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What difference does it make?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Packerlifer, Aug 19, 2009.

  1. D.Levens

    D.Levens Banned Banned

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    Did you ever think that mighta been because your hero, Ted Thompson didn't care?

    For Cripes sakes...he was signing guys off the street to play WR and O-Line, and guy's named Taco Wallace, and Chalupa Jones...

    Do you think that ol' Teddy just mighta been setting up ol' Brett for failure..??

    I do..

    (PS..Favre made the Packers better way more often then the other way around. Does Peyton Manning or Tom Brady make their teams any better? Answer me that!)
     
  2. Philtration

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    Gee.... when I pointed out those very same stats on this very same site I was told that this was just "Brett trying to win", that he was the greatest QB even and you take those mistakes with the greatness that is Favre.
    Live by the sword, die by the sword!

    How times have changed.
     
  3. D.Levens

    D.Levens Banned Banned

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    Packerfans = Turncoats all...
     
  4. Pugger

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    If a person here states that Favre's skills are not what they once were and he has a propensity to throw picks at the worst possible time late in games during the last few years folks like Levins here calls them a hater. 99% of all Packer fans DO NOT HATE FARVE. We cheered for him hoarse for 16 seasons, prayed for him when his family had health issues and cried with him when his father died. I heard some fans even went down to MS to help clean up his home town after Katrina. But now there are a lot of us who just aren't all that thrilled with what he has become. I have no problem with him still wanting to play. But I have a hard time stomaching the fact he is playing in MN no matter what the circumstances of him not still playing in GB are.

    I don't for one second believe anybody pushed BF out the door at 1265. I distinctly remember Favre telling us at that teary retirement PC in March of 2008 that the decision to retire was his and his alone. And this is the crux of the disagreement among Packer fans. There are some who believe TT wanted Favre out the door since day one so they hate TT and have no use for ANY player he has brought in - especially Rodgers. He really gets blasted by these folks cuz they almost blame him for Favre leaving. They hope the team crashes and burns so this vermin will be fired. I think both TT and MM wanted Favre back after he "retired" in March IF he would commit himself 100% to the Packers and attend offseason activities. In that teary PC Favre admitted he was weary of all the offseason work. But even last August I still think Favre could've come back. But when Favre had those marathon talks with McCarthy I don't think Favre convinced MM he was committed to playing for the Packers and MM even said so to the media after The Trade to NY.
     
  5. Fazeman

    Fazeman Setting The Pace

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    The Packer defense; putting their faith in the opponent's chest.

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  6. Philtration

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    How many QBs would say are perfect or close to it?
    My dislike for the Packers is no secret but Rodgers played very well last year and if he can consistently throw for 4,000 yards and 25-30 TDs a season then that is something that most teams in the NFL only wish they had.

    Believe me… being a Bears fan I know how bad it can be.
    Why do you think the fans here are so damn happy that Cutler is in a Bears uniform?
    We have seen the other side of that coin.
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  7. doughsellz

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    In a very real sense the man you claim the Packers felt would do better than #4, Aaron Rodgers, took a team that had previously been ascending, (8-8 in '06, 13-3 in '07), to a new low at 6-10 in '08.

    I know, it was injuries that were the real reason for 6-10, not Rodgers, right? You & Aaron Rodgers may be happy with his QB rating for '08 but the wins didn't accumulate. Inexperience played a huge role in the losses by 4 points or less. In '07 those games went the Packers' way.

    I wonder why?
     
  8. longtimefan

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    Brett never missed chances to have a win late in a game?

    how about 2005?

    It happens to the BEST so stop blaming ENTIRE 2008 on Rodgers



     
  9. Pugger

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    It just amazes me that these Favre fanatics will give BF all the credit for 2007 and tell us that he resurrected the Jets from oblivion last season but almost to a man ignore his record in 2005.
     
  10. America

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    Gosh....could it have possibly been the extra 80 points that our defense surrendered in 2008? Or the dramatic fall-off in special teams play?

    I would think that both of those were more obvious reasons for the change in record than inexperience, but that's JMO.
     
  11. PackersRS

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    Finally, someone that doesn't just say Rodgers didn't win enough because he sucks, that there were other factors involved. Yes, he played pretty good, but YES, he was inexperienced. The blame was mostly on injuries and bad defensive play (schemes and all). But he had some guilt (as Favre has had in the past, even being experienced. Actually, since the "amazing qb" phase ended and the "gunslinger" phase began he had a lot of those, but that's another issue.). But he NEEDED that year to develop himself as a qb and also the chemistry with his receivers. Did you see that amazing DD catch? I doubt they could've pulled that last year.
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    BTW, did it hurt to actually make a point without offending anyone???
     
  12. longtimefan

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    failed to mention in 07 that the Philly game and the Washington game Brett threw 0 TDs and 3 or 4 ints. The Defense and S/T got those wins.

    Which just goes to prove a point..It really is a TEAM game

    When one player or unit slacks another has to pick it up
     

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