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Our Schedule Looking Ahead

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by El Guapo, Sep 25, 2013.

  1. El Guapo

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    With the pile of negative threads about how terrible everything is, here is a potential bright spot....our remaining schedule. I'm not going to predict that we run the table, but if we don't win the majority of these remaining games then I'll be a bit depressed. Many of these teams are tanking:

    Lions 2-1
    Ravens 2-1
    Browns 1-2
    Vikings 0-3
    Bears 3-0
    Eagles 1-2
    Giants 0-3
    Vikings 0-3
    Lions 2-1
    Falcons 1-2
    Cowboys 2-1
    Steelers 0-3
    Bears 3-0

    Our remaining opponents have a combined record of 17-22 so far. As tends to happen in the NFL and sports in general, I assume that some of these 3-0 teams will falter and some of these 0-3 teams will improve. Nonetheless, this still looks like a favorable schedule for the Packers.

    Side note: The AFC is 28-20 while the NFC is 20-28
     
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  2. AmishMafia

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    None of these teams will be as good as the 9ers and Bengals. Bears, cowboys and Lions may be pretty good though.
     
  3. Un4GivN

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    Are you still sold on the 9ers? I really feel the Seahawks are head-and-shoulders above the 9ers. And that given this game later in the year and more healthy the Packers could sweep the floor with them.

    As far as the remaining games, the schedule is looking nice. Overall I think the hardest fight is going to be within the division. Bears have two big solid WR which has proven to give the Packers a bit of a fit. Still think we are better overall but those two games could be a fight.

    Then the Lions, its always hit and miss with them in Detroit. I think we clean up shop after the bye. But the game in Ford Field could be a brawl as well.
     
  4. Bus Cook

    Bus Cook You're never alone with a schizophrenic

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    I can see three losses at least so if I figire 4, 10-6 gets us to the playoffs only if the bears can find a way to go 6 and 7 for the rest of the season. That will be tough. We can only really afford to loses three more games and the bears have to melt down.
     
  5. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    some of them may be tanking now, but the season is still young. Wait till week 8, then reevaluate the remainder of the games to be played.

    1) Bears will play us tough, always do
    2) Lion will play us tough, air battle to be sure
    3) Ravens are NO slouch
    4) Falcons will play us hard as well
    5) Cowboys run game is no push over, that will be a challenge along with them having 2 big physical WR's
     
  6. 12theTruth

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    I predicted 9-7 earlier and I'll stick with that.

    This season Aaron Rodgers could go from merely great to legendary. For some reason many fans on this forum still have sky high expectations even though we now officially have the least talented offensive line in the league. Overall,we have enough talent at key positions to get it together and possibly make a run in the playoffs. Do we have the leadership and can Aaron Rodgers meld his game with the burgeoning running attack that has been rearing its head the last two weeks.
     
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  7. ExpatPacker

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    10-6 is what I predicted and I'm sticking with that. 4-2 in the division and 5-2 outside the division.
     
  8. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    math major ? lol j/k
     
  9. ExpatPacker

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    4-2 + 5-2 + 1-2 = 10-6 /P
     
  10. Oshkoshpackfan

    Oshkoshpackfan YUT !!!

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    lol...just bustin balls man..... 4 - 2 division + 5 - 2 non divisional = 9 - 4 lol
    Just going by the screen in front of me
     
  11. MiamiBeachPacker

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    Nice to see someone else is staying positive
     
  12. Un4GivN

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    I wouldn't say the Packers have the least talented offensive line in the NFL, and I dont think there is very much evidence to support that.

    The Packers are tied for 6th most sacks allowed at (10), but also have the 7th most pass attempts (122) of any team. That is one sack for every 12.2 attempts. Almost exactly in the 50% tile for sacks per attempt.

    Here is a list I created of sacks per attempt... Notice Russel Wilson, Eli Manning, Alex Smith, and Andrew Luck all get sacked more per attempt than Rodgers. And one could also argue Rodgers has a above average tendency to hang onto the ball to long, but I think that evens out with his ability to escape sticky situations at times.

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    The Packers also hold the leagues 10th best rushing offense, 3rd best passing offense... Not to mention they played San Francisco and Cincinnati who are both known have very talented defensive lines.

    The Packers may have a makeshift line, but they are preforming much better than people think. If you take EDS out of the picture and replace him with someone better... I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to believe the Packers have a top 10 offensive line in the NFL. One that will get even better with time together.
     
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  13. 12theTruth

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    Least talented equates to the status they held when obtained by the team. A line with 3 1st rounders a 4th and a free agent is going to be more talented than the current unit of the Packers. Your assertion that there is much evidence to support the notion is false. Now talent can be subjective as well, but on its face you won't find too much argument that the Packers have one of the least talented offensive lines in the league.

    Your example fails to take into account QB pressures and QB hits either. It is an overly simplistic representation of the stats regarding offensive line effectiveness. 3 games is a small sample size as well. We will know considerably more about 6 games into the season about this units effectiveness as to providing adequate pass protection.

    Nice chart though. The part I thought was funny was when you had mentioned the possibility of a Top 10 offense line.
     
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  14. El Guapo

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    Wow, look at Matt Stafford with 2 sacks on 121 attempts. Pretty cool stats
     
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  15. Un4GivN

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    By that assumption Alex Smith is more talented than Tom Brady, Brandon Jackson more talented than Arian Foster, and JaMarcus Russell more talented than Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre.

    Draft alignment is only one level of assessment... Would you say Mike Neal is more talented than NaVarro Bowman?

    The main point is they are getting the job done adequately against some pretty stiff defensive lines. Sure numbers aren't everything but whether it is coaching or whatever... they are definitely not the worst preforming line in the NFL right now.

    Edit: I do get your point... And maybe I am looking at it through rose colored glasses. But for the time being I'm ok with that :)
     
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  16. 13 Times Champs

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    Play and get coached like we did against the Bungals and none are a gimme.
     
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    Talent and production are two separate things. Now maybe the talent didn't quite pan out with a few of those players but the coaches also play a role too. Adequately is still debatable. If we look at the number of 3 and outs and failure to convert TD's the offense isn't quite as good as the stats would have us think. Should be quite interesting going forward as to how this pans out.
     
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  18. Un4GivN

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    The one that got me was Cutler... What a turn-a-round so far. Not sure it will hold up or not but still crazy to see him there.

    Also find it funny that both #1 and #2 teams for sacks allowed per attempt are from the NFC north.
     
  19. El Guapo

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    Updated records:
    Lions 3-1
    Ravens 2-2
    Browns 2-2
    Vikings 1-3
    Bears 3-1
    Eagles 1-3
    Giants 0-4
    Vikings 1-3
    Lions 3-1
    Falcons 1-3
    Cowboys 2-2
    Steelers 0-4
    Bears 3-1
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    3 wins and 7 losses by our future opponents yesterday. Their overall record is now 22 wins and 30 losses, with the overall win percentage dropping from 43.5% to 42.3%. The winds continue to blow in our favor and thank goodness we aren't ranked by RRI - just straight wins and losses.

    I'd say the most shocking besides the 0-4 Steelers and Giants is the 1-3 Falcons. They might be saying that about the Packers after we play the Lions but I hope not.
     
  20. gatorpack

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    Ill guess 11-5 but I could see 12-4
     
  21. Munny

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    I am still going with my preseason prediction of 9-7 at best. Our D(including Capers) and O-line are suspect...
     
  22. weeds

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    I'm not sure what I thought before the season when the Pack ostensibly had the 2nd most difficult schedule based on last years' records by opponents. I'm guessing that I did the 9-7/10-6 thing. I'm always hesitant to make those predictions before a snap is played. The last loss (Cincy) just killed me because the Bungles come back the next week and lose to Cleveland. Point is that the Pack seem to have a tendency to completely belly-flop early in the season (except for 2011 where Rodgers was able out-run the defense repeatedly) and put us in a 'coulda-woulda-shoulda' scenario here at the forum, come season's end when the Pack are on the road in the playoffs.

    I also hate predicting because one just can never tell when Clay's hamstring will do its annual blow out and other such variables.

    All I'm saying is that the Pack virtually need to sweep the division in my opinion. Further, the LOINS have the Pack by two games now -- lose on Sunday to the LOINS and they have a very real 3 game lead on the Pack (considering head-to-head results in a tie-breaker).

    I don't want to sound all negative and such because I'm a "play the damned game first" kind of guy ... but man, that Cincy game sticks in my craw and I'm thinking that the Pack match up better against the Bears than the LOINS - eventually, the Vikes are going to get their sh*t together (it's gonna happen) and tighten the race in the North.

    The Pack need to get their discipline in line or they could find themselves in a hole that is going to tough to dig out of because those also-ran teams remaining on the schedule seem to give this team the most trouble.
     
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  23. ThxJackVainisi

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    If the Packers beat the Lions they will be 2-2 for the first quarter of the season. If they go 3-1 in each of the next three quarters, they'll finish with 11 wins. In the last three seasons after the first quarter of the season the Packers have had winning streaks of 4 in 2010, 9 in ’11, and 5 straight wins and then 4 straight last season. So I think 11-12 wins is a reasonable expectation if they beat the Lions.
     
  24. ThxJackVainisi

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    Wouldn’t you think “officially” would have some statistical basis or some sort of a league rating?
    But your “official” assertion wasn’t backed up by anything. After it was challenged you based it on draft status but that was quickly debunked.
    That’s right but that too contradicts your “official” statement. This isn’t a big deal but it seems you just can’t help exaggerating. :D
     
  25. 12theTruth

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    Talent many times can equate to where the player was drafted. It if nothing else is a large component. A recent article detailed the fact the Packers when compared against the rest of the teams in the leagued right now have the lowest average draft position of ANY team in the league. Officially Jack we will come to our own conclusions. Deal with it if you can? :D
     

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