At least 20 times since 1967 the MVP has appeared in the Super Bowl, so over 35% of the time. Don't care to cross-reference CCG participants to the MVP list but I'm willing to guess it's around 50%. Not necessary, but tends to lead to success.
Thanks, I had a hunch, but didn't want to do the legwork to once again disapprove a worthless claim that someone was trying to use to make a damning statement about Rodgers with.At least 20 times since 1967 the MVP has appeared in the Super Bowl, so over 35% of the time. Don't care to cross-reference CCG participants to the MVP list but I'm willing to guess it's around 50%. Not necessary, but tends to lead to success.
which apparently says that, although the numbers support the original contention, you feel that they actually disprove it. Need a hand in seeing how you got there.
lol… this stat it just the MVP for that year. It does not include all MVP caliber players invoved… For example…This year the 8 division round playoff teams included 6 MVP caliber Qbs (Rodgers, Mahomes ,Burrow,Brady, Allen, and Stafford… Plus Derrick Henry at RB for one team who also has been mentioned as an MVP candidate at times. So 5 of 8 teams had MVP caliber QBS… 6 if you include Stafford…. yeah that ones a stretch… the others not so much.
Hang on, be careful. It isn't fair to run a study analyzing past actual MVPs in one post and then downgrade that to just MVP caliber guys - those are two very different things.
OK, no argument there. Just not the way it came across in previous posts.
All I can do is work with the posts I'm given. Your contention certainly might be true, but it's defending a point that wasn't made.
I’m not running a study … I’m getting to the underlying point. The implication is that you can win a Super bowl without a great QB. This is obviously true… it is also unlikely. Half empty was trying to say that the above stat didn’t prove this because of the fact that there are many Superbowl winners that did not have that years MVP. I’m simply pointing out that it is actually very significant considering the fact that half of them were… Now you can look at the ones that didn’t and realize that they actually did in most cases have that top QB as well.
Right, I was just making a point that the Rodgers situation will not be a long drawn out process.
It would be far wiser to keep Lazard over Cobb.
It could be if we keep him another year!
I don't think it will be for just another year though. I'd never advocate going for just 1 more year. It will be multiple years or he is gone.
I think the 2021 season WAS the just 1 more year. I also don’t think Rodgers entertains anything less than essentially 3 years mostly guaranteed (possibly including the 2022 season) He’s very well aware this is his last big payday.
Strange, she's never says anything like that when she's with me.
I'm guessing the one time was enough with you.
Actually, I think having a great running game and defense is by far the most important ingredient in a great football team (obviously you need balance, you can't be too weak at any position, but the vast majority of great teams, including most super bowl winners, have had a great defense and running game). There have been many more super bowl winners with a great defense/running game vs. those with an elite QB/passing game and an average defense/running game.
Who said it was one time. Do you know where she is right now?I'm guessing the one time was enough with you.
At the neighbors house, but I can clearly see her in the bedroom with my telescope.
