One View of 2006

[Cliff]

The 2006 Packers are what they are, a team with a NFL ranking in the high 20's of 32 teams. The 2006 Packers can win vs the lower echelon teams with losing records but cannot match up with teams with winning records. To date the Packers are 7-1 vs teams with losing records, 38-76 combined while are 0-6 vs teams with winning records, 55-29 combined with one loss to Buffalo 7-7.

Many Packer fans will view the latest 3-0 run as progress even though the 3 wins came vs 3 teams with losing records, 14-29 combined and will ignore the prior 0-3 run which came vs teams with winning records, 26-16 combined. The Packers also struggled offensively vs the Lions and Vikings.

Earlier in the season the Packers 3-1 run was looked upon as progress even though the 3 wins was also vs teams with losing records, 16-27 combined. The one loss was vs 7-7 Buffalo.

No matter what opinion any Packer fan has of TT he will get another shot in 2007 and rightfully so. TT is only a 2nd year GM in the middle of a rebuilding project but the Packer organization should expect dividends in 2007.

With the proper player personnel moves in 2007 the Packers could easily be a playoff team. TT should be expected to make those moves and be held accountable by the Packer organization and by Packer fans.

The 2007 Packers should be expected to turn the corner under GM Ted Thompson or a change should be made for 2008.

 

[IronMan]

Very well said.

 

[Zero2Cool]

tittie, no ... ted!!!

 

[P@ck66]

Two words...

Randy Moss...

(Moss, Driver, Jennings, K-Rob)

TT needs to make a few bold moves in FA like Ron Wolf did....

(Let's finally have a full compliment of good/great receivers...!)

Go Pack Go..

 

[packedhouse01]

I like what you've said and I think it's true. What we have become is the one of the best of the bad teams in the league. Truthfully, we're closer than I thought we would be at the beginning of the year. I honestly though at the beginning of the year that we were an awful team with no talent. I've changed my mind. I think we have some huge holes to fill, but they're fillable now. TT has to lock up a couple of players now under contract to us. He has to find some receivers and a tight end. I'd still like to see a stud safety and a stud DE or D tackle, and a quality dback. think those holes can be filled with free agents and wise drafting.

As for TT. I said at the beginning of this season that this next draft is going to be the key to his legend. This next draft has to be quality because it not only has to fill in the holes, it has to be one that fills with depth. The weakness of this team right now is it's lack of depth.

 

[Zero2Cool]

Two words...

Randy Moss...

(Moss, Driver, Jennings, K-Rob)

TT needs to make a few bold moves in FA like Ron Wolf did....

(Let's finally have a full compliment of good/great receivers...!)

Go Pack Go..

not tittie, ted

That would be awesome and I hope it does happen. Moss wants out, Moss wants to play for a QB who can get him the ball. I think Brett could do that.

 

[dxbfan]

That would be awesome and I hope it does happen. Moss wants out, Moss wants to play for a QB who can get him the ball. I think Brett could do that.

Lets hope that this year Brett makes his decision and announces it fast. His indecision last year seemed to hurt some potential FA possibilities. I think Moss would love to play for a QB like Brett but he needs to know its Brett he's going to be playing for and not someone else.

 

[Cliff]

I like what you've said and I think it's true. What we have become is the one of the best of the bad teams in the league. Truthfully, we're closer than I thought we would be at the beginning of the year. I honestly though at the beginning of the year that we were an awful team with no talent. I've changed my mind. I think we have some huge holes to fill, but they're fillable now. TT has to lock up a couple of players now under contract to us. He has to find some receivers and a tight end. I'd still like to see a stud safety and a stud DE or D tackle, and a quality dback. think those holes can be filled with free agents and wise drafting.

I agree because I can see it too...BUT...is TT capable of getting the job done? IMO, it is a very debatable question.

 

[porky88]

If Ted Thompson doesn't get Moss I hope we don't destroy him because of it. Keep in mind Moss is still under contract by the Raiders and who knows what they are going to want to do with him and what he wants to do.

This free agency isn't really loaded but looking up and down but there is still some talent. Hopefully Ted Thompson goes out and signs a couple of marquee players but then again his way of doing things is via the Draft which takes time but that is what he does best.

Either way this off season should be fun to watch unfold.

 

[tromadz]

Two words...

Randy Moss...

(Moss, Driver, Jennings, K-Rob)

TT needs to make a few bold moves in FA like Ron Wolf did....

(Let's finally have a full compliment of good/great receivers...!)

Go Pack Go..

I actually agree. Brett has been chucking the ball a lot this year, and we have no tall chuck recievers. Moss is a chuck specialist(ask dante culpepper, who he made a star...and where is dante now? Exactly!)

Moss,Driver,Jennings, K-Rob would be cool.

But we know that won't happen. Moss is older, and a malcontent, and its bad enough we got Bubba "I wouldn't be mad if we lost the game" Franks. Lets keep these asshats to a minimum and draft another studmuffin.

 

[P@ck66]

I see your point Porky, but you don't you think it's time for a couple of bold moves from the Packer's GM, ala Ron Wolf..who he's supposed to be a protege of..???

IMO, As a GM...sometimes you have to be agressive and go after who you want, and who is going to help your team..by agressively seeking trades, trying to woo FA players to your team...etc..

(You remember how they got Reggie to play in GB...? Well it wasn't by sitting on their hands..)

I hope TT gets a little more pro-active in FA this year...

 

[tromadz]

I hope TT gets a little more pro-active in FA this year...

well you're getting your hopes up (or setting up your "Ted failed again" rants). He has acted the same way 2 years, why would the 3rd be different? The 2nd year he added some good talent (jennings,hawk,woodson,pickett,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc) and got rid of some clowns (Carroll, Cory Rodgers who was his own draft pick the same year)

this year won't be too different. We have some money this year, but like last year, he probably won't spend it for the sake of spending it. He is doing what he believes helps the team(while following the styles of former superbowl champ GMs)

so...yeah.

 

[P@ck66]

Well...that didn't last long...
:sad: (sigh..)

How about spending it then for the sake of helping this Packer team by participating a little more in FA so they can win some more games next year..??

(It's not his personal damn money bag that he's holding onto in his snapper purse...
:shock: )

(I heard TT opened his wallet once...and a moth flew out!)

It's almost like he's got this ********** for NOT wanting to spend a little money, imo.

TT...get Moss for Crimeny's sake...do something like that...

(Make an old Packer fan happy...)

 

[porky88]

I see your point Porky, but you don't you think it's time for a couple of bold moves from the Packer's GM, ala Ron Wolf..who he's supposed to be a protege of..???

IMO, As a GM...sometimes you have to be agressive and go after who you want, and who is going to help your team..by agressively seeking trades, trying to woo FA players to your team...etc..

(You remember how they got Reggie to play in GB...? Well it wasn't by sitting on their hands..)

I hope TT gets a little more pro-active in FA this year...

Again this is something TT has really no control off. If I'm not mistaken Moss has stipulations in his contract that states he has to agree to the team he's being traded too. So for that to happen I think Favre would have to be back for sure. Also keep in mind the Raiders have to want to trade him. Also if they're asking for a 1st round pick. As good as Moss is and can be he's not worth a 1st round pick. So that's another thing to factor. Finally with Art Shell likely on his way out (according to the NFL Network) the new coach may want to keep him. Lot of things that can happen. Wolf's bold move was trading for a no named Quarterback and Packer fans were sending hate mail. Trading for Randy Moss isn't exactly bold. I mean it's Randy Moss!! It would however send a statement.

 

[P@ck66]

He's worth a first round pick...most definitely.

 

[tromadz]

(It's not his personal damn money bag that he's holding onto in his snapper purse... :shock

Exactly right. For every dollar he doesn't spend, he doesn't get to keep a dollar, so I dont know why you think he has some hidden agenda or something. You thought we shoulda got Hutch, who got a record LG contract, and has SUCKED for the Vikings, who run a zone scheme(like GB), but TT got guys who fit the system, instead of guys with name recognition to make fans like you happy. He is doing things that will help the team win in the future(which makes fans like ME happy)!

there's no need for this to get ugly, pack66, its all good. I can forget the physical threats and myspace stalking for the sake of the christmas season.

 

[thetombradyhater]

It is true that we are only beating bad teams, but it is progress, because last year we lost to bad teams (Lions, Bucs, Browns, Vikings)

 

[porky88]

He's worth a first round pick...most definitely.

Not a top 20 pick. He's going to be 31 I believe. He's had 3 down seasons in a row. He has some baggage. Green Bay would be better off drafting Dwayne Jarrett than trading their 1st for Randy Moss. I'd be very suprise to see the Raiders get a 1st for Moss. None the less Green Bay isn't going to give a 1st for him.

If they do I'll be shocked.

 

[P@ck66]

First off, I don't know what you're talking about..

Secondly...I don't recall wanting to sign Hutchinson (and I doubt he's sucking for the Vikings..as you say), I just wanted some serviceable vets to be signed on the O-Line..but that's taken out of context by some factions here right away who go around mistakenly saying.."You want to break the bank by signing overpriced FA's and ruin the future.....yadda yadda ying..whatever...

There were several vets around last year that wouldn't have broken the bank...

(A guy from the Giants...one from the Patriots I believe...I can look it up..but I'm drunk....)

And don't play innocent with me pal....I can show some people some PM's from you that would curl their hair...so..in the spirit of Christmas...I will forgive and forget and have another beer...!

Here's to ya' :beer:

 

[IronMan]

money, imo.

TT...get Moss for Crimeny's sake...do something like that...

(Make an old Packer fan happy...)

Do you REALLY want Moss?? After he disrespected Lambeau?? This guy is a loser and always will be. He's not going to change. The first time we would have a 2 game losing streak, he would say that he doesnt play hard because he "isnt happy" Just like T.O. is a jerk and always will be. It doesnt matter who coaches him or who he plays for.

 

[P@ck66]

When Favre is lighting up Lambeau like a Christmas tree on New Year's Eve with Moss, Driver, Jennings, and K-Rob...(and some new TE who's name and identity has yet to be disclosed) I guarantee you that you'd want to vote for Moss as Mayor of Green Bay..!

Talent and winning football games tends to heal old wounds like that...!

 

[tromadz]

First off, I don't know what you're talking about..

I could refresh your memory if you like.

 

[P@ck66]

Would you like me to refresh yours as well..?

 

[IronMan]

When Favre is lighting up Lambeau like a Christmas tree on New Year's Eve with Moss, Driver, Jennings, and K-Rob...(and some new TE who's name and identity has yet to be disclosed) I guarantee you that you'd want to vote for Moss as Mayor of Green Bay..!

Talent and winning football games tends to heal old wounds like that...!

Maybe, but if you think he's going to be a model citizen, and teammate, just because hes catching passes from Brett Favre, then youre setting yourself up to be dissapointed. The guy is a timebomb.

 

[tromadz]

Im not the one denying anything, mr. "I don't know what you're talking about.."