contenders currently. Why would they want to give up a bunch of draft capital, and pay Micah Parsons north of 40 million a year?

It's a totally fake internet troll story, and Packers fans are happy it isn't true.

I would never spend that kind of money. If he was cheaper someone else would have grabbed him. The question is will Parsons be playing in the Cowboy-Eagle game September 7.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Your a troll lol.

Obviously not, but if an actual troll were projecting and trying to frame someone else as a "troll" they would be more grammatically correct with: "You're a troll."

Did you watch the Gute and LaFleur pressers today? Matt's new "Burt Reynolds" stache is worth a view. And Gute said some interesting things. Wait, you don't listen to the guy that has the most control over the day to day football operations, I forgot.

Have a good night, I know I will!

OneTeamOneNation
PackerNation!

 

[milani]

I can't see the Packers organization doing it, it's not what they do, ( Giving up tons of draft capital). On a more common note, as of right now, we are the youngest team in the league again.

3 years and running. Phenomenal! No wonder we did not keep MH. So is McManus the oldest player on the roster?

 

[mradtke66]

Elite players do and have is all I’m saying…but you did then add the young part of it and that does toss out more . I’m sure I’ve spaced some but it is safe to say guys sub 27 don’t hit FA and are truly elite more than once or twice a decade it seems.

Thinking about it another, way: most players will be 30 when their second contract expires, assuming two 4 year deals. How often do the Packers give out 3rd contracts? It's normally rare and reserved for special players at premium positions.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

I would never spend that kind of money. If he was cheaper someone else would have grabbed him. The question is will Parsons be playing in the Cowboy-Eagle game September 7.

I think he will be, the question is how impactful will he be after missing so much time?

 

[milani]

I think he will be, the question is how impactful will he be after missing so much time?

The Cowboys need all the help they can get against Philly.

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

The Cowboys need all the help they can get against Philly.

Yeah, I got Philly winning that fairly easily. I think it's on the 4th and not the 7th. Innocent mistake on your part.

 

[gopkrs]

Thinking about it another, way: most players will be 30 when their second contract expires, assuming two 4 year deals. How often do the Packers give out 3rd contracts? It's normally rare and reserved for special players at premium positions.

I don't know how often but why not? Just depends on agreeing to a contract. Depends on what kind of shape the player is in and whether they can agree on value. I suppose incentive type contracts might work.

 

[milani]

Yeah, I got Philly winning that fairly easily. I think it's on the 4th and not the 7th. Innocent mistake on your part.

Thanks. I will mark it down. Is that a Prime game?

 

[thequick12]

Eh....yes and no - rare but historically they have at times for sure. By they I'm speaking to guys truly elite at the time of the acquisition...going off memory so forgive me likely forgetting some:

Reggie White easily might be the greatest FA signing
Drew Brees
Deion Sanders
Charles Woodson
Priest Holmes
Simeon Rice

Few that are right there on edge, that played elite for a few more years or were for sure BIG guys still that came to mind is Jerry Rice and Peyton Manning

Id agree on Reggie and Deion but Drew Brees wasn't "Drew Brees" until he got to the Saints. Woodson proved he was still elite with the Packers but nobody around the league thought it at the time he was free. Only reason Packers were able to get him. Holmes and Rice werent in the same league as Parsons. Also none of those examples are exactly recent. Manning was the most recent but his freedom was because of injury

I guess my point is if youre not willing to trade for an elite player the only way to really get em is by drafting one

 

[milani]

Id agree on Reggie and Deion but Drew Brees wasn't "Drew Brees" until he got to the Saints. Woodson proved he was still elite with the Packers but nobody around the league thought it at the time he was free. Only reason Packers were able to get him. Holmes and Rice werent in the same league as Parsons. Also none of those examples are exactly recent. Manning was the most recent but his freedom was because of injury

I guess my point is if youre not willing to trade for an elite player the only way to really get em is by drafting one

I always harken to the Herschel Walker deal. I applaud the Vikings for it.

 

[Thirteen Below]

I always harken to the Herschel Walker deal. I applaud the Vikings for it.

I'm more inclined too applaud the Cowboys!

 

[Deleted member 18607 aka in gute we trust]

Thanks. I will mark it down. Is that a Prime game?

8:20 p.m. EDT/7:20 p.m. CDT kick from Lincoln Financial Field. On NBC.