Will The Packers Making the Playoffs?

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The idea that any veterans sleeps on the street is ridiculous.
As long as you weren't dishonorably discharged, I feel any former vet should be able to show up at any military base in the country and get a shower, be seen by a doctor and get food and a place to sleep.
At the very least, and I do mean the absolute very least..... we owe them that.....
 

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We lose too many this way. People don't understand that you don't have to talk, just listen to them. Let them unload. Be the sounding board and be supportive. Only they can kill the demons. Some never do and live with it their whole lives. I know my father did. The one word he hated more than anything was "****". He felt it was the worst word in the world. He lost too many ROK "friends". He also told me, "Never fight the Turks." You want them on your side.
I understand your dad's feelings about ROK troops. Also, the Gurkhas were by far the most feared killing machine that could be unleashed on anyone. The Chinese had no problem charging head long into a devastating defense but at night they feared a visit from the Gurkhas. I don't know if he told you why, but they were silent killers. I knew guys in Nam who served in Korea, and they said they weren't someone you tangled with.
 
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I full heartedly agree. This law has been written in a way that makes it way too easy to abuse its intent. That's the problem when you allow people to act like vigilantes, meting out what they think is "justice."
Yep. See I think it’s different if your home is being invaded. Someone brought the intent to harm to you and your family and you really have an obligation to protect your property and family. You get 1 warning shot. Then it’s on! Otherwise? How am I supposed to know if the Packers made the Playoffs?
 

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Yep. See I think it’s different if your home is being invaded. Someone brought the intent to harm to you and your family and you really have an obligation to protect your property and family. You get 1 warning shot. Then it’s on! Otherwise? How am I supposed to know if the Packers made the Playoffs?
Well, if the Packers do not then we must ask who does? So that means 4 division winners and 3 WCs.
 

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Yep. See I think it’s different if your home is being invaded. Someone brought the intent to harm to you and your family and you really have an obligation to protect your property and family. You get 1 warning shot. Then it’s on! Otherwise? How am I supposed to know if the Packers made the Playoffs?
No warning shots. If you fire a shot, do it with intent.
 

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Actually, a lot of you guys sound like you're expecting to be shot everytime you be get gas or go to the 7/11.
 

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Turn the news on......rather have it and not need it than the other side of that coin.
Sorry you might think I'm crazy but if somebody went nuts in a Walmart, I'd go to the sports section and get a bow and arrow if I had to.......
 

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I am. My warning shot is the Crotch area. I’ll make you proud Voyageur don’t worry! :p
When I went through the police academy, we had a female as one of our self-defense instructors. One guy, a real redneck, asked her how someone her size could handle a 250# man. He was playing the macho game.

She had him come up in front of the class and told him to take her down. Don't treat her like a woman. Just get the upper hand and take her down. She made it a point to tell him that he should be serious about it because she was going to stop him from doing it.

Anyhow, big red went at her and she immediately landed a swift kick right between his legs. McManus would have been proud of her. Even though she pulled back on the kick so as to not seriously injure him, he ended up bent over with his hands on that area she kicked.

Casually she walked over to him, grabbed him by the hair and said, "Next phase of the art of self-defense is the knee to the face. It's the final step of getting a man's attention."

Even though she eased up on the knee he went down in a heap and lay there for nearly 5 minutes while she went on to give us some finer points of stopping people attacking you. Then she looked at him and said, "Get up you big p***y. The only thing bruised is your ego."

He washed out of the academy the following week. He was not the type who belonged there.
 
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When I went through the police academy, we had a female as one of our self-defense instructors. One guy, a real redneck, asked her how someone her size could handle a 250# man. He was playing the macho game.

She had him come up in front of the class and told him to take her down. Don't treat her like a woman. Just get the upper hand and take her down. She made it a point to tell him that he should be serious about it because she was going to stop him from doing it.

Anyhow, big red went at her and she immediately landed a swift kick right between his legs. McManus would have been proud of her. Even though she pulled back on the kick so as to not seriously injure him, he ended up bent over with his hands on that area she kicked.

Casually she walked over to him, grabbed him by the hair and said, "Next phase of the art of self-defense is the knee to the face. It's the final step of getting a man's attention."

Even though she eased up on the knee he went down in a heap and lay there for nearly 5 minutes while she went on to give us some finer points of stopping people attacking you. Then she looked at him and said, "Get up you big p***y. The only thing bruised is your ego."

He washed out of the academy the following week. He was not the type who belonged there.
Thank You!
So I’m not nearly anything accomplished as far as self defense. Yet I took an entire Summer of Chung Do Kwon and I’m talking devoted like stayed after classes to train (no AC either only a fan and we were not even allowed to rope our sweat and I’m being honest.l) Btw, of the owner pairs was a Seargent on the Police dept. Those 2 instructors traveled regularly to Korea to master it. In less than 4 months of regular training I was a lowly Yellow Belt. This art works in a slow painstaking award of stripes, so that’s only 2 levels. It’s mostly hand to hand moves and throws (Judo) and 75% using your legs for Kicks and leverage. Reminds me a little of a modern Jujitsu. I teach my 6yr old techniques and so far we practice pressure points for fun. At 55lbs (she’s solid) I’m confident she could hurt a 100lb boy badly if she’s attacked or get away from someone 2X her size. However she already knows the most important rule I was taught. To extract yourself from danger with distance (or having a better story rehearsed than the verbal ruse being presented) and swallow your pride to see another day. The best self defense is no defense or not having to use what you’ve practiced. That guy learned this principle the hard way! Thanks for sharing.
 
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Thank You!
So I’m not nearly anything accomplished as far as self defense. Yet I took an entire Summer of Chung Do Kwon and I’m talking devoted like stayed after classes to train (no AC either only a fan and we were not even allowed to rope our sweat and I’m being honest.l) Btw, of the owner pairs was a Seargent on the Police dept. Those 2 instructors traveled regularly to Korea to master it. In less than 4 months of regular training I was a lowly Yellow Belt. This art works in a slow painstaking award of stripes, so that’s only 2 levels. It’s mostly hand to hand moves and throws (Judo) and 75% using your legs for Kicks and leverage. Reminds me a little of a modern Jujitsu. I teach my 6yr old techniques and so far we practice pressure points for fun. At 55lbs (she’s solid) I’m confident she could hurt a 100lb boy badly if she’s attacked or get away from someone 2X her size. However she already knows the most important rule I was taught. To extract yourself from danger with distance (or having a better story rehearsed than the verbal ruse being presented) and swallow your pride to see another day. The best self defense is no defense or not having to use what you’ve practiced. That guy learned this principle the hard way! Thanks for sharing.
I have to admit that I used her "technique" twice in my lifetime. Once when a big guy who was 6-6 and weighed a hair over 300# came at me when we went to break up a bar fight. When he lunged for me, I kicked a field goal and down he went, nearly taking me with him in the process. While he was laying on the floor, two other officers were able to put zip ties on him. His wrists were too big for cuffs. They even doubled them up using two ties on each wrist and between them. It took four of us to get that beast into the back of a squad car and nobody would get in there with him. By the time we got to the station he'd pretty much destroyed everything in the back seat. We found out later he was tweaking.

The second time happened when I was 71 years old and working security at summer campground in Wisconsin. A guy who was drunker than the town drunks could get came at me with of all things a small pot. He raised his arm to hit me with it and I planted one directly down the middle. As he started to fall, I grabbed the pot and whacked him on the side of the head with it. He woke up several minutes later, after the cops arrived and were cuffing him. He didn't even remember what happened except he had this horrible pain in his crotch and felt like he was going to throw up. Then he said he had a headache. One of the cops looked at me, puzzled and I said, "He's really drunk. Must be hallucinating." He just shook his head agreeing.

I haven't had to raise a hand to anyone since that night. At my present age it's a good thing. I'm not certain I could kick that high or accurately.
 

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Remember, you can punch low as well.
Hey Raptor. I saw you on da Vikings cheer squad. You looked so super happy and strutted your stuff!!!!!!
Keep up da hard work. Head cheerleader is in your future!!!!
I'm not gifted with comp skills but a picture is worth a 1000 words if someone can upload it.
 

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Hey Raptor. I saw you on da Vikings cheer squad. You looked so super happy and strutted your stuff!!!!!!
Keep up da hard work. Head cheerleader is in your future!!!!
I'm not gifted with comp skills but a picture is worth a 1000 words if someone can upload it.
Nothing like starting a war between Bears & Vikings fans on a Packer site. The only thing we need at this point is a Lions fan selling cold beer!
 

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Hey Raptor. I saw you on da Vikings cheer squad. You looked so super happy and strutted your stuff!!!!!!
Keep up da hard work. Head cheerleader is in your future!!!!
I'm not gifted with comp skills but a picture is worth a 1000 words if someone can upload it.
At least I can strut my stuff, unlike most Bears fans who can't get their fat *** out of the stadium seats, expect to **** and get another Bud Light.
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Now we're gettin' them warmed up Dave Swerski vs the two queens!

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At least I can strut my stuff, unlike most Bears fans who can't get their fat *** out of the stadium seats, expect to **** and get another Bud Light.
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How'd you find that pic of me?!?!?!!!
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I understand your dad's feelings about ROK troops. Also, the Gurkhas were by far the most feared killing machine that could be unleashed on anyone. The Chinese had no problem charging head long into a devastating defense but at night they feared a visit from the Gurkhas. I don't know if he told you why, but they were silent killers. I knew guys in Nam who served in Korea, and they said they weren't someone you tangled with.
You want to know the real sobering thought on this subject? At any given time, there are roughly a couple dozen Gurkhas serving in the SAS. Can you imagine Gurkhas with SAS training?? Whatever the problem (wherever the problem) just send a squad of them, and it'll get fixed.

I recently read that the US uses retired Gurkha soldiers as security personnel at embassies and naval bases in areas where security is especially precarious.

Their motto is "It is better to die than be a coward," and the Japanese were utterly terrified of them. Japanese infantry doctrine emphasized ranged combat and rapid, massed assaults, and Gurkhas were lethal close-range, hand to hand fighters - especially with that vicious curved knife I can't recall the name of. They were also masters of psychological warfare; they would often creep into Japabese positions late at night, and tie the sleeping Japanese soldiers' shoelaces together, or cut the laces off their boots with their razor sharp knife.

The Japanese would often sleep 2 men in a foxhole; one man on watch while the other slept. The sleeping man would sometimes wake up to find his partner's throat cut. Message sent, message received.

There was one Gurkha who singlehandedly held off an attack of roughly 200 Japanese; they tried throwing several grenades; but he kept scooping them up and throwing them back, until one blew his hand off.

So for the rest of the night, he had only his left hand to load his rifle and shoot it. By morning, he had inflicted roughly 30% casualtries, about half of them KIA.

There's a story (probably apocryphal) that Gurkhas in Europe were asked to volunteer for a very dangerous mission; they would be dropped behind German lines from an airplane, conduct their mission, and then sneak back out before morning. When the officer asked volunteers to step forward, he was surprised that barely half of them stepped up. He whispered to their officer, "I thought your men were supposed to be unusually brave". Their lieutenant whispered back, "You forgot to tell them they'd have parachutes".
 

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You want to know the real sobering thought on this subject? At any given time, there are roughly a couple dozen Gurkhas serving in the SAS. Can you imagine Gurkhas with SAS training?? Whatever the problem (wherever the problem) just send a squad of them, and it'll get fixed.

I recently read that the US uses retired Gurkha soldiers as security personnel at embassies and naval bases in areas where security is especially precarious.

Their motto is "It is better to die than be a coward," and the Japanese were utterly terrified of them. Japanese infantry doctrine emphasized ranged combat and rapid, massed assaults, and Gurkhas were lethal close-range, hand to hand fighters - especially with that vicious curved knife I can't recall the name of. They were also masters of psychological warfare; they would often creep into Japabese positions late at night, and tie the sleeping Japanese soldiers' shoelaces together, or cut the laces off their boots with their razor sharp knife.

The Japanese would often sleep 2 men in a foxhole; one man on watch while the other slept. The sleeping man would sometimes wake up to find his partner's throat cut. Message sent, message received.

There was one Gurkha who singlehandedly held off an attack of roughly 200 Japanese; they tried throwing several grenades; but he kept scooping them up and throwing them back, until one blew his hand off.

So for the rest of the night, he had only his left hand to load his rifle and shoot it. By morning, he had inflicted roughly 30% casualtries, about half of them KIA.

There's a story (probably apocryphal) that Gurkhas in Europe were asked to volunteer for a very dangerous mission; they would be dropped behind German lines from an airplane, conduct their mission, and then sneak back out before morning. When the officer asked volunteers to step forward, he was surprised that barely half of them stepped up. He whispered to their officer, "I thought your men were supposed to be unusually brave". Their lieutenant whispered back, "You forgot to tell them they'd have parachutes".
The knife is a kukri. My second oldest son told me quite a bit about them. He treated a couple of Gurkha soldiers who were fighting beside the British in Afghanistan. He said they were quiet and pensive, didn't have much to say. They kept apologizing for getting wounded and taking up his time and supplies. He kept reassuring them that it wasn't a problem and he was happy to be able to help them. One of them was able to return to duty right after he was done treating him while the other had to stay overnight. He told me the soldier who stayed at his station overnight didn't sleep. He sat silently in the corner apparently meditating, until my son offered him some beef jerky. The soldier thanked him but said he wasn't hungry. At that point he began communicating more. He apparently thought my son's actions were an act of kindness. A little later that evening, a Gurkha soldier showed up with a curry for the man. It seems he was hungry but was a Hindu and beef was out of the question for him. It was an all-vegetable curry.
 
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