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[Heyjoe4]

Who in the NFL doesn't need a CB? It's about the terms of the contract at this point. Jaire is probably negotiating with several teams to get the highest possible guaranteed payout. He knows he's injury prone, so I would think he'd take less in annual salary to achieve a higher guaranteed portion.

Would Jaire grovel back to Green Bay? Seriously doubt it. Those bridges have now been burnt.

Yeah good point on the low probability of a GB/JA reunion.

I'm sure JA and his agent would love guaranteed money, but who would do that with his injury history?

It will be very interesting to see where he lands and what his contract looks like. I think it will be close to GB's offer, $10 mil guaranteed with incentives to bring it to $17 mil. The sticking point is probably the length of the contract with JA wanting three years and teams willing to offer only one year. I wish he had found common ground with GB. Injury history is what it is, but when healthy (ok, a big "if") the guy is a shutdown corner in the NFL, and there aren't many like that.

 

[El Guapo]

Who in the NFL doesn't need a CB? It's about the terms of the contract at this point. Jaire is probably negotiating with several teams to get the highest possible guaranteed payout. He knows he's injury prone, so I would think he'd take less in annual salary to achieve a higher guaranteed portion.

Would Jaire grovel back to Green Bay? Seriously doubt it. Those bridges have now been burnt.

I agree that I doubt he would come back. There aren't many instances of that in the NFL, and especially in GB.

As for who doesn't need a CB, that is true. However, most GMs probably view Jaire as an extremely talented CB with the following baggage: he's often injured, he does have an attitude problem (the self-appointed captain issue), and he is going to be expensive. Most GMs would rather stick with someone on their roster that they can develop.

Jaire's market is for a team that is trying to make the final push for a SB and has ample cap space. That is a very small group.

 

[Heyjoe4]

I agree that I doubt he would come back. There aren't many instances of that in the NFL, and especially in GB.

As for who doesn't need a CB, that is true. However, most GMs probably view Jaire as an extremely talented CB with the following baggage: he's often injured, he does have an attitude problem (the self-appointed captain issue), and he is going to be expensive. Most GMs would rather stick with someone on their roster that they can develop.

Jaire's market is for a team that is trying to make the final push for a SB and has ample cap space. That is a very small group.

CBS sports reported that JA has signed a one year deal with the Ravens for $6 mil. He reunites with college teammate Jackson.

 

[El Guapo]

Ahhh, good for him. It seems that the money wasn't as important to him, which I can respect.

 

[tynimiller]

Ahhh, good for him. It seems that the money wasn't as important to him, which I can respect.

Likely none of us will ever know for sure, but I'm 100% thinking the opposite, money and his desire for more of it is what caused him unwilling to restructure with us, but then when released he likely didn't see a TON of money by any team he wanted to go to....and then had to choose his preference over the most money I bet.

 

[gopkrs]

Likely none of us will ever know for sure, but I'm 100% thinking the opposite, money and his desire for more of it is what caused him unwilling to restructure with us, but then when released he likely didn't see a TON of money by any team he wanted to go to....and then had to choose his preference over the most money I bet.

You would think his agent would be smarter than that. I don't know but if it was my business to know...

 

[tynimiller]

You would think his agent would be smarter than that. I don't know but if it was my business to know...

NOW to be fair, it is possible GB didn't want to put any guaranteed money or base in his pocket upfront in order for him to resign...I could easily see GB wanting to adjust his base to the minimum ($1.3M if memory serves me right for 7+ seasons guys) and provide HEAVY incentive based pay for availability.

In this deal with Ravens he will get $4M for sure with only having to earn $2M....I wouldn't be shocked to learn GB really was like a base of that $1.3M with up to $10M in incentives tied to availability.

 

[Heyjoe4]

NOW to be fair, it is possible GB didn't want to put any guaranteed money or base in his pocket upfront in order for him to resign...I could easily see GB wanting to adjust his base to the minimum ($1.3M if memory serves me right for 7+ seasons guys) and provide HEAVY incentive based pay for availability.

In this deal with Ravens he will get $4M for sure with only having to earn $2M....I wouldn't be shocked to learn GB really was like a base of that $1.3M with up to $10M in incentives tied to availability.

Yeah I think you've described the lost realistic scenario. JA must believe he has still not recovered enough to play CB as it should be played. In that case, the smart/honorable thing to do would be to retire.

Well it will be interesting to see how his season plays out. And it's a shame because the guy was such a talented, shutdown CB in his prime.

 

[El Guapo]

You would think his agent would be smarter than that. I don't know but if it was my business to know...

100% agree. Just like the OJ prosecutors should have never had OJ put on the bloody glove unless they knew that it would fit, a good agent wouldn't tell his client to reject an offer unless he had a good sense of what the market was going to pay. Technically agents can't ask other teams what they would pay for a player who is still under contract, but I bet that burner phones and hallway conversations happen all of the time. An agent should know.

 

[Heyjoe4]

100% agree. Just like the OJ prosecutors should have never had OJ put on the bloody glove unless they knew that it would fit, a good agent wouldn't tell his client to reject an offer unless he had a good sense of what the market was going to pay. Technically agents can't ask other teams what they would pay for a player who is still under contract, but I bet that burner phones and hallway conversations happen all of the time. An agent should know.

Agents are like top journalists - they get paid to know things no one else knows, and they have access to credible sources. For some reason, JA, his agent, or both badly estimated his value. We've seen how good JA can be, but the rest of the NFL hasn't, especially in the last two years.

 

[El Guapo]

...and that's where I just can't believe that they mis-read the market that badly.

I think that Jaire was ready to move on, despite what he said publicly (he had to keep his options open). Playing with his old teammate in Lamar Jackson for less money was probably more appealing than staying with the team that had become too stale for his taste.

 

[Heyjoe4]

...and that's where I just can't believe that they mis-read the market that badly.

I think that Jaire was ready to move on, despite what he said publicly (he had to keep his options open). Playing with his old teammate in Lamar Jackson for less money was probably more appealing than staying with the team that had become too stale for his taste.

Yeah I think your suggestion that JA was fed up with GB could be accurate (although the reverse is also true). It just wasn't in the cards for JA to stay. The only reason for the delay in releasing him was cap related.

And considering the low offer he received, my guess is that neither the Packers or any other team was willing to take a multi-year gamble on JA. A one-year, prove-it deal with a max value of $6 mil does just that.

Regardless of who ended up signing JA, it was always gonna be a gamble. Let's hope Gluten made the right bet.

 

[GBkrzygrl]

So Melton is " cross training " at CB. This is interesting. I remember when Herb Adderley was drafted by the Packers back before the 1961 season. Lombardi immediately wanted him to be a CB without hesitation. He was convinced that Herb was a natural for it although that was not his primary role in college. And he became a HOFer. Good luck, Bo.

Sam Shields switched to CB and did a good job. Yes, I know that he started at CB from the getgo after he was drafted, but that doesn't mean that Bo can't, given some time to adjust.

 

[Voyageur]

So Melton is " cross training " at CB. This is interesting. I remember when Herb Adderley was drafted by the Packers back before the 1961 season. Lombardi immediately wanted him to be a CB without hesitation. He was convinced that Herb was a natural for it although that was not his primary role in college. And he became a HOFer. Good luck, Bo.

Wow! I love it! I remember that too, with Adderley. Lombardi saw that in his game films and stuck to it. Herb appreciated it in short order. It was the best choice that could be made.

Those were some interesting teams. Adderley and Willie Wood. Love them!

 

[milani]

Wow! I love it! I remember that too, with Adderley. Lombardi saw that in his game films and stuck to it. Herb appreciated it in short order. It was the best choice that could be made.

Those were some interesting teams. Adderley and Willie Wood. Love them!

And Willie Wood, a school teacher walk on! Goes to the HOF.

 

[gopkrs]

And Willie Wood, a school teacher walk on! Goes to the HOF.

He played QB at SC. A friend of my Dad's and big SoCal fan, said it looked like he called everyone eligible to go out for a pass and then he just dodged would be tacklers until he found someone open.

 

[Voyageur]

He played QB at SC. A friend of my Dad's and big SoCal fan, said it looked like he called everyone eligible to go out for a pass and then he just dodged would be tacklers until he found someone open.

He was a natural athlete. I got a chance to meet Willie on January 31, 1961, that night after the Championship game when they beat the Giants, in Green Bay 37-0 to win the title.

I had gone to Speed's, which was a hangout for a lot of players in those days, and he was sitting at the end of the bar having a drink, pretty much alone. I walked over and sat down next to him and congratulated him on the win and bought him a drink. We talked a little about football, and a lot about the weather, which was sub-zero. He was looking forward to his meetings with the coaches and flying out to California where it was warmer.

I found him to be a warm and friendly, not wanting to talk about himself, but about the team. I'd say he was shy in a lot of ways. He told me he lived in an apartment about a quarter-of-a-mile away from Lambeau Field, because he'd walk there instead of driving. He hated driving on snowy and icy roads. Was anxious to get to a warmer climate to warm up. But he clarified it by saying he did like Green Bay but not the weather.

One thing I found in our conversation was that the guy really knew football inside and out. He was as much a student of the game as he was player. Very likeable. I never got a chance to meet him again. I wish I had.

 

[Heyjoe4]

Wow! I love it! I remember that too, with Adderley. Lombardi saw that in his game films and stuck to it. Herb appreciated it in short order. It was the best choice that could be made.

Those were some interesting teams. Adderley and Willie Wood. Love them!

OMG Herb Adderley and Willie Wood. Really brings back great memories from those Lombardi teams in the 60s.

Yeah I guess now that I think about it, a guy switching between corner and WR, or vice versa, isn't that weird. Takes about the same skill set, namely, the ability to track the ball and have flexible hips (outfielder baseball analogy to confuse it further....). Melton is a talent as he showed in 2023. If he can play WR and CB and STs, well he's just too valuable to let go.

Seems much more likely now that Heath will be released, and maybe Wicks. I'd rather give Wicks another year to see if he can solve the drops.

 

[Voyageur]

OMG Herb Adderley and Willie Wood. Really brings back great memories from those Lombardi teams in the 60s.

Yeah I guess now that I think about it, a guy switching between corner and WR, or vice versa, isn't that weird. Takes about the same skill set, namely, the ability to track the ball and have flexible hips (outfielder baseball analogy to confuse it further....). Melton is a talent as he showed in 2023. If he can play WR and CB and STs, well he's just too valuable to let go.

Seems much more likely now that Heath will be released, and maybe Wicks. I'd rather give Wicks another year to see if he can solve the drops.

Good point on variety of capabilities. You need Swiss-Army-knife types whenever you can find them. They can fill a lot of holes in an emergency.

 

[gopkrs]

OMG Herb Adderley and Willie Wood. Really brings back great memories from those Lombardi teams in the 60s.

Yeah I guess now that I think about it, a guy switching between corner and WR, or vice versa, isn't that weird. Takes about the same skill set, namely, the ability to track the ball and have flexible hips (outfielder baseball analogy to confuse it further....). Melton is a talent as he showed in 2023. If he can play WR and CB and STs, well he's just too valuable to let go.

Seems much more likely now that Heath will be released, and maybe Wicks. I'd rather give Wicks another year to see if he can solve the drops.

Can't see Wicks getting sacked. He has a lot of potential. He only needs to hang on to the ball. I think he can do that.

 

[milani]

He played QB at SC. A friend of my Dad's and big SoCal fan, said it looked like he called everyone eligible to go out for a pass and then he just dodged would be tacklers until he found someone open.

Am thinking he did not get drafted because he was only 5'10". Yet, he could stuff a basketball. Wrote a letter to Lombardi for a try out.

 

[gopkrs]

Am thinking he did not get drafted because he was only 5'10". Yet, he could stuff a basketball. Wrote a letter to Lombardi for a try out.

Well, also probably because he played QB

 

[OldSchool101]

Can't see Wicks getting sacked. He has a lot of potential. He only needs to hang on to the ball. I think he can do that.

I think they’ll give him 1 more year. The way he moves so smoothly and his agility is special. Imo if he holds onto the ball he’s easily a solid WR3 from a production standpoint.

 

[OldSchool101]

Speaking of Wicks, he reminds me a great deal of young Davante. They are similar size. Davante is just shy of 6’1 and Wicks is just over 6’1”.
Davante was like 212lb and Wicks around 206lb.

Both are above average in explosive traits and lateral movement, but both tested below average in pure speed.

Wicks actually has big 10” Mits so you wouldn’t think he’d have dropsies.

Davante just tore it up in college though averaging 1,500 yards across both freshman and sophomore seasons. However he was at the FCS Division1 level.

Wicks had a 1,200 yard season in his sophomore campaign but at the higher ACC FBS level. In his Junior year (2nd season as a starter) he would’ve likely had over 1,000+ but was marred with an injury and then a shooting on their team bus that left 3 dead. The Cavaliers cancelled the last couple of games in 2022, it was a very violent and unstable finish to a good college career.
I really like Wicks I think he deserves 1 more year to get past this stuff. If he can toss up 1200 yards in his first year as a starter in college in Power 5 football? he’s an animal once he gets clicking. He’s very craft with the ball in his hands he’s able to find space and work it. That shows in his 21 yards per catch number across his only full, 2021 season.

IMO Dontayvion declared 1 year too soon. He really could’ve benefited from another season similar to what Davante had at Fresno State. Although I can understand his circumstances and I certainly don’t fault him for wanting a fresh start or to get paid. IMO Wicks floor is WR4 if he just fixes the concentration drops. Sky is the limit, but it would not shock me if he eventually became perimeter WR2 behind Golden.

 

[Voyageur]

I try to caution people about getting way too enamored with a receiver not being good because of dropped passes. I hear that about several of the Packer receivers. The same was true of Davante Adams his first couple of years. People are putting way too much stock in that figure when it's early in a career. I point out Romeo Doubs as an example. He makes some of the most amazing catches, but people decide to focus on the drops. That's not good football sense but it happens because there are those that don't realize the learning curve coming into the NFL.

I'm glad the Packers didn't dump Adams at the end of two years. I say the same now with Doubs, and other Packer receivers who have had a few drops the last two seasons.

This is an older reddit post, so understand how far he went even after the article.

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