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Anyone remember when the last kick block was before that FG? I don't recall seeing one by the Packers for years and years...
 

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Man, I just don’t know. Just feels like Love fundamentally is unable to see the field/read a defense at the level expected of a “franchise cornerstone” QB. And I don’t know that surrounding him with more experienced pass catchers or a better OL changes that.

I’m sure someone will retort that “Benkert said it was actually a good throw” or whatever but it just feels like he doesn’t see the game adequately.
 

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Just woke up - lol. I see things are going well since half time
 

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Not so much last year..although he did us 8 wins.
I’d argue that kinda proves the point anyways. Rodgers plays like an MVP, LaFleur’s Packers have a great record. Rodgers has an average year, LaFleur’s Packers are average. If anything IMO last year reinforces the notion that LaFleur has been largely dependent on having a elite-level QB to get elite results.
 

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That is not much of a refutation. Way too many tangents to explore if the argument is going to include Rodgers, but I’ve seen a lot this year that does not look favorably on LeFleur.
I mean supposedly Love is the quarterback he really wanted, so... yeah.
Really, I'll say this for Love, he's not afraid to take a hit when he's running (see John Elway's helicopter). Although that is likely going to bite him in the behind at some point.
 

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I’d argue that kinda proves the point anyways. Rodgers plays like an MVP, LaFleur’s Packers have a great record. Rodgers has an average year, LaFleur’s Packers are average. If anything IMO last year reinforces the notion that LaFleur has been largely dependent on having an elite-level QB to get elite results.
Absolutely 100% correct! I have been saying that about this team for years, pre-Matt Lafleur as well!
 

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Maybe we’re just intentionally tanking and doing a good job of disguising it as us simply being incompetent. Cuz Minnesota really tried their best to hand us the game and we pretty much just said “no thanks”
 
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Man, I just don’t know. Just feels like Love fundamentally is unable to see the field/read a defense at the level expected of a “franchise cornerstone” QB. And I don’t know that surrounding him with more experienced pass catchers or a better OL changes that.

I’m sure someone will retort that “Benkert said it was actually a good throw” or whatever but it just feels like he doesn’t see the game adequately.
Not a retort but would you call the Offense without our QB
1. The same ?
2. Better?
3. Worse ?

Don’t answer that as I already know the correct answer. So why would we expect a novice QB with 7 games experience to = a HOF QB with 15 years experience. #12 would’ve been lucky to win 8 games with this roster both O n D
 

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This was a winnable game against an average team! They didn't really do anything special! Self inflicted wounds and penalties did them in agsin!
 

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LaFluer isn’t going anywhere this year. They may force him to fire Barry. Does our D have the talent to turn around? I mean I know we have lofty draft picks, but is the TALENT there??
 

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