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A 5th round pick is a steal for Wicks, then you add a 7th round pick next year which makes it even better. Hopefully, that pick will be more or at least as productive as Wicks no matter the position. Good deal to me.
Yes a 5th and 2027 6th. Probably a comp so might as well be a 7th
 

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I can't get too worked up about the trade one way or the other. Although it's good we got something. Whether it was a decent trade for them or us completely depends on how he does this year. I suppose you could also follow the picks or trades we make with the picks we get. But that's taking it too far I think.
 

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Yes a 5th and 2027 6th. Probably a comp so might as well be a 7th
Actually, it'll be whichever pick is later between Eagles & Packers 6th round '27 pick. GB sent their '27 6th rounder to Philly for OT Darian Kinnard. The Eagles sent the earlier of theirs or GB's 6th to the Jets in another trade... so it's conceivable GB gets their own pick back.
 

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Actually, it'll be whichever pick is later between Eagles & Packers 6th round '27 pick. GB sent their '27 6th rounder to Philly for OT Darian Kinnard. The Eagles sent the earlier of theirs or GB's 6th to the Jets in another trade... so it's conceivable GB gets their own pick back.
Now Kinnard was a good trade.
 
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I can't get too worked up about the trade one way or the other. Although it's good we got something. Whether it was a decent trade for them or us completely depends on how he does this year. I suppose you could also follow the picks or trades we make with the picks we get. But that's taking it too far I think.
Looks like Wicks will have a better opportunity in Philly.
In GB he would likely be behind these players in targets. Watson, Reed, Golden, Kraft. Then keep in mind we’ve got out 3rd Rounder (Savion) entering Year 2. So we’d have to be asking ourselves is Wicks going to cover up any growth opportunity regarding Savion?
 

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Looks like Wicks will have a better opportunity in Philly.
In GB he would likely be behind these players in targets. Watson, Reed, Golden, Kraft. Then keep in mind we’ve got out 3rd Rounder (Savion) entering Year 2. So we’d have to be asking ourselves is Wicks going to cover up any growth opportunity regarding Savion?
Still. We'll have to see how he does.
 

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Need to look at a late draft pick or sign a cast off in August for when guys get hurt. Historically, that happens every year in GB. So a chance for a veteran to revive his career. There should be about 3 or 4 available.
I think that Gute might use an earlier draft pick on a WR, if there is one on the board that he likes. That might hedge against loosing any of Watson, Reed, Moore in Free agency after the season or as you said, injuries during the season.

For now, unless there are injuries, I would say these 5 guys are a lock to make the 53 man roster:

- Watson
- Reed
- Golden
- Moore
- Williams
 

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I still just think he’s at best #4 in pecking order, possibly #5. Likely had no plans to get an offer in 2027.
He was pacing around 450 yards 3TD when he injured. That’s highly debatable if it’s worth a pair of draft picks and around $2.5Mil extra over a Rookie.

Also we have Reed, Moore and Williams all playing Slot. Which is where Wicks was used a bunch. Just too much overlap and time to start utilizing Golden and Savion. Moore is also an underestimated depth piece. Love that guys ability to come back when the play breaks down and he catches everything.
Did all of you guys have Sky in the Amish contest or something? IMO if he did not return kicks he would be 50/50 to make the 53.
 

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Did all of you guys have Sky in the Amish contest or something? IMO if he did not return kicks he would be 50/50 to make the 53.
If Skyy didn't return kicks, I doubt he would be on the roster right now, period... kinda like the Mecole Hardman signing was last year.
 

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Did all of you guys have Sky in the Amish contest or something? IMO if he did not return kicks he would be 50/50 to make the 53.
That's why I have Wetjen in Amish's 55th contest. Offers more return ability & (hopefully) shows he can handle slot work, allowing Reed to move on in '27. ;)
 

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I agree with this, but I do not think Wicks would garner anything higher than a 6th round comp.
Nor would he garner any comp pick if Gute and the Packers are active in Free Agency in 2027. Given their cap outlook, that is a strong possibility.

"The Green Bay Packers are projected to have substantial salary cap space in 2027, with estimates ranging from roughly $51 million to over $67 million, placing them in a strong financial position."
 

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Nor would he garner any comp pick if Gute and the Packers are active in Free Agency in 2027. Given their cap outlook, that is a strong possibility.

"The Green Bay Packers are projected to have substantial salary cap space in 2027, with estimates ranging from roughly $51 million to over $67 million, placing them in a strong financial position."
Which is why imho we should wait. We can spend without affecting that year's draft picks
 

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Wait to spend money on players. Or is it after a certain date, not too far off, that any player we sign will not go against the extra draft picks we have for next year?
 

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Wait to spend money on players. Or is it after a certain date, not too far off, that any player we sign will not go against the extra draft picks we have for next year?
Monday April 27th, 2 days after the NFL Draft is completed.
 

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In that case wait for then to sign anyone obviously. And if we think there will be better choices down the line; imho wait. It won't be a bad thing to have as much cash as we can at the end of this season.
 

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Wait to spend money on players. Or is it after a certain date, not too far off, that any player we sign will not go against the extra draft picks we have for next year?
After the draft, signing of free agents no longer factor into the determination of compensatory draft picks for the following year.
 

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I agree with this, but I do not think Wicks would garner anything higher than a 6th round comp.
Wicks just extended on a one year deal for over 10 million. If he'd of had a productive 2026, a bigger deal would've been likely in free agency getting him in the fifth round comp pick range.

With Philly, you're probably looking at a late 5th round pick. Not a lot of value there and similar to a fifth round comp. Basically, the Packers forego a season of Wicks being a very valuable depth player and get very little in return. Maybe he doesn't attract a higher pick but they lose a season from him and get peanuts.

Late picks aren't that much different than an udfa. The chances that you pick up a valuable player is slim. You can throw late picks and udfa in the same hopper. The Packers have done a great job in finding some useful players as undrafted free agents. That makes those late round picks less necessary.
 

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Wicks just extended on a one year deal for over 10 million. If he'd of had a productive 2026, a bigger deal would've been likely in free agency getting him in the fifth round comp pick range.

With Philly, you're probably looking at a late 5th round pick. Not a lot of value there and similar to a fifth round comp. Basically, the Packers forego a season of Wicks being a very valuable depth player and get very little in return. Maybe he doesn't attract a higher pick but they lose a season from him and get peanuts.

Late picks aren't that much different than an udfa. The chances that you pick up a valuable player is slim. You can throw late picks and udfa in the same hopper. The Packers have done a great job in finding some useful players as undrafted free agents. That makes those late round picks less necessary.
It's pick #153 in the 5th Rd, the 13th pick in Rd 5, which is better than our own #160. They got #153 from Atlanta.
 
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Still. We'll have to see how he does.
Personally I’m more curious how WE do. I was eager to congratulate him on social media because I think he deserves that, he can be a huge asset and I personally feel he’s got a getter opportunity there, so while I am Packer fan, I’m happy he’s not buried on a depth chart. GB won’t pass on a dynamic WR in the 2026 draft. If that happens, there’s a real chance DW is would be option #5 at WR. For $3.74Mil? No thanks
 

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I was a fan of Dontayvion Wicks, and thought he was going to finally put it together last year. Statistically he had his worst season, and has shown regression every year, whether it be TD's, Drops, less targets, yards, etc., there was always something holding him back. The Packers turned a 5th Rd draft pick into a 5th and a 6th Rd Pick over the next two years. They drafted 2 WR'S last year, and let Doubs and Wicks go this year. This tells me they are in on Watson and Reed for possible extensions, unless they Draft a WR with promise, they might move on from one of those guys. Here are Wicks career stats with Green Bay.

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It’s looking more and more like GB earned combined Draft capital of an approximate #150 overall selection. That’s in today’s asset column, which can’t be stressed enough. The Draft Chip deposit goes in next week!

Here’s a guy that comes in and really had a nice pair of dynamics seasons. Across his first 2 years he logged
500 yards per season
4.5 TD per season
12.6 yards per.

His 3rd season did take a production drop to 330 yards and 2 TD’s, but nothing too drastic as he concussed and missed several games in January etc.
Not bad at all for a Mid RD5 selection.

What’s amazing is that we bought him for #159 overall draft collateral and recouped equivalent of a #150 overall. I wonder what % of players apply a Cap cost under $970K annually ($2.9Mil 3 seasons total) and then trade, bringing a net Draft Collateral refund?

That’s a Champion GM move already and I’d argue even if GB has ZERO impact from either draft pick his total package production FAR exceeded us getting his services for $970K annual and a net positive Draft collateral spent. His services NET us a #200-220 overall free selection upon trade in and the residual refund deposit hits your account next week!

That’s like Honda telling me they’ll lease me a 36 month Accord, ZERO $$ out of pocket. A $197 monthly payment and at the end the value exceeds residuals by $1000
They notify me my refund is $1000 cash and it’s a Wire Transfer next week! Then it Turns out he was a 6cyl EXL Navigation!
I’ve only got 1 question? Can I use that as down payment and repeat that please?!

PS I could care less what happens to that used car. It matters absolutely nothing to me.
 
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It’s looking more and more like GB earned combined Draft capital of an approximate #150 overall selection. That’s in today’s asset column, which can’t be stressed enough. The Draft Chip deposit goes in next week!

Here’s a guy that comes in and really had a nice pair of dynamics seasons. Across his first 2 years he logged
500 yards per season
4.5 TD per season
12.6 yards per.

His 3rd season did take a production drop to 330 yards and 2 TD’s, but nothing too drastic as he concussed and missed several games in January etc.
Not bad at all for a Mid RD5 selection.

What’s amazing is that we bought him for #159 overall draft collateral and recouped equivalent of a #150 overall. I wonder what % of players apply a Cap cost under $970K annually ($2.9Mil 3 seasons total) and then trade, bringing a net Draft Collateral refund?

That’s a Champion GM move already and I’d argue even if GB has ZERO impact from either draft pick his total package production FAR exceeded us getting his services for $970K annual and a net positive Draft collateral spent. His services NET us a #200-220 overall free selection upon trade in and the residual refund deposit hits your account next week!

That’s like Honda telling me they’ll lease me a 36 month Accord, ZERO $$ out of pocket. A $199 monthly payment and at the end they refund me $1000 just for using their Car.
Sign me up!
But has nothing to do with if it was a good trade or not. How he plays this year will tell that.
 
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But has nothing to do with if it was a good trade or not. How he plays this year will tell that.
See I look it exact opposite. We got not only a full refund we got extra draft cap back. We’ve already got our production.


The only question going forward is this, could we even maximized even more than a “good move” after already using him 3yrs for near free. Could we have developed him into a WR1 All Pro? Highly doubt it though
 

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