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Trade Possibilities?

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by Mack_20, Oct 14, 2009.

  1. Mack_20

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  2. GBpsyco

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    I would rather have Joe Thomas over Jackson. Even though he is a beast, we still have the same O-line, "baby swiss". Perfect name
     
  3. Mack_20

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    I agreee Joe Thomas would be nice, but I think there is a 0 chance of the Browns giving him up. Maybe go after Tra Thomas though. . But even with our "baby swiss" line which I agree is the perfect name for our O-Line, Jackson would create an actual running game to the one we don't have now, even with a line, Grant would still have absolutely no vision, I like him, but you can only do so much, and what he can produce, isnt much.
     
  4. OHIOFAN

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    I would love the Pack to get Joe Thomas. The word in Cleveland is that almost everyone has a price but Thomas, but you never know the truth. I am all for getting quality O-line help, the offense has a great Qb, very good WR, a up and comming TE, but hardly and running game. Because of no running game it is hard to fool teams on play action, I think that Jackson would be a great addition. If the Browns would let Thomas go for a 4th round pick and Kampman, that would be great-a straight up trade would be even better.
     
  5. PackersRS

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    Joe Thomas would be just awesome. Jackson would be fantastic too, he would get the yards we can't get and allow Rodgers to kill defenses with PA.

    But really, does anyone really expect any trade to happen? TT is our GM, and that article was written by Florio, for crying out loud...
     
  6. Mack_20

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    No I don't expect any trade to happen. . . TT is too stupid and stubborn to make it happen. Florio made good points with all his trade possibilities, and when you have a team like Green Bay right now, you have to act while you have the cast around you. When you are a couple moves away from your franchise being a serious super bowl contender, you make the moves. TT should be doing everything in his power to get something done. Another losing season should bring the end for TT, maybe this will kick start his thinking process on ways to get something done here before the trade deadline
     
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    A solid running back is a great shot in the arm for a struggling offensive line, and I think Stephen Jackson is a game changer. I would love to have that guy on our team. The guy's a beast, he runs hard and would be the perfect counter punch to AP. The guy is explosive and can find the holes pretty well.

    Thus far I'm not convinced Grant is the best intermediate or longer term option. I like the guy fine, but I'm not convinced he's starting caliber any more. Maybe he never was. Yeah, he came through two years ago when we needed him, but he hasn't been much of a force since.

    Getting Joe Thomas would be a pipe dream. Sure, we'd love to have him, but I think Cleveland would be on crack to trade him.
     
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    For the record, I'm not a TT apologist, but let's not forget TT tried to get Tony Gonzales from KC last season. In fact, they had an agreement lined up, and moments before the trade wwas to be finalized, KC upped the asking price. Not wanting to do business with someone who just tried to screw you, I think TT was smart to pass.

    I say this to show that TT isn't quite the dim witted bulb many make him out to be. The guy won't be taken hostage, and I respect that. Sure, we'd love him to do more in FA, but the fact is we're not a horrible team. I mean, this team could be a real playoff contender with the personnel we currently have, and that's without the benefit of too many free agents.

    Besides, free agency doesn't automatically mean championships. Look at Washington and Dallas for examples.
     
  9. ThinkICare

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    I do think the packers should make one huge move before the deadline is up. Would be great to get Thomas or Jackson. TT really needs to make a move here. I'm not holding my breath for it though since he is known for not making that many moves.
     
  10. PackersRS

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    TT explores all options, and really does his homework. However, he tends to let the financial part of the business overtake the football part of business. Unless he absolutely has the advantage in the deal, it doesn't get done. Olshansky, Canty, Randy Moss... those deals weren't nothing much, but it wouldn't be smart business in financial terms. He's just not agressive enough. I'm not talking about paying Haynesworth. I'm talking about getting Faneca.
     
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    Yeah, but there is no reason the Pack shouldnt be right up to the cap max every year. Its not like we have an owner not willing to dish out the money. . . . A great example of free agency and trading, although I hate to say it, the queens. Chester Taylor, Jared Allen, Antoine Winfield, Barnyard Berrian(not the greatest, but the best they have) and yes Brett Favre have all been acquired via free agency or trade. . . thats quite the list of players. . . .
     
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    There's no doubt the Vikings have made some great acquisitions through FA or trades. I just think if TT doesn't do something big by the deadline he shouldn't be around anymore after this season. We need a GM who can pull off a few things so that we can reach our potential. I do agree with RS that it seems TT just doesn't have the right mindset to be a great GM. I hope he proves me wrong and gets a deal done before next Tuesday.
     
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    very well put, i couldnt agree more. . . He makes no moves, he should be gone, wouldnt it be a dream to have wolf back haha that would be amazing
     
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    i couldnt agree more
     
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    agreed ^^^ ... ohh well maybe he will just sit back and watch us stink it up ... he must know he is on thin ice ...
     
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    Is it really that much to ask of TT for one big trade? Kampmann and a few picks for Joe Thomas or something along those lines. If TT was actually aware of how close he is from being fired, don't you think he would've gotten a deal done already? I just hate being let down time and time again that TT didn't get a deal done. Not asking him to be Dan Snyder and go crazy with power and start signing several huge stars. Is it really true that the only reason he didn't pull the trigger to get Randy Moss was because he didn't want to let go of a 4th round pick? If it is, I'm ashamed. Randy Moss wouldn't really matter right now in this offense due to our awful o-line play, but he might have been a key in past games.
     
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    I would be willing to give a 1st and 2nd for the Browns left tackle. He is young and is already broken in. A foresure thing. I agree this is just a dream. If the dream is dead then a Jackson trade makes sense, giving the Rams Grant and a draft pick.

    If any of these trades are possible TT should pull triger.
     
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    Are there even rumors circulating that the Pack are going to trade for anybody?
     
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    I haven't heard any rumours of any team making any big trades, and probably we won't see any. Not sure why baseball has more trade deadline deals than football has, but that is the case.
     
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    There isn't a chance in hell we trade for any top notch O-lineman. Teams just don't trade them away. Not for another good player, not for a player and a 1st rounder, not for anything.

    Kampy for a backup OT is the best you can hope for. Right now the price for the Packers is going to be very high because teams know we need it. Our best chance for value of Kampy is to get straight up draft picks, or franchise him and trade him in the offseason. That goes the same for Barnett or anyone else you want to bring up.

    The Packers will have to find the LT of the future in the next draft. He's not on the roster now. Clifton will do fine this year and maybe next now. Colledge should stay at LG. Lang is a better fit at OG or RT.

    I'm all for upgrading the team through trades and free agency, but I think the odds are against the Packers now. Our players values are low at the moment and the market is high.
     
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    Trade Kampman to Houston for their one and then trade the one to San Diego for Merriman. Houston needs pass rush and we need a true 3-4 outside linebacker. Plus it gets Kampman out of the conference. Look, both guys are gonna be free agents next season so why not make the move now. Is it likely? Probably not. Would Houston give up a 1 for Kampman - I don't know. Kampman has never had a major injury and seems to take great care of myself.
     
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    I really don't think Kampy is worth a 1st rounder to anyone right now. Conditional pick that can escalate to a 1, maybe. Kampy isn't the same guy he was a few years ago.
    Last year all 9.5 sacks came in 6 games. In 2007 they came in 9, but he had 3 games with 2 or more.

    Don't get me wrong, I love Kampy. His motor runs non-stop. But it seems to be all or nothing. There are games he just disappears as far as pass rushing goes, and not always against good competition. He turns 30 next month. Not saying he doesn't have a lot left. But with his current performance and age don't give us a lot of leverage.

    As for Merriman... Not sure I want him. He's not a team player and has attitude issues. Add in the fact that he has had some injury problems, isn't playing well now, and would also be learning the 3-4 system as well. I think he has more left in the tank than Kampy, but he'll also cost a lot more money. Not sure it equals out. Rather go high in the draft for that spot again than Merriman.
     
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    From are resident rumor expert at the HQ Arrigo:
     
  25. PackersRS

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    Great post by that guy! The Michael Bush and Huff deals should be made A.S.A.P. Bush IMO is better than McFadden RIGHT NOW, and would be an instant upgrade over anything we have.
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    That Antonhy Collins thing is just a bad joke.
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    Chris Long would be an awesome deal, the kid was a beast.
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    Merriman would be a dream come true. Beast.
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    Peppers I advocated in favor of it, but now I say stay away from him.
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    The rest has been discussed.
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    And as has been discussed, nothing's going to happen. If there would've been a deal, it would've happen BEFORE the bye week, so the player could acclimate.
     

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