Jonathan Gannon new Packer DC

[Packphin]

It's actually kind of interesting. There's part of me that agrees, he doesn't really have a ton of top level experience yet, and in that way it feels "too early"

But at the same time...part of me says...WHY doesn't he have more experience yet? Or why is he yet to make much of a move "upward"?

For instance, take Christian Parker. A lot of folks had him as one of their top candidates, seen as a young up-and-coming rising star type of guy.

Parker is 34. He's been coaching at the pro level for just ~7 years. And about 6-7 years at the college level before that. Overall he's been in coaching roles since 2013.
Or at lot of folks are interested in Leonhard. He is 43 and has just 2 years of NFL coaching experience. Before that, he had been coaching at the college level for ~8 years. He didn't start coaching until 2016.
We have Daronte Jones, he's 47. He's been coaching in some capacity since 2001, but for quite some time it was at the DII or high school level. He didn't make the move to coaching D1 college until 2010 and only has been coaching at the pro level since 2016.

Compare that to Harris:
He is 51, and went straight into coaching after a 14 year playing career. He came on to the Dolphins staff in 2012. Then he was the Chiefs' assistant DB coach for 2013, 14, 15, and the secondary/cornerbacks coach from 2016-18. After spending a season at FAU he got back into coaching in the league for the Cowboys where he was their DB coach from 2020-2023, before getting promoted to assistant head coach for the 2024 season. This past season for the Bears as their DB coach and defensive pass game coordinator.

So it's weird. In one sense he actually has more pro experience (both as a player AND coach) than guys like Parker or Leonhard, and about as much as Jones...but also has pretty much exclusively just DB coaching experience. He's been coaching for the league for over a decade now, and has seen relatively little "upward" movement. Contrast that with someone like Parker who in the span of just around 5 years being a "defensive quality control coach" for us to being the Broncos DB coach to being the Eagles DB coach and defensive pass game coordinator to being the Cowboys defensive coordinator.

Like I said then - yes he's kind of inexperienced in one sense, but I guess it leaves me wondering...if his coaching acumen/potential is so high, why has he seen relatively little advancement after having been a coach for a pretty respectable amount of time?

Sometimes, the way you present matters. Even if it's not entirely within your control.
Perception is everything.

 

[GreenBaySlacker]

How many of assistant coaches are we losing?

 

[DoURant]

How many of assistant coaches are we losing?

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[DoURant]

...and there it is.

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[DoURant]

Here's a timeline of his coaching experience.

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[OldSchool101]

Here's a timeliness of his coaching experience.

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His last 2 seasons at Philadelphia (2021,2022) he was their DC. Ranking:
18th, 8th Points Allowed

He was essentially a seemless transition from former DC (and former Lions HC) Jim Schwartz, who had just finished with a disappointing #20th scoring allowed season. Although Schwartz was routinely competitive as a DC for them. Finishing as high as #4 ranked.

 

[DoURant]

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[DoURant]

Gannon was also with the Rams from 2009-2011. 1 year as a College Scout, 2 as a Pro Scout.

 

[Firethorn1001]

'Relying on elite cb play'

Well I see one slight problem with that...

At present I'm rather underwhelmed about him as the hire. Maybe I'll read up today and become more optimistic, but presently not there.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Not too early to start a fire Jonathan Gannon thread. While that's meant as a joke, I just don't trust MLF to hire coordinators. His coordinators have been with one or two exceptions, disappointing. Only time, however, will tell if Gannon is OK.

Like the Packers, the Cardinals blew a lot of 4th quarter leads last year. It's why he got canned as a HC. That and his winning percentage below 30% over three seasons. The Cardinals lost 8 games when they had leads or were tied going into the 4th quarter last year.

If you think Gannon is going to change the Packers toxic team culture of a slipping lack of focus and intensity with the game on the line, you may be disappointed if 2025 is an indication.

 

[rdawsoniii]

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Seeing as how our players seem to made of glass and tire easily, this could be addition by subtraction.

 

[Firethorn1001]

Well that didnt help my optimism.

 

[longtimefan]

Gannon, 43, spent two seasons (2021-22) as the Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator. The Eagles finished in the top 10 in total defense in each of those seasons, including second in 2022 when they also led the league in fewest passing yards allowed and sacks while also ranking tied for fourth in interceptions.

 

[Pugger]

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This might not be such of a loss. Our guys are always hurt.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Well that didnt help my optimism.

When I looked into the Cardinals season last year it had a lot of parallels with the Packers. The Cardinals managed to blow a 15 point, 4th quarter leads to rhe Titans of all teams. Gotta hand it to MLF, he loves his chokers.

 

[Pugger]

I'm not going to prejudge this hire until we see how the players respond to him and how they play. I remember folks clutching their pearls when we hired MM.

 

[Sanguine camper]

This might not be such of a loss. Our guys are always hurt.

I think that's called addition by subtraction.

 

[BrokenArrow]

Not too early to start a fire Jonathan Gannon thread. While that's meant as a joke, I just don't trust MLF to hire coordinators. His coordinators have been with one or two exceptions, disappointing. Only time, however, will tell if Gannon is OK.

Like the Packers, the Cardinals blew a lot of 4th quarter leads last year. It's why he got canned as a HC. That and his winning percentage below 30% over three seasons. The Cardinals lost 8 games when they had leads or were tied going into the 4th quarter last year.

If you think Gannon is going to change the Packers toxic team culture of a slipping lack of focus and intensity with the game on the line, you may be disappointed if 2025 is an indication.

Anything positive to add?

 

[AKCheese]

This place is soooooooooo predictable

 

[DoURant]

This place is soooooooooo predictable

Well it was expected, i'd guess that 80% here wanted Leonhard, so anything else was going to bring the hate/skepticism. I'm optimistic, as he was a successful DB coach at Indy, getting him a promotion to DC in Philly, which after two years got him a HC job.... some guys are just not successful HC's, and are better off focusing on what they have a track record of being good at, I hope we get the DC he was in Philly.

 

[Sunshinepacker]

Not too early to start a fire Jonathan Gannon thread. While that's meant as a joke, I just don't trust MLF to hire coordinators. His coordinators have been with one or two exceptions, disappointing. Only time, however, will tell if Gannon is OK.

Like the Packers, the Cardinals blew a lot of 4th quarter leads last year. It's why he got canned as a HC. That and his winning percentage below 30% over three seasons. The Cardinals lost 8 games when they had leads or were tied going into the 4th quarter last year.

If you think Gannon is going to change the Packers toxic team culture of a slipping lack of focus and intensity with the game on the line, you may be disappointed if 2025 is an indication.

Don’t take anything from his time in Arizona as indicative of his defensive scheme…that offense was just so, so bad that no defense would have looked good.

 

[milani]

Here's a timeline of his coaching experience.

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Worked under Zimmer.

 

[milani]

When I looked into the Cardinals season last year it had a lot of parallels with the Packers. The Cardinals managed to blow a 15 point, 4th quarter leads to rhe Titans of all teams. Gotta hand it to MLF, he loves his chokers.

They blew won against us this season, ironically.

 

[AmishMafia]

Well, we probably aren't going to lose him to a HC position anytime soon.

He was really good for the Eagles. Want to listen to the press conference before I judge.