Fire Matt LaFleur

[Magooch]

Harbaugh’s reported “demands” are steep to say the least but setting that aside what’s the argument for continuing with LaFleur rather than Harbaugh? You can make a case that Harbaugh will get you more of the same - regular season success and falling flat in the postseason - but at least Harbaugh has shown he can win it all

 

[OldSchool101]

It’s virtually the same decision he made hosting Tampa down by -8 with multiple timeouts and a 2-min warning. Dillon running the ball 6.1+ per carry.

1st n goal from the Tampa8 and reaching inside the Tampa4 gets you a bonus try. We certainly wouldn’t kick a FG at the Tampa3 needing 8pts would we?

It was 1st n goal from the Tam8 to tie. With over 3 minutes left and 3 clock stops. We laid down and took a FG.

Leave them at the 1 yard line! At least try to score. You’ve still got timeouts snd 2-minute. 2 possession chances to score 8 points! and we literally forfeited 1 for a FG to stay behind -5 points? What the H?!

No less To let Tom Brady and the #3 scoring Offense dictate the outcome? Are you crazy???

I chalked it up to being newer. Yet MLF doesn’t understand Field position vs gameclock vs the score VS WHO HIS OPPONENT IS!!!!

Tom Brady, Pat Mahomes and Caleb Williams are the LAST guys you give up on and play not to lose. You MAYBR can give up and go conservative with Jay Cutler. But NOT Caleb and we already lost 1 game in OT and nearly lost another on his last play and we still don’t get it. Those Guys go for 8pts they play to win

 

[longtimefan]

Harbaugh’s reported “demands” are steep to say the least but setting that aside what’s the argument for continuing with LaFleur rather than Harbaugh? You can make a case that Harbaugh will get you more of the same - regular season success and falling flat in the postseason - but at least Harbaugh has shown he can win it all

13 years ago? With a black out- then gets a mvp and Derick Henry and didn’t go back

That guy?

 

[adambr2]

13 years ago? With a black out- then gets a mvp and Derick Henry and didn’t go back

That guy?

I’m not saying he should be the guy, but he has at least seen what a Lombardi trophy looks like.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Harbaugh deserves credit for winning a Super Bowl with Joe Flacco. The problem is he's had Lamar Jackson and Derick Henry and couldn't get the job done. I don't blame the Ravens brass for finally losing their patience. No doubt he's a better coach than MLF but he might not be the ticket to success anymore.

 

[adambr2]

Here’s the crazy thing:

All of the bounces today went our way — Watson didn’t fumble out of the endzone. Jacobs got his fumble back. Kinnard’s fumble somehow went out of bounds.

And Lafleur STILL managed to blow it.

 

[OldSchool101]

Chicago didn’t Win because they were more talented. Chicago won and almost swept the series because of poor coaching.

Matt is a wonderful playcaller like B+ A- grade. He’s gets a D to D- grade for clock and end of game decisions.

 

[adambr2]

Chicago didn’t Win because they were more talented. Chicago won and almost swept the series because of poor coaching.

Matt is a wonderful playcaller like B+ A- grade. He’s gets a D to D- grade for clock and end of game decisions.

As soon as Matt for whatever reason blew a timeout on DEFENSE with 2 minutes left you just knew that was going to come back to haunt them.

 

[rmontro]

Was that egg huge enough?

You know my main problem with Matt LeFleur? It's not the questionable playcalling or him sticking with his buddy at special teams coach (although that's annoying too). It's that this team just looks SAWFT. They can't play 60 minutes, they choke in the second half, they can't even finish a season anymore (0-3 last year and 0-5 to finish this year). They don't seem to have a philosophy or team identity of toughness.

I'm not even sure I'm sold on Hafley anymore. The team plays one half against the Bears and they are DONE.

 

[OldSchool101]

Now I am fully aware The Brass will try to resign Matt. I think if roll the dice and take a total unknown and I mean that. Unless he wants OC he’s sharpening up his resume cause he’d need it.

 

[Sanguine camper]

Chicago didn’t Win because they were more talented. Chicago won and almost swept the series because of poor coaching.

Matt is a wonderful playcaller like B+ A- grade. He’s gets a D to D- grade for clock and end of game decisions.

MLF is a talented at developing an offense. It shows that he's good with the X's and O's. Where he fails is at management. He can't manage the clock, strategy, his coaching staff not can he manage a team culture.

He'd make a good offensive coordinator. Watching MLF is a perfect example of the Peter principle. Promoted past his level of competence.

 

[DoURant]

Here’s the crazy thing:

All of the bounces today went our way — Watson didn’t fumble out of the endzone. Jacobs got his fumble back. Kinnard’s fumble somehow went out of bounds.

And Lafleur STILL managed to blow it.

We fumbled 4 times, and never lost any. We out rushed the Bears, our QB threw 4 TD's, we won the the turnover battle (+)2, Caleb Williams completed 50% of his passes, and we stopped them 4 times on 4th down. How did we even lose with all of that in our favor?? Answer, this team always finds a way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory, in the Playoffs.

 

[OldSchool101]

As soon as Matt for whatever reason blew a timeout on DEFENSE with 2 minutes left you just knew that was going to come back to haunt them.

Yes. He held that timeout that could’ve been used at 3:00 to keep us at a manageable 3rd n 10 for the Win.
The game was on the line there as Ben had 1 timeout. I literally don’t think Matt was aware of that his opponent was on the ropes.

You’ve got to keep punching. Don’t let him get a breather and let the bell save him until next round. If we get 1st down? Just the clock runoff to 1:20 until 4th down was better than a FG imo. Leave them at the Chi2 losing by 3pts with :70 sec no timeouts.

It also opens the strict possibility Chicago gets 4th n 3 and tries a FG to tie 27-27 and force OT again.. instead of forcing them to convert 4th down and racing for a TD for the Win Chicago had all the momentum

 

[DoURant]

We had two plays with under 5 minutes that were "successful" for first downs, but both stopped the clock, because our receivers ended up going out of bounds. This saved the Bears from taking timeouts, or running more time off the clock. That drive also proceeded to end in a missed FG

 

[rmontro]

MLF is a talented at developing an offense. It shows that he's good with the X's and O's. Where he fails is at management. He can't manage the clock, strategy, his coaching staff not can he manage a team culture.

He'd make a good offensive coordinator. Watching MLF is a perfect example of the Peter principle. Promoted past his level of competence.

I still feel like if we had MLF as offensive coordinator, we'd be left with too much of the same thing.

How did the Bears get a better run game than we have? We have Josh Jacobs, and last year their OL was a joke.

 

[Sanguine camper]

We fumbled 4 times, and never lost any. We out rushed the Bears, our QB threw 4 TD's, we won the the turnover battle (+)2, Caleb Williams completed 50% of his passes, and we stopped them 4 times on 4th down. How did we even lose with all of that in our favor?? Answer, this team always finds a way to snatch defeat out of the hands of victory, in the Playoffs.

Just crazy how you can lose in that situation. The defense showed no heart on the final drive by the Bears and really for the entire 4th quarter. They just looked like they had no energy and had basically quit.

Snatching a defeat from the jaws of victory when you give up 25 points in the 4th quarter might be the most easily explained by watching the body language of the players. The Bears moved the ball at will as if the team just expected to lose and let up.

 

[OldSchool101]

Maybe I’m crazy. But let me ask your guys opinion?

It’s 27-24 Packers 3:02 gameclock

Ben has 1 Timeout + 2-min

It’s 3rd n 10 from the Chi21

If we get even?? 6 yards? ? It’s 4th n 4 from the Chi16 and Chicago burns their last timeout.

Up 3pts at 2:54 gameclock do you

1. try a FG to go up +6?? (Giving Chicago nearly 3 minutes)

Or

2. go on 4th n 4 etc. to put the game away??

 

[BrokenArrow]

I'm not even sure I'm sold on Hafley anymore. The team plays one half against the Bears and they are DONE.

Hafley has an impossible situation. He loses our two best pass rushers in November which leaves our awful CBs completely exposed. Not many DCs could have done much better. He took Barry's defense and turned them into top 10 in one season. He's good.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I still feel like if we had MLF as offensive coordinator, we'd be left with too much of the same thing.

How did the Bears get a better run game than we have? We have Josh Jacobs, and last year their OL was a joke.

That's a great question. I think the offensive lines are both good but not great but people who know a lot about the finer points of offensive line blocking can probably figure out the answer.

 

[BrokenArrow]

As soon as Matt for whatever reason blew a timeout on DEFENSE with 2 minutes left you just knew that was going to come back to haunt them.

His second half play calling is abysmal. As soon as we get a two score lead in the second half he immediately goes into clock killing mode with predictable runs and short passes. He has no killer instinct at all.

 

[pacmaniac]

From now on I will be calling him Matt TheFlower.

 

[Snoops]

Lafleur has to go can’t have it.
I’d say Stefanski, Hafley, and I’m going to throw McCarthy in the mix as well never say never.
My personal choice would be Hafley and hire McDaniels as OC

 

[adambr2]

This team needs a new identity completely.

It’s still an attractive job and I really think at this point you just need to start fresh and clean house.

 

[gopkrs]

His second half play calling is abysmal. As soon as we get a two score lead in the second half he immediately goes into clock killing mode with predictable runs and short passes. He has no killer instinct at all.

Agreed

 

[DABIGZ]

13 years ago? With a black out- then gets a mvp and Derick Henry and didn’t go back

Chicago didn’t Win because they were more talented. Chicago won and almost swept the series because of poor coaching.

Matt is a wonderful playcaller like B+ A- grade. He’s gets a D to D- grade for clock and end of game decisions.

So, ready to have that conversation Oldschool?

I’m trying to be rude, but you’ve been a big cheerleader of LaFleur and the team. So lets talk.