Fire Matt LaFleur

[Firethorn1001]

You would think so, wouldn't you? And most people around here like Notre Dame.

Ah.. good points. Wasn't considering that Indiana has multiple D1 football programs. Used to WI where it is the only game in town for college football.

 

[DoURant]

This surprises me. I would think just by default you would hear something. Not like they are Ohio State where it might be a little 'ho hum'. I would think there would be massive talk everywhere about them where you would know just by being alive in Indiana...

Speaking of Ohio St... O...HI..O finished the season 0-2 after beating their heated rival Michigan for the first time in 4 years. The aforementioned Indiana Hoosiers beating them in the Big10 Championship game, along with the Miami Hurricanes knocking them out of the Playoffs last night, sure makes me sad.... lololololololol.

I'm hoping my Wolverines can turn things around in Ann Arbor, after this year's disappointment on the field along with the prior coaches poor choices. The new coach, Kyle Whittingham, who had quite a bit of success at Utah, will hopefully right the ship quickly. I guess time will tell, but beating Ohio St is the bar he will need to eventually hit, to stay employed.

 

[Firethorn1001]

The aforementioned Indiana Hoosiers beating them in the Big10 Championship game, along with the Miami Hurricanes knocking them out of the Playoffs last night, sure makes me sad.... lololololololol.

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[milani]

I live in Indiana, but I rarely watch college football so I haven't noticed them. I see they're rated #1, wow that surprises me. That coach must be something, because IU is not usually known as a big football power.

14-0. Historic!

 

[Sanguine camper]

14-0. Historic!

Cignetti is proof positive that the power of a great coach is still a massive difference maker. He turned around a terrible football program in one year. Kind of like the Lombardi story. While I'm not saying he's anything close to Vince yet, his no nonsense, excel at fundamentals style is still a ticket to success.

 

[OldSchool101]

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So true

I’m a hybrid fan. That’s me during the game. But at least I come to my senses and revert back to guy #1. lol

 

[Half Empty]

I want the Univ.of Indiana college football coach as soon as we are done. This man is a no-nonsense type coach and really knows what to do.
Critique all you want. He has what mlf doesn't.

Does he have what MLF does have?

 

[Pugger]

I'm not sure that LaFleur is the main culprit here, but I'll leave it at that.

What is interesting is that IF Policy lets Matt LaFleur go, the Packers would surely be the most coveted HC job in the NFL. It's a turnkey Super Bowl team. I'm not sure if there is another Ben Johnson out there, but who knows!

If Policy wants to go in another direction he will wipe the slate clean and move on from both Gute and MLF. This should be a very interesting offseason especially if we again one and done in this post season.

 

[Pugger]

Discipline vs dumb penalties
Rich needs role diminished or canned

Those two things if I'm Gute are carved into the drywall of MLF's office as to do items....

Unfortunately it isn't just a ST issue with discipline and dumb penalties. We see these problems on O + D. :-(

 

[Pugger]

18 teams have went for 25 or more fourth downs. Only 9 have converted more than we have.

My issue with going for it on 4th down has a lot to do with the situation. I hate it when early in a game - on the road - we pass on a chip shot FG to take the lead. Then we are chasing points the rest of the game. I don't think it is wise to go for it on your side of 50. Campbell in Detroit is known to do this and it came back to bite him in the backside. But the biggest boneheaded move by MLF was going for it on the 11 yard line facing 4th and EIGHT instead of a FG early in the 4th quarter. I about lost it.

 

[Pugger]

Last year, the Lions and Vikings were much better teams and the Packers came up short against good teams like usual.

This year, the Vikings were abysmal for much of the season due to QB woes and the Lions have once again had their share of injuries not to mention the devastating early retirement of a HOF talent on the O line.

The Packers are better in the division but they sure haven't improved. They added Micah Parsons and have gotten worse. As I've pointed out before, that takes a special kind if incompetence to add a HOF pass rusher and get worse.

Anyone who posted the Packers couldn't win a big game in 2024, has every reason to continue that claim in 2025. The only thing that's changed is some of the teams in those big games.

You aren't being fair. If you lose a HOF pass rusher your defense is gonna struggle. We had a top 10 D before he hurt.

 

[chemist]

. I'm not sure if there is another Ben Johnson out there, but who knows!

Curt Cignetti

 

[tynimiller]

I want the Univ.of Indiana college football coach as soon as we are done. This man is a no-nonsense type coach and really knows what to do.
Critique all you want. He has what mlf doesn't.

Cignetti is one of the most arrogant coaches in the entire sport - I want no part of that.

And I’m a Hoosier resident myself and loving they’re relevant again…but no. I’ve had coaches like him coach my team before and it sucks…Brian Kelly coached my Irish for years and it is a very weird feeling wanting your coach to get a loss but your team win somehow.

 

[Magooch]

Cignetti has of course been great for Indiana but I don't see him as being much of an NFL "prospect" as it were.

He's already 64 and that's old for a first-time NFL coach to begin with. But on top of that he has quite literally ZERO NFL experience... not as a coach or as a player. College-to-NFL transitions have a generally spotty record overall... and that's including the guys who have prior NFL experience and are likely younger too. I'm sure there would be some teams who might be somewhat interested but overall I think it's not an accident that you hear very little league buzz around him. If there were a younger guy who had some league experience getting the same results he would be the hottest name in the cycle IMO

But beyond that he also has an EXTREMELY favorable contract at Indiana right now. He just signed it back in October and it's 8 years, 93 million, but I'm pretty sure the actual value is much higher than that.

He gets a base salary of $500k each year but additional "marketing, promotional, and outside income" push it closer to a total package of $10,000,000 per year.

Every year he gets a $1,000,000 "retention bonus" that jumps up to $1,250,000 starting from 2029.

He got a $250,000 signing bonus, and a $200,000 bonus for any NON-CFP bowl appearance plus an extra $50,000 for a NON-CFP bowl win.

He gets $100,000 for 5 Big 10 wins in a season or $150,000 for 6. Finishing Top 6 in the Big 10 gets him $250,000; finishing 2nd gets him $500,000, and winning the Big 10 is an extra $1,000,000.

And on top of that... $500,000 for making the CFP first round; $600,000 for making the quarterfinal; $700,000 for making the semifinal; $1,000,000 for national runner-up; and $2,000,000 for a national championship.

There is also a buyout that starts at $15,000,000 between now and November of 2026. It drops by 2-3m for the next few years but isn't totally gone until 2032.

AND on top of that he gets a "Good faith market review" after making the CFP which basically says the university has to ensure that so long as he makes the CFP he is paid no worse than 3rd-highest amongst CFP-eligible coaches.

SO with all that considered... at a bare minimum of 10m per year that's already an "upper half" NFL coach's salary. Why would he give all that up to take a job in a totally new league knowing that he will have FAR less guarantees and far less patience? I just don't see it...

 

[chemist]

Cignetti is one of the most arrogant coaches in the entire sport - I want no part of that.

And I’m a Hoosier resident myself and loving they’re relevant again…but no. I’ve had coaches like him coach my team before and it sucks…Brian Kelly coached my Irish for years and it is a very weird feeling wanting your coach to get a loss but your team win somehow.

Lucky for you that you dont have to suit up and go out on the field.

If what you say is true then why are his players not revolting and leaving the team.
From what I saw after IU detroyed alabama his players seem motivated,excited and happy to be on the team.

From what Ive read his style is based on high accountability and his players seem to be very loyal to that style. Just do your job is his mantra and he doesnt care if you are a senior or a freshman, the best players get to play.

Sometimes his high confidence is seen as arrogance, especially by the losing team, but it doesnt seem any different than ben johnson's quote about beating MLF 2x in one year. Just a way to show confidence to your players.

 

[El Guapo]

Sometimes his high confidence is seen as arrogance, especially by the losing team, but it doesnt seem any different than ben johnson's quote about beating MLF 2x in one year. Just a way to show confidence to your players.

100%.

I've talked with people that don't like Cignetti because he is "arrogant." Who cares what fans think! It's what he does for the team and whether the team respects the coach. I loved his statement after the game last night, when the reporter asked if the moment may be too big for his team. His response: “Why should the moment be too big? Because our name’s Indiana?”

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Arrogant? I say he's defiant. That's why his team would run through a brick wall for him.

 

[chemist]

Cignetti has of course been great for Indiana but I don't see him as being much of an NFL "prospect" as it were.

He's already 64 and that's old for a first-time NFL coach to begin with. But on top of that he has quite literally ZERO NFL experience... not as a coach or as a player. College-to-NFL transitions have a generally spotty record overall... and that's including the guys who have prior NFL experience and are likely younger too. I'm sure there would be some teams who might be somewhat interested but overall I think it's not an accident that you hear very little league buzz around him. If there were a younger guy who had some league experience getting the same results he would be the hottest name in the cycle IMO

But beyond that he also has an EXTREMELY favorable contract at Indiana right now. He just signed it back in October and it's 8 years, 93 million, but I'm pretty sure the actual value is much higher than that.

He gets a base salary of $500k each year but additional "marketing, promotional, and outside income" push it closer to a total package of $10,000,000 per year.

Every year he gets a $1,000,000 "retention bonus" that jumps up to $1,250,000 starting from 2029.

He got a $250,000 signing bonus, and a $200,000 bonus for any NON-CFP bowl appearance plus an extra $50,000 for a NON-CFP bowl win.

He gets $100,000 for 5 Big 10 wins in a season or $150,000 for 6. Finishing Top 6 in the Big 10 gets him $250,000; finishing 2nd gets him $500,000, and winning the Big 10 is an extra $1,000,000.

And on top of that... $500,000 for making the CFP first round; $600,000 for making the quarterfinal; $700,000 for making the semifinal; $1,000,000 for national runner-up; and $2,000,000 for a national championship.

There is also a buyout that starts at $15,000,000 between now and November of 2026. It drops by 2-3m for the next few years but isn't totally gone until 2032.

AND on top of that he gets a "Good faith market review" after making the CFP which basically says the university has to ensure that so long as he makes the CFP he is paid no worse than 3rd-highest amongst CFP-eligible coaches.

SO with all that considered... at a bare minimum of 10m per year that's already an "upper half" NFL coach's salary. Why would he give all that up to take a job in a totally new league knowing that he will have FAR less guarantees and far less patience? I just don't see it...

Cignetti has of course been great for Indiana but I don't see him as being much of an NFL "prospect" as it were.

He's already 64 and that's old for a first-time NFL coach to begin with. But on top of that he has quite literally ZERO NFL experience... not as a coach or as a player. College-to-NFL transitions have a generally spotty record overall... and that's including the guys who have prior NFL experience and are likely younger too. I'm sure there would be some teams who might be somewhat interested but overall I think it's not an accident that you hear very little league buzz around him. If there were a younger guy who had some league experience getting the same results he would be the hottest name in the cycle IMO

But beyond that he also has an EXTREMELY favorable contract at Indiana right now. He just signed it back in October and it's 8 years, 93 million, but I'm pretty sure the actual value is much higher than that.

He gets a base salary of $500k each year but additional "marketing, promotional, and outside income" push it closer to a total package of $10,000,000 per year.

Every year he gets a $1,000,000 "retention bonus" that jumps up to $1,250,000 starting from 2029.

He got a $250,000 signing bonus, and a $200,000 bonus for any NON-CFP bowl appearance plus an extra $50,000 for a NON-CFP bowl win.

He gets $100,000 for 5 Big 10 wins in a season or $150,000 for 6. Finishing Top 6 in the Big 10 gets him $250,000; finishing 2nd gets him $500,000, and winning the Big 10 is an extra $1,000,000.

And on top of that... $500,000 for making the CFP first round; $600,000 for making the quarterfinal; $700,000 for making the semifinal; $1,000,000 for national runner-up; and $2,000,000 for a national championship.

There is also a buyout that starts at $15,000,000 between now and November of 2026. It drops by 2-3m for the next few years but isn't totally gone until 2032.

AND on top of that he gets a "Good faith market review" after making the CFP which basically says the university has to ensure that so long as he makes the CFP he is paid no worse than 3rd-highest amongst CFP-eligible coaches.

SO with all that considered... at a bare minimum of 10m per year that's already an "upper half" NFL coach's salary. Why would he give all that up to take a job in a totally new league knowing that he will have FAR less guarantees and far less patience? I just don't see it...

Good summary in his current status

Thats to bad. Certainly alot of money to give up. I guess its would come down to where his priorities lie. Does he want to be a college coach the rest of his life or does he want to stretch his legs and try the big leagues.

 

[tynimiller]

Lucky for you that you dont have to suit up and go out on the field.

If what you say is true then why are his players not revolting and leaving the team.
From what I saw after IU detroyed alabama his players seem motivated,excited and happy to be on the team.

From what Ive read his style is based on high accountability and his players seem to be very loyal to that style. Just do your job is his mantra and he doesnt care if you are a senior or a freshman, the best players get to play.

Sometimes his high confidence is seen as arrogance, especially by the losing team, but it doesnt seem any different than ben johnson's quote about beating MLF 2x in one year. Just a way to show confidence to your players.

Okay I think you’re misunderstanding massively what I said and applying it hilariously inaccurately.

Someone can be against such an arrogancy as he and Kelly or others exhibit and yet those coaches still see success.

I’m struggling to understand how you even made that leap of what I said to “how are his players not revolting” and such…you do understand there are massively different types of coaches that see amazing successes?

Not everyone coaches with a style of say Tony Dungy as an example.

 

[JoePack]

At age 64 and what they're paying him, he probably will sit tight at Indiana but regardless of his so-called arrogant attitude as inferred earlier, I applaud Indiana for their foresight and willingness to reach for a championship.

I have nothing personal against mlf, I just don't believe he's the man to get the job done at GB. Time will tell. Of course it did take awhile to realize we needed a different defensive corrodinator. ST coord? At some point the boss has to make a decision.

 

[milani]

Does he have with MLF does have?

His press conferences are better.

 

[chemist]

Cignetti is one of the most arrogant coaches in the entire sport - I want no part of that.

 

[chemist]

It seems to me i was right on the money

 

[DoURant]

I like what Parsons told Diggs about playing here vs Dallas.

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[Sanguine camper]

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Does he have what MLF does have?

Good luck getting Cignetti! With what he's done at James Madison and now at Indiana, he'll be able to go anywhere he wants at any price. That said, I would think his approach would work at any level.

 

[Sanguine camper]

I'll take his winning! If his no-nonsense style is construed as arrogance, I'll take that too since it translates to teams that play outstanding fundamental football. In contrast to what we see with the Packers.

After the Ravens game, MLF commented that he didn't know if the reason why the Ravens ran the ball down the Packers throat was due to players who could've been out of position. How in the world can players be out of position in week 17 other than not knowing their assignments, not reading the plays correctly, or completely botching the defensive call.

Those mistakes point to a cavalier attitude towards getting the basics down right.