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Brett admits he was at fault?????

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by longtimefan, Jun 7, 2013.

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  1. mayo44

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    I highly doubt he needs any blokes to defend his honor. Odd that you feel the need to do so when he is both perfectly capable to doing so on his own behalf and apparently doesn't feel the need to do so himself, but whatever.


    GOOD! :tup:
     
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  2. buggybill2003

    buggybill2003 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Blokes !!! was that an attempt at a put down ???....pmsl. I`d hazard a guess you did a lot of debating at college. Possibly even a mass debater some might say ?
     
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  3. JBlood

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    Favre says a lot of stuff, so you have to accept what he does as a true measure of his thinking. Within a month of "retirement" ("I've got nothing left..") Sam Farmer of the LA Times reported that Favre's agent was shopping him around the league. Denied, of course, by Bus Cook. The rest is history. Talking to the Yikes on a Packers' phone, talking to the Lions, talk, talk, talk. Then playing the "retirement" ploy with the Jets (oh, by the way, I need my release during my retirement) in order to sign with his new favorite team. Bottom line: if the Packers try to have a ceremony at Lambeau to retire no. 4 anytime in the next decade it will be embarrassing for both parties for the boos that come raining down.
     
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  4. PackerFlatLander

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    If it were up to me, the Packers would wait until Rodgers is done playing. Retire Rodgers' number first. Then tell Favre we can't retire any more numbers, lol.
     
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  5. PackFanNChiTown

    PackFanNChiTown Bear Fan's Bane

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    Did you ever say "sounds like someone's got a case of the Mondays?"
     
  6. PackerFlatLander

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    Huh? What? No,man. I believe you'd get your as$ kicked saying something like that.
     
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  7. ThxJackVainisi

    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

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    This is my last post on this subject until there are additional facts to comment upon. As I posted before, no one is changing anyone's mind on this subject and unless mayo44 is going for the record of most posts on a thread, what's the point? BTW, mayo44 posts with the fervor of one of the so-called Packers fans who embarrassed themselves protesting in favor of Favre back in 2008. (I'm not saying he was, only that he posts as if he were.)
    You aren't offering any scrutiny. Your "argument" can be boiled down to 'it will happen eventually' and 'Murphy, Thompson, and Rodgers are OK with it so all of you have to be too (or you're petty and bitter)'. BTW reconcile "everyone is entitled to their opinion" with the nonsense you've posted (listed in my previous post) and get back to me. (Better yet, don't.)
    I have the highest regard for Thompson, I just don't pretend to read his mind as you do. BTW I only pointed out your absurd statement, "…I guarantee you with absolute certainty…". By that statement, you were guaranteeing with absolute certainty what someone else is thinking. That's about as foolish as it gets: It's something you can't possibly know.
    Read over what you've posted. You're calling posters names and demanding everyone believe as you do but you're OK with it happening sometime within the next 3 years? Then why all the emotion and mischaracterization - there's plenty of time, right?
    This is another example of your misdirection and warped thinking on this subject. Favre has admitted he was partially at fault, right? How about he apologize for that? He also should apologize for stabbing the Packers and their fans in the back as has been detailed in this thread and elsewhere.
    Thompson has nothing to apologize for - all he did was deal with someone in his mid-30s as if he were an adult. I assign no blame to Thompson for that ending up not to be true.
    You post as if that's not true. There is plenty of evidence not to believe what Favre says and your posting in this thread is evidence not to believe this statement.
    First, I harbor no "bitter resentment" towards Favre. I've never started a thread about him and I only think about him when someone else brings him up. When I do think of him, I consider him a traitor to the franchise that made him rich and famous. Second, unlike you I don't have a problem with others having a different opinion, but as a Packers fan I am also an aggrieved party and I think for myself. And here's another concept you may struggle with: Whether or not Eva Kor forgave mengele has no bearing upon my forgiving him. Again, I almost never think about mengele but when I do I think of him as the personification of evil and feel no need to forgive him.

    Over two years ago I wrote this post on Favre. There's a "tricky" analogy in the post so be careful reading it. (Or don't.) http://www.packerforum.com/threads/retiring-favres-4.22286/page-3#post-301963

    BTW, I am not the forum "police" regarding anything. Like every other poster I pick and choose what and who I respond to. I'm responding to you on this thread because IMO your posting on this subject has been ridiculous.

    Finally, my name isn't "Jack" and neither is my forum name. ThxJackVainisi is an homage to Jack Vainisi who was mostly responsible for providing the talent Lombardi maximized. He's mostly a forgotten yet a crucial participant in Packers history. It's not a big deal but I would appreciate it if when referencing me you all would use either "TJV" or "Thx" in honor of Vainisi.
     
  8. mayo44

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    No, actually it wasn't. I just find it hilarious that you think you need to fight other people's battles for them, especially when no real battle actually exists.
     
  9. mayo44

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    And that will be the day Packer fans join the ranks of Eagle fans. That said, I doubt that's what'll happen, as long as they do it before the majority of the attendees are drunk yet.
     
  10. PackFanNChiTown

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    Since I'm not trying to convince anyone else of my suspicions, (or care what anyone else thinks), I think "because I say so" works quite well here. :)
     
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  11. PackFanNChiTown

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    Yeah cuz THAT'S not a classic case of "I'm right and you all are wrong..."
     
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  12. PackFanNChiTown

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    I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man.

    That's it? If you had a million dollars, you'd do two chicks at the same time?


    D**n straight. I always wanted to do that, man. And I think if I were a millionaire I could hook that up, too; 'cause chicks dig dudes with money.


    Well, not all chicks.


    Well, the type of chicks that'd double up on a dude like me do.

    Good point...
     
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  13. PackFanNChiTown

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    If the rat fink doesn't handle the situation correctly it will. It's easy to schmooze the front office, he's going to have to do something concrete to convince the fans he's sincere...more than what's been done so far.

    (Pause for the "he's already done enough..." "what do you want, public flogging?" "You're just being petty" rebuttals)...
     
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  14. mayo44

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    You missed the point. What he did to her was infinitely worse that what Favre ever did to anyone remotely associated with the Packers. The reason she did so was because it was the only way for her to find peace of mind again. She was practically shunned for a while by most of her fellow Auschwitz survivors. They continue to be haunted by thoughts of the past every day, while Mrs. Kor has finally been able to put it behind her and enjoy her life. There are parallels. And no, before someone tries to go there, I'm no Eva Kor and neither is any of the other Packer fans who are ready to move on and stop dwelling in the past.

    BTW, I referred to you as "Jack" because I DON'T KNOW YOUR REAL NAME. I thought that was obvious enough because yes, I'm well aware who Jack Vainisi was.

    Finally, some words from the wise and I'm done:

    'Forgiveness may be the greatest virtue on earth, and certainly the most needed'Gordon B Hinkley
    'The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.'Mahatma Gandhi
    'To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.'Lewis B. Smedes

    Peace to you all.
     
  15. mayo44

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    Correction: "some fans" not "the fans"
     
  16. longtimefan

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    I love this thread..

    But it may come time to lock it...
     
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  17. PackerFlatLander

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    Believe it or not ... even I get tired of my own Favre nonsense, lol.
     
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  18. PackFanNChiTown

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    Here's another:

    Favre is a prima donna with a Messiah complex who fell in love with the sound of his own name. "PackFanInChiTown
     
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  19. PackFanNChiTown

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    Here's some better evidence via logical conclusion:
    Favre's history of saying one thing then doing another leads many to conclude he is a liar.
    You use as evidence a quote made by Favre.
    Many fans are logically suspicious of taking the man's words at face value, based on his history, and desire more proof before they believe him.

    It's nice that you take everything he says at face value but not everyone else does. We're able to acknowledge Favre could be lying about this topic, you don't seem to be able to because you're argument so far seems to be: "Favre said it so you have no evidence..."
     
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  20. buggybill2003

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    I`m special obviously, I`m one of the 1% :roflmao:
     
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  21. mayo44

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    What kind of proof are you talking about? Apparently, your whole spiel about apologies is contrived drivel because what would it matter if you wouldn't believe him anyway?
     
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    I'm getting there. What it boils down to is this thing will be resolved soon enough (before Canton for sure) and few fans are just going to have to get used to the idea that the Packers moved on without them.
     
  23. PackFanNChiTown

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    More than what he's said/done so far. Let him appear at a charity event on neutral ground with Ted or Mike. Maybe he can 1-2 more appearances/announcements where he issues a sincere apology to the fans.

    It comes down to wanting to see/hear more than what he's demonstrated so far.

    Contrived drivel? Tsk tsk tsk...
     
  24. JBlood

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    buggy--amazing insight for a Brit!! :tup:
     
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  25. longtimefan

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    Brett has flip flopped on quotes..

    Or as I been told, he just changed his mind :)
     
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