1. Welcome to Green Bay Packers NFL Football Forum & Community!
    Packer Forum is one of the largest online communities for the Green Bay Packers.

    You are currently viewing our community forums as a guest user.

    Sign Up or

    Having an account grants you additional privileges, such as creating and participating in discussions. Furthermore, we hide most of the ads once you register as a member!
  2. Announcement is LIVE: Read the Forum Post

Would you lose your mind?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by ivo610, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    Cheeseheadtv has an article up where they discuss the pack might be in play for a 1st round center. Am I the only one who would be annoyed by that, if it happened?
     
  2. ExpatPacker

    ExpatPacker Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2011
    Messages:
    1,323
    Ratings:
    +519
    I don't see a clear 1st rounder out there at OC. Richburg and Swanson are 2nd rounders. Unless the Packers trade back it would be silly.
     
  3. thisisnate

    thisisnate Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2012
    Messages:
    365
    Ratings:
    +216
    Cheeseheadtv is flat out wrong then. There are no centers in this draft worthy of a 1st round selection, and unless your owner/gm/godcomplex/coach/captainoftheship is Jerry Jones, there are few years at all when a center is going to really be worth a 1st round pick.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  4. AmishMafia

    AmishMafia Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2010
    Messages:
    2,599
    Ratings:
    +1,862
    This looks like this level of analysis:

    1. Packers lost their starting center
    2. Packers need a center
    3. Packers may draft a center in the 1st.

    There is logic there, its extraordinary (gets lots of clicks) and if in case it works out that way (very doubtful) you can do some chest thumping that you had it right; and if you are wrong: 'They targeted xxxxx in the first, and if (insert name of the actual pick here) was gone, xxxxx would have been the pick.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  5. captainWIMM

    captainWIMM Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,839
    Ratings:
    +2,578
    There´s no center worth of being drafted in the first round. I would be fine with the Packers drafting one in the later rounds to compete with Tretter.
     
  6. ivo610

    ivo610 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2010
    Messages:
    16,168
    Ratings:
    +4,098
    Im right there with you in using the mid rounds for depth/possible starter, but apparently several teams are eying up
    Colorado State C Weston Richburg early as the 1st round according to the cheeseheadtv report
     
  7. captainWIMM

    captainWIMM Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,839
    Ratings:
    +2,578
    I´m fine with some other team taking Richburg in the first round, especially if the one drafts in front of the Packers and increases our chances that Mosley and Clinton-Dix are there at #21, but I don´t want the Packers to be that team.
     
  8. NelsonsLongCatch

    NelsonsLongCatch Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2008
    Messages:
    2,217
    Ratings:
    +626
    The guy would have to be one hell of a center to be drafted in the first round. Centers typically don't get drafted in the first round and I really can't see Thompson drafting a first round center. It seems the Packers don't value center too highly since this year's starter will be the fourth guy in four years.

    I don't see the Packers doing this.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  9. yooperpackfan

    yooperpackfan Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2005
    Messages:
    794
    Ratings:
    +355
    I wouldn't lose my mind, but I would think Ted lost his if he drafted a center in the 1st round.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  10. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    3,758
    Ratings:
    +1,030
    Only because there isn't a C worthy of a 1st round pick. Carriveau is an idiot who should be ignored whenever he talks anything remotely draft related. His logic is that Dallas reached for Frederick, therefore we'll reach. Because Jerry Jones has been such a peerless example of excellent drafting whenever Jimmie Johnson and Bill Polian weren't picking for him. :rolleyes:
     
  11. PackfanFB

    PackfanFB Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2014
    Messages:
    24
    Ratings:
    +7
    This. Here's to hoping that a team takes a C ahead of us, along with all the QBs possible. More players to drop to us.
     
  12. Pack-12

    Pack-12 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2013
    Messages:
    128
    Ratings:
    +60
    If we draft a C in the 1st round I'll just assume we got a really good C.
     
    • Disagree Disagree x 4
  13. ThxJackVainisi

    ThxJackVainisi Lifelong Packers Fanatic

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2011
    Messages:
    4,043
    Ratings:
    +3,126
    It’s hard for me to imagine Thompson & staff rating a center highly enough to take him in the first round. On a recent Sidelines show, Jason Wilde said the Packers are extremely high on Tretter. He said someone on the staff said they really like his strength and intelligence. McCarthy has mentioned Barclay, Lang, and even Sitton as potential OCs, but I’ll bet Tretter is option #1 by a large margin.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. El Guapo

    El Guapo Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Messages:
    2,593
    Ratings:
    +1,466
    I hope that this was TT leaking his "thought" to the media so that a center-hungry team trades up for our pick. So much of the "news" about the draft right now is gamesmanship and subterfuge amongst the teams. It's like the fans are muskies biting on worms. That bait isn't meant for us
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  15. Carl

    Carl Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,788
    Ratings:
    +1,037
    Well, if he passes on a center who ends up the next Matt Birk and picks a player who isn't as good at a different position, we'd be saying in a few years he shouldn't have passed.

    He's got to pick the best player available or trade down for more value.
     
  16. rodell330

    rodell330 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2012
    Messages:
    2,990
    Ratings:
    +1,012
    If the center can play mlb, safety, and tight end well then sure why not!?!
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  17. Einstein McFly

    Einstein McFly Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2012
    Messages:
    381
    Ratings:
    +235
    I'd be surprised if TT drafted a guy who played center in college in any round. He drafts college left tackles and plays them elsewhere. I doubt they'd have let EDS go if they didn't think that Tretter was 100% up to it. Or maybe Lane Taylor is looking really good. Or maybe Barclay. Center is an easy place to plug in a guy. No need to draft one in the first, almost ever. Frank Winters was a 10th round pick. Scott Wells was a 7th.
     
  18. jaybadger82

    jaybadger82 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2012
    Messages:
    810
    Ratings:
    +387
    Yes. The idea of pissing away value by reaching for a center that would probably be available later in the draft would annoy the **** out of me.

    It's one thing to have a prospect high on your board and another thing altogether to disregard how that prospect is rated by others (i.e., market value). See my criticism of the Trettor selection last year. We reached a bit for him in the middle rounds last year. Why the hell would we reach for another center in the first round this year?
     
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2014
    • Agree Agree x 1
  19. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    3,758
    Ratings:
    +1,030
    Matt Birk played Tackle in college. Ted has drafted a non-Tackle Center before, so I'd assume there's no objection from him to do so. Tretter has some real elite measurables and went to an ivy league school, compare the kid to Maurkice Pouncey on paper and let the jaw drop.
     
  20. Carl

    Carl Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,788
    Ratings:
    +1,037
    Didn't know Birk was a tackle coming out. I agree that taking a tackle and converting him is the way to go if they are looking for another center. The tackles are the best athletes.
     
  21. thequick12

    thequick12 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2014
    Messages:
    176
    Ratings:
    +34
    I just don't think Clinton Dix gonna be very good. Mosley cool but I wouldn't be happy if we took Dix at 21 and I damn sure wouldn't be happy if we took a center. We need an impact player at 21 whether it be Ebron or Beckham on offense or Mosley or Shazier on defense.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  22. bozz_2006

    bozz_2006 Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2006
    Messages:
    4,571
    Ratings:
    +650
    what makes you think I haven't already?
     
  23. HyponGrey

    HyponGrey Caseus Locutus Est

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2012
    Messages:
    3,758
    Ratings:
    +1,030
    Actually this year there are more Guards with <4.7 cones and <7.7 shuttles and <100 broads. At least guys I have projected to Guard on my board. It's been a long offseason with a lot of tape...
     
  24. captainWIMM

    captainWIMM Cheesehead

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2012
    Messages:
    5,839
    Ratings:
    +2,578
    Yet the best centers playing in the NFL are former college centers.
     
  25. FrankRizzo

    FrankRizzo Cheesehead

    Joined:
    May 2, 2010
    Messages:
    5,889
    Ratings:
    +1,679
    LMFAO!!!
    So CheeseheadTV has some computer hacker, secret agent, who's gotten access to "several teams" secretive boards?

    I'm sure Ted Thompson and Reggie McKenzie and John Schneider have posted their plans and rankings on a cloud.
     

Share This Page