Packers Lions Studs and Duds

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

It's the forking Lions for crying out loud. If he loses that, all the teams he dreams of being traded to might start asking questions. Let's see what he does against a real team Sunday night.

Rodgers and our offense I'm not worried about, it's the our defense for the SF game that has to improve.

 

[Dantés]

Health allowing, the Packers OL is going to be really good by about the midway point of the season. These young guys need some reps, but they can play.

I have no idea if the defense is going to suck or round into form, but there is a plausible narrative in which they get better as they grow comfortable with the scheme and get better at communicating.

I thought Rodgers was just ok tonight. I wish they would have used Dillon more late. Stokes had a great night and I thought Campbell did some nice things.

I’m highly skeptical regarding this 49ers game.

 

[realitybytez]

Aaron Jones no stud? Wow

but he only scored four touchdowns. he'll get better i'm sure.

 

[realitybytez]

I thought Rodgers was just ok tonight.

22 of 27 (4 of the incompletions were to mvs)
255 yards
4 tds / 0 ints
passer rating of 145.6
a pinpoint 50 yard pass to 17.
a pinpoint 20 yard pass into double coverage to 85 for a td.

just a normal day for aaron rodgers.

 

[Mondio]

while his numbers are certainly impressive and he did have some pretty good plays. The pass to adams and Tonyan stand out, I get what Dantes is saying as I feel he's better than what he showed. I've seen lesser QB's connect on those throws to MVS. Dirted one in the endzone that was a TD and overthrew another one that was a TD.

 

[Krabs]

Duds:
The defense. The Lions literally could not be stopped except by themselves. The momentum changed when they went for it on 4th and short and passed. Easily could have gotten it with a QB sneak, or any other running play. That was bonehead call. Next possession, Goff fumbles the snap due to rain. Next possession, Goff does the empty hand fumble trying to pass it. None of these three game changing plays were because the defense made plays.
Studs:
Jones, Rodgers, Adams, Tonyan and a little Cobb sprinkled in. When the offense adjusted to hitting the flats and attacking the middle with Tonyan the Packers had mismatches all over the field.

 

[swhitset]

Jones had a big night. Rodgers missed a couple TD's but overall pretty efficient with the ball. He and MVS will be working on that long ball. If he can drop a frickin dime to Adams, he can drop some to MVS. I loved the post game questions and the first one out of her mouth, "are you an I told you so guy" and you could see the look on his face like *** kind of question is that? and his answer was classic I thought, i forget his actual words but to me the message was clear. "look for all of you that don't understand the game, it's early, we're not as good as we're going to get, and this a win, not the super bowl so what good would an I told you so do?"

anyway, Adams made some good grabs and Tonyan. Catching that TD right off the defenders earhole was awesome.

Defensively, I missed the first 10 minutes or so. Basically tuned in in time to see A Jones get his first TD. My buddy was ripping on King thru texts so maybe he sucked to start? but I didn't really see suck after that. Yeah, he got leap frogged, but generally his run support isn't the issue outside of his shoulders holding up. and on that near TD he played it about as perfectly as you can and on the one, did knock out what would have been a sensational catch near the goal line. he deservedly was the whipping boy last week, if he deserved it from last night, I missed it.

Saw some good things from Campbell and our rookie Stokes. I thought Gary had a decent game, he's pretty active and he did have a sack last night. I think the biggest problem is the Dline working as a complete unit consistently. If one guys is making a good push and nobody else is, easy for a QB to escape. There were times when they looked like a unit working together in both pressures and stopping the run. I thought the DL as a whole was on the weaker side, but are showing improvement.

Overall, there was improvement, still have a long ways to go though.

Well… he essentially escorted the Lions to the end zone on their first drive so…

 

[easyk83]

while his numbers are certainly impressive and he did have some pretty good plays. The pass to adams and Tonyan stand out, I get what Dantes is saying as I feel he's better than what he showed. I've seen lesser QB's connect on those throws to MVS. Dirted one in the endzone that was a TD and overthrew another one that was a TD.

Eh he likely still needs to completely adjust to game speed, I'm not a fan of him taking the whole preseason off. Atleast have him play a half on game 3.

 

[Dantés]

22 of 27 (4 of the incompletions were to mvs)
255 yards
4 tds / 0 ints
passer rating of 145.6
a pinpoint 50 yard pass to 17.
a pinpoint 20 yard pass into double coverage to 85 for a td.

just a normal day for aaron rodgers.

He was playing one of the worst defenses in the league at home.

He held the ball way too long on multiple occasions.

At least two of those incompletions to MVS were his misses, by his own admission.

He was OK.

 

[tynimiller]

For STUDS I got: Jaire, Jones, Campbell

Honorable mentions: Stokes (his flashes are big), Preston for on a night where we did nothing for pressure I saw him doing best and sealed edge well most of the time, and Aaron Rodgers of course - dude looked Perfect at times (but let's not pretend a few massively missed balls to MVS he didn't make catchable..and held the ball insanely long a few times).

Duds: Secondary communication sucks plain and simple, First half defense - the whole group and the DL as a whole.

 

[tynimiller]

For reference sake PFF grades of top 5 offense and defensive for us from the game:

1. RB Aaron Jones, 88.1
2. WR Davante Adams, 87.4
3. WR Randall Cobb, 79.9
4. LG Jon Runyan, 79.6
5. TE Robert Tonyan, 77.9

and

1. DL Kenny Clark, 85.8
2. LB De’Vondre Campbell, 81.0
3. OLB Preston Smith, 74.1
4. CB Eric Stokes, 72.1 (WENT FROM 8 SNAPS TO 44 THIS WEEK)
5. LB Krys Barnes, 70.7

 

[tynimiller]

Honestly on second thought Runyon needs a Stud nomination. Played all 65 snaps and not a single pressure even given up. I like the projection of our offensive line.

 

[Dantés]

The defensive line was running a lot of stunts and games early on, and they weren't getting close. It seemed like they started heating up the pocket when they just rushed their gaps.

 

[Wi. Mike now in Florida]

Any injury's from Monday's game?

 

[Mavster]

Studs: The rain for being the only thing to stop the Lions offense.

 

[AmishMafia]

Aaron Jones - thought we spent too much, now he may be a bargain
Devanti Adams - he looks different. A little quicker and more elusive out there. I didn't think he could get any better. May set all sorts of records this year.
Campbell - not sure he belongs here, but the best ILB performance we had in some time and he needs to be mentioned.



Passing offense: We were playing one of the worst defenses in the NFL last year. They were down their top 2 DBs. We should have lit them up the whole game.
Bury (my new spelling)- MLF told him at halftime to increase pressure if in man. Why the hell did Berry need to be told that and why wait till halftime?
DL - Defense will struggle all year if they don't pick it up in the trenches


(optimism)
Myers - good
Hill - really good on returns - like his unfired style
Newman - okay
Stokes - impressive (probably wrong coverage on TD - but looked really good on most coverages.)

OL looked better but has a long way to go. They were average at best. The SF DL is far better than pitiful Detroit. I think they will get manhandled next week.

 

[LetzBreel]

Duds: All of the raging morons who insinuated that Rodgers was sabotaging the team, didn't care about winning anymore, had mailed it in, doesn't have the fire burning anymore, wants to do his own thing, hates his teammates, rebels against his head coach, doesn't give a **** about the fans anymore, beats on elderly women, and steals candy from little kids.

I was on the fence about #12 until you listed those last 2! He is horrible! lol

 

[LetzBreel]

Prior to hitting the "post reply" button, this thread is sitting at 1 page. It's incredible how little traffic there is on the forum after a big bounce back win, as opposed to a loss. It just shows that many come here just to *****.

And what would we do without you to stir it up. I would think that you would be happy to not hear it. Yet, you are disappointed. I am replying to you and already replied to jhawk. What else do you want? I will repeat - Aaron Jones was great. #12 threw 2 dimes. The defense was average or below. Kevin King just lost his job. Special teams are questionable. Tonyan is going to have a big year. It was a win. Anything else?

 

[Curly Calhoun]

I liked what I saw out of Eric Stokes. He's raw, and makes the usual rookie mistakes, but the talent is there, and he completes hard.

More experience will help him, but he looks the part. Looking forward to Alexander and Stokes as a shut-down combo.

 

[gopkrs]

Honestly on second thought Runyon needs a Stud nomination. Played all 65 snaps and not a single pressure even given up. I like the projection of our offensive line.

If Runyon turns out to be good; I will be mad at whoever (and I really don't know who that was) did not play him against Tampa Bay.

 

[tynimiller]

If Runyon turns out to be good; I will be mad at whoever (and I really don't know who that was) did not play him against Tampa Bay.

You have to keep things in perspective relative to the now, and now what he becomes. Presently I think Newman, Patrick and Runyon are very close in terms of ability - with Newman and Runyon of course more unknown about their game, what they can grow in than Patrick (who isn't terribly old himself).

 

[gopkrs]

You have to keep things in perspective relative to the now, and now what he becomes. Presently I think Newman, Patrick and Runyon are very close in terms of ability - with Newman and Runyon of course more unknown about their game, what they can grow in than Patrick (who isn't terribly old himself).

I guess we'll have to disagree because I think that what "someone" did with the tackles in that game really blew it.

 

[sschind]

I can't for the life of me understand why he has such a hard time connecting with MVS after 4 years with him.

On both of those long passes to MVS my initial reaction was "now MVS starts running?" I mean it looked to me that as soon as the camera switched from Rodgers to MVS it looked like MVS started running faster. Kind of like MVS was thinking "I'm just a decoy on this one so I'll dog it a little" but then he realizes the ball is actually coming to him and says "oh crap, I better run" I'm sure that's not the case but I don't know how else to describe it. Its almost like Rodgers thinks MVS is faster than he really is or MVS doesn't think Rodgers can throw it as far as he can. I think coverage was pretty good on both of those but not so good that they wouldn't have been completed if the timing was a bit better.

 

[tynimiller]

Those were overthrows

 

[PackAttack12]

On both of those long passes to MVS my initial reaction was "now MVS starts running?" I mean it looked to me that as soon as the camera switched from Rodgers to MVS it looked like MVS started running faster. Kind of like MVS was thinking "I'm just a decoy on this one so I'll dog it a little" but then he realizes the ball is actually coming to him and says "oh crap, I better run" I'm sure that's not the case but I don't know how else to describe it. Its almost like Rodgers thinks MVS is faster than he really is or MVS doesn't think Rodgers can throw it as far as he can. I think coverage was pretty good on both of those but not so good that they wouldn't have been completed if the timing was a bit better.

I don't think it's a matter of Rodgers not thinking MVS is that fast, nor do I think it's that MVS doesn't think Rodgers can throw it that far. To assume they don't work on those long balls in practice and that they don't know each other's games would be a little misguided, IMO.

Rodgers himself in the presser said that he flat missed him on all three. Took full ownership. I think Rodgers played an extraordinary game, but he's got to be able to connect on more of those long balls.