What is going on with Rodgers?

[ivo610]

Unfortunately, there are other QB's not named Rodgers like Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, and Cam Newton putting up way better numbers.

I get what you are saying, but lets not make factually inaccurate statements just because it sounds better to post.

 

[red4tribe]

Yes, I am calling out Aaron Rodgers, since not a lot of Packer fans have because somehow we have this notion that he is some infallible god.

However, in his past few games, he has not looked anywhere close to being good. Unfortunately, there are other QB's not named Rodgers like Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, and Cam Newton putting up way better numbers.

So why do we blame the other parts of the offense when he is suppose to be the major part of the Packers' success? We have to be realistic and Rodgers needs to be held accountable. People that want to shove this under the rug are making this a lot worse. If Rodgers does not improve, we are not winning a Super Bowl, it is that simple.

If he can play just as good as last year or the beginning of this year, then we might have a shot. But before people call me out, look at the numbers and do some research on what has Rodgers contributed and you will not be surprised of how bad he has played recently.

I hate to admit it, but we are not a good team when Rodgers plays bad. I accept any challenges to my opinion, but I am just leaving this out there.

I agree that Rodgers played very poorly today, that he has been mediocre this year and that many members of this forum believe he can do no wrong....however, you have a myopic view of the offense if you think it all comes down to Rodgers. The receivers cannot get open, the offensive line is banged up, and the running game has been inconsistent.

First and foremost of the offense's problem are the WR's. Jones is solid, has decent hands, can jump for the ball, catches well in traffic, and runs good routes but he isn't a #1 receiver due to his speed. Who else does Rodgers have besides Jones? Cobb can't do anything anymore without a legitimate deep threat. Adams has been awful all year with drops and mental errors. Dropped a sure touchdown today (again) and another stupid mental error with his spiking the ball. Abbrederis and Janis are unproven. Rodgers, like Jones, has good hands but is terribly inconsistent and has no speed.

This being said, Rodgers hasn't quite been the same as in years past. More throws have been off than usual, and he's made uncharacteristic poor decisions. I think he is pressing, and trying to force the ball into locations he wouldn't have in the past. He also seems skittish from all the hits he is taking.

 

[cbecker422]

We had to pray Davante could be half of what Jordy is and the result is he lost all his confidence early on, almost completely unreliable. Other reality is even at full health our Oline is suspect....nobody is having their best year. Then they get hurt every game apparently.

Without a deep threat we don't have a chance at making a legit run this year, that's the bottom line.

 

[P-E-Z]

If you little to no run game and poor pass protection and slow recievers.... it will make any quarter back look bad. Its a team sport. While Rodgers is not having the best season no other quarter back could do any better. The one thing that Rodgers has dropped off is running the ball when people are covered.

 

[Quientus]

Often ppl forget ... Mobile QBs Can actually be more difficult to protect for The offensive line, because they tend to leave the pocket faster and more frequently ... Sometimes in adversity being the Leader means you show your "troops" by body language and demeanor that you trust Them ... Doesnt mean you can't chew out ppl on The field, but dont show it with your demeanor ... Nor do you throw ppl under The proverbial bus publicly ...

Just a thought

 

[PackPackPackers]

I get what you are saying, but lets not make factually inaccurate statements just because it sounds better to post.

Let's be realistic ivo610, Aaron Rodgers is not even playing close to the level of Cam Newton (who has about 41 TDs this year if you combine his passing and running stats).

Why is it so hard to accept that Aaron Rodgers just has not played well this past year?

 

[Darryl Tincknell]

Does Cam Newton get sacked 8-9 times a game?...does he get pressured on virtually every play?..granted, Newton is a very good QB but AR would be 14-1 right now playing with that Carolina team

 

[Quientus]

I've said this before ...;

Rodgers is an amazing QB, able to make All throws and very mobile, however, just as he did have issues in The beginning of his career he still lacks one important trait - true leadership - and unfortunately, in my opinion, this is one of The issues we are seeing currently when things dont go as planned ... - to me it just doesnt Seem like The offense "goes The extra mile" currently ...

Granted there are issues, mainly with The offense, thin Line, lack of talented receivers, but I remember a time when ppl raved about how "Rodgers made receivers", when what we are seeing now is how blessed we (GB) have been in past years of having a talented pool of receivers, a pool of talent that has seemingly grown thin ...

Unfortunately we Seem to be wasting another talent of a lifetime, neglecting to reinforce more via FA and solely (Well there are exceptions) through The draft ...

 

[P-E-Z]

Let's be realistic ivo610, Aaron Rodgers is not even playing close to the level of Cam Newton (who has about 41 TDs this year if you combine his passing and running stats).

Why is it so hard to accept that Aaron Rodgers just has not played well this past year?

He not playing as well as in past seasons but doesn't have the support to make look over the top amazing either.

 

[ivo610]

Let's be realistic ivo610, Aaron Rodgers is not even playing close to the level of Cam Newton (who has about 41 TDs this year if you combine his passing and running stats).

Why is it so hard to accept that Aaron Rodgers just has not played well this past year?

He isnt playing at his usual MVP level, but to say Tyrod Taylor is putting up "way better numbers" (your words) is factually inaccurate and an attempt to create something that isnt. You act like Rodgers is having a bad year for a QB. He isnt, he is having a bad year by his superhuman standards.

 

[PackPackPackers]

I've said this before ...;

Rodgers is an amazing QB, able to make All throws and very mobile, however, just as he did have issues in The beginning of his career he still lacks one important trait - true leadership - and unfortunately, in my opinion, this is one of The issues we are seeing currently when things dont go as planned ... - to me it just doesnt Seem like The offense "goes The extra mile" currently ...

Granted there are issues, mainly with The offense, thin Line, lack of talented receivers, but I remember a time when ppl raved about how "Rodgers made receivers", when what we are seeing now is how blessed we (GB) have been in past years of having a talented pool of receivers, a pool of talent that has seemingly grown thin ...

Unfortunately we Seem to be wasting another talent of a lifetime, neglecting to reinforce more via FA and solely (Well there are exceptions) through The draft ...

You hit the nail on the head. He has absolutely no leadership. Why can he not take responsibility for his poor play? It is completely unacceptable. At least Favre would admit if the Packers lost that he was the mean reason why they lost.

@P-E-Z

He might not have the best talent around him, but even great players go beyond this and make others better. He clearly has not done this and I believe this is why we are not winning games.

 

[longtimefan]

You hit the nail on the head. He has absolutely no leadership. Why can he not take responsibility for his poor play? It is completely unacceptable. At least Favre would admit if the Packers lost that he was the mean reason why they lost.
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He has said he needs to play better in press conferences..So what more do you want him to say since he already is doing what you want?

 

[King of Jeans]

Rodgers hasn't played his best this year. He is probably so frustrated and thrown off his game at this point. But if the offensive line and wide receivers weren't playing like complete GARBAGE he would be putting up better numbers.

 

[Shawnsta3]

You hit the nail on the head. He has absolutely no leadership. Why can he not take responsibility for his poor play? It is completely unacceptable. At least Favre would admit if the Packers lost that he was the mean reason why they lost.

To be fair, Favre may have admitted his own bad play more than Rodgers has..but he'd also accumulated a lot more bad plays than his successor.

 

[ivo610]

He has said he needs to play better in press conferences..So what more do you want him to say since he already is doing what you want?

That Brett Favre would have done it better? Lol

 

[cbecker422]

I'm just stunned how difficult it is for this offense to get even a few yards. Might as well punt on 3rd down now. I like our defense and think we could make a run on that side of the ball. With the offense being even a little competent we have a chance this game against AZ.

 

[P-E-Z]

You hit the nail on the head. He has absolutely no leadership. Why can he not take responsibility for his poor play? It is completely unacceptable. At least Favre would admit if the Packers lost that he was the mean reason why they lost.

@P-E-Z

He might not have the best talent around him, but even great players go beyond this and make others better. He clearly has not done this and I believe this is why we are not winning games.

So you at the practices and know what does or doesn't do in game prep?

 

[OldSchool101]

Yes, I am calling out Aaron Rodgers, since not a lot of Packer fans have because somehow we have this notion that he is some infallible god.
However, in his past few games, he has not looked anywhere close to being good. Unfortunately, there are other QB's not named Rodgers like Tyrod Taylor, Blake Bortles, and Cam Newton putting up way better numbers.

So why do we blame the other parts of the offense when he is suppose to be the major part of the Packers' success? We have to be realistic and Rodgers needs to be held accountable. People that want to shove this under the rug are making this a lot worse. If Rodgers does not improve, we are not winning a Super Bowl, it is that simple.

If he can play just as good as last year or the beginning of this year, then we might have a shot. But before people call me out, look at the numbers and do some research on what has Rodgers contributed and you will not be surprised of how bad he has played recently.

I hate to admit it, but we are not a good team when Rodgers plays bad. I accept any challenges to my opinion, but I am just leaving this out there.

So what your trying to feed us is that any of those QBs you mentioned could've come into training camp at GB this year and somehow turned this Offense into a Superbowl machine?? No disrespect, but I think this concept is beyond a bold assertion. The only think you would need by replacing Aaron is possibly a few extra stretchers.

 

[PackPackPackers]

He has said he needs to play better in press conferences..So what more do you want him to say since he already is doing what you want?

This is the same quarterback who throws people under the bus...so simply stating "I need to play better" is not good enough. His words are cheap because his performance has been absolute garbage. How does his performance even match the huge contract we gave him? It is not even close!

That Brett Favre would have done it better? Lol

I don't think that's what I was trying to say...Rodgers just needs to step it up on the field and be the player he used to be.

So what your trying to feed us is that any of those QBs you mentioned could've come into training camp at GB this year and somehow turned this Offense into a Superbowl machine?? No disrespect, but I think this concept is beyond a bold assertion. The only think you would need by replacing Aaron is possibly a few extra stretchers.

Honestly, if you would insert any of these QB's in today's game, they would have performed better than Rodgers.

 

[ivo610]

I don't think that's what I was trying to say...Rodgers just needs to step it up on the field and be the player he used to be.

If only he wanted to play better we would be A ok

 

[longtimefan]

This is the same quarterback who throws people under the bus...so simply stating "I need to play better" is not good enough. His words are cheap because his performance has been absolute garbage. How does his performance even match the huge contract we gave him? It is not even close!

Who does he throw under the bus...can you please give examples

Im not saying he doesnt need to play better...I even called him out after the Seattle playoff loss last year.I blame him more then the def..

Im not going to debate leadership issues AGAIN....but since you probably arent aware of practice, meetings, hanging out, offseason stuff..You really cant say with 100% certainty he isnt doing that

 

[Dieseljunkie12]

I think those were just a few names off the top of his head, and i agree with him. Cam in green and gold this season puts us above all. going into the season no one gave carolina any credit ( i dont either...cake schedule) but he made no name guys good like as true qb should do. brady has done it for years with no names, eli as well......

 

[longtimefan]

im merging

 

[ivo610]

I think those were just a few names off the top of his head, and i agree with him. Cam in green and gold this season puts us above all. going into the season no one gave carolina any credit ( i dont either...cake schedule) but he made no name guys good like as true qb should do. brady has done it for years with no names, eli as well......

ELI and Brady have the top 2 offensive weapons in football.... or havent you been paying attention?

 

[ivo610]

im merging

No. I want to fight on multiple fronts