Patriots stole our signs last year!!!!!

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Did anyone notice that the Eagles were covering the D-signals with towels yesterday... Maybe they thought they were in New England?
 

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I would be willing to bet that that goes on more than people realize.

Hell yeah. The Pats are a great franchise, but it is no secret that they play very dirty.

They bring in players that their opponents cut to get an inside scoop on their playcalling.

Tom Brady has been on every injury report had questionable event hough he always starts. I believe Belicheck even blocks a lot of his assistants from getting new jobs.

You know who was hands-down voted the dirtiest player in the league by NFL players??? Rodney "HGH" Harrison.

Stealing signals??? I'm not surprised. That's why most coaches cover their mouths when they call plays.

The Pats probably could have beat us without stealing our signals. But you never know, and their needs to be an even playing field. I hope Goodell suspends Belicheck for one game to set some sort of precedent.
 

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I would be willing to bet that that goes on more than people realize.

No doubt.

If you aint cheating, you arent trying.

I would bet everyone stretches the rules.
 

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PackerGeek said:
I would be willing to bet that that goes on more than people realize.

No doubt.

If you aint cheating, you arent trying.

I would bet everyone stretches the rules.
I can see a team trying to see what the other team is calling. If you are that obvious about your play calling, you deserve to have signals stolen.
But when it comes to using a CAMERA or trying to get the electronic signal to the other teams calls, THATS where it becomes cheating in my view.
 

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4thand26 said:
PackerGeek said:
I would be willing to bet that that goes on more than people realize.

No doubt.

If you aint cheating, you arent trying.

I would bet everyone stretches the rules.
I can see a team trying to see what the other team is calling. If you are that obvious about your play calling, you deserve to have signals stolen.
But when it comes to using a CAMERA or trying to get the electronic signal to the other teams calls, THATS where it becomes cheating in my view.
So you can cheat a little, but not a lot?

I wonder what power lens the packers were using that the Eagles needed towel holders for their defensive signal callers?
 

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That's wild.. interesting story! So he (cameraman) was actually removed from the Lambeau sideline, and he threw a fit about it. Way to go Packers!

Just add it to the list of reasons I can't stand the Pats.
 

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Ya and doing it to the jets yesterday... yeah they are going to make big plays anyways, but makes ya wonder how many of them wouldnt have happened had they not stole the signs.
 

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cheesey said:
4thand26 said:
PackerGeek said:
I would be willing to bet that that goes on more than people realize.

No doubt.

If you aint cheating, you arent trying.

I would bet everyone stretches the rules.
I can see a team trying to see what the other team is calling. If you are that obvious about your play calling, you deserve to have signals stolen.
But when it comes to using a CAMERA or trying to get the electronic signal to the other teams calls, THATS where it becomes cheating in my view.
So you can cheat a little, but not a lot?

I wonder what power lens the packers were using that the Eagles needed towel holders for their defensive signal callers?
No, thats not what i mean. I'm having a hard time coming up with a way to word it where what i mean makes sense.
What i'm trying to say is, if a coach is making hand signals to his guys, the other team has every right to watch what he is doing with their naked eyes. If they guess the signal right and set their team accordingly, I don't see that as really cheating. Heck, if they guess the signal wrong it can blow up in their faces. But if you use outside sources (which i heard once that some teams were using lip readers to steal signals) then i think that is cheating.
 

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Didnt pats claim last year that after the jets beat them the jets new the calls and offensive signals?
 

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just another piece of evidence that the Patriots are the most despicable team in the NFL.

Bill Belichek disgust me to no end. i literally hope he never coaches again. He has no respect for the game and this just shows it even more.
Its one thing to win consistently and bring championships to an organization, but at what cost. Do you really wanna win, if your coach cheats, wears cut off sweatshirts on the sidelines, harrasses female employees because A) he couldnt get laid in a Taiwan ***** house B) hes just a disrespectful sack of garbage.

Wear a freakin decent shirt once in a while you pathetic whining poor sport son of a *****. and quit cheating.
 

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4thand26 said:
PackerGeek said:
I would be willing to bet that that goes on more than people realize.

No doubt.

If you aint cheating, you arent trying.

I would bet everyone stretches the rules.
I can see a team trying to see what the other team is calling. If you are that obvious about your play calling, you deserve to have signals stolen.
But when it comes to using a CAMERA or trying to get the electronic signal to the other teams calls, THATS where it becomes cheating in my view.

I definetly agree that using electronic devices is cheating. Is it time for the NFL to have spying rules created??
 

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Bill Belichek disgust me to no end. i literally hope he never coaches again. He has no respect for the game and this just shows it even more.
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Amen brother.. and Nolan can only wear his suits twice a year... go figure..
 

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Packnic said:
Bill Belichek disgust me to no end. i literally hope he never coaches again. He has no respect for the game and this just shows it even more.
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Amen brother.. and Nolan can only wear his suits twice a year... go figure..


aint that some bull. Nolan has his suits restricted but Bill can wear 3 tube socks sown together and get away with... i hate him so much.
 

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Anybody remember the feeling, not of being outplayed necessarily (although that happened too vs. NE) but of feeling like EVERYTHING we tried, they were ready for? It was really pissing me off during that game last year, and I bet NY felt the same way on Sunday.
 

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Pack93z said:
Packnic said:
Bill Belichek disgust me to no end. i literally hope he never coaches again. He has no respect for the game and this just shows it even more.
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Amen brother.. and Nolan can only wear his suits twice a year... go figure..


aint that some bull. Nolan has his suits restricted but Bill can wear 3 tube socks sown together and get away with... i hate him so much.

Only if those three tube socks have the NFL logo on it. :)


I think suits should be allowed. It shows class.
 

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Round two of the LT vs Pats media war... I LOVE IT!!!

John Tomase, of the Boston Herald, reports San Diego Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson is not surprised by allegations the New England Patriots used a camera to steal signs. Tomlinson said, "I think the Patriots actually live by the saying, 'If you're not cheatin, you're not trying.' I mean, I think that's the way … they live off that statement. You keep hearing the different stories of people complaining about stuff that they do. So I'm not surprised."
 

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It's OK we didn't WANT those signs anyway... They were getting old and the cost to keep them would have been too much.
 

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To the principles office you go Billy...

I wonder if Goodell would suspend a coach... I would roll away laughing if cheating Billy got put on the shelf for a week or two..

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/sports/14088132/detail.html

BOSTON -- New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick has been summoned to New York by the NFL Commissioner, SportsCenter 5 reported Tuesday.

SportsCenter 5 reporter Mike Dowling said Belichick has been called for a meeting Friday with Commissioner Roger Goodell to answer allegations that a Patriots employee was videotaping New York Jets' coaches signals during the season opener on Sunday.

That's against National Football League rules.

Belichick had no comment, saying it was a league matter.

The NFL is investigating the charges after NFL security confiscated a video camera and tape from the Patriots employee during New England's 38-14 victory Sunday.

"The rule is that no video recording devices of any kind are permitted to be in use in the coaches' booth, on the field, or in the locker room during the game," the league said in a statement from spokesman Greg Aiello. "Clubs have specifically been reminded in the past that the videotaping of an opponent's offensive or defensive signals on the sidelines is prohibited.

The photographer was accused of illegally videotaping Jets' defensive coordinator Bob Sutton's hand signals, apparently to relay onto the field.

Jets head coach Eric Mangine, a former Patriots defensive coordinator, claimed he saw the spying, but he was remaining mum about the investigation.

"Those are all league-related matters and anything that deals with an issue like this or anything on a team-by-team basis, they all go to the league," Mangine said.

Patriots cornerback Ellis Hobbs is saying he's offended by the accusation.

"We take pride in what we do. We know the rules of the game. By no facet or shape or form have we ever tried to cheat or anything like that because we don't need to," Hobbs said in a statement.

The Green Bay Packers claimed that a similar incident happened with the same employee during a Nov. 19 game last year. The camera man was escorted off the field.

If the NFL finds the Patriots are guilty of spying on another team, the team could be fined or have to forfeit a draft pick.
 

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Re: To the principles office you go Billy...

I wonder if Goodell would suspend a coach... I would roll away laughing if cheating Billy got put on the shelf for a week or two..

That would make my day. 8)
 

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if you want teams to stop cheating... startin hurtin em.

the only way your gonna hurt these teams enough to stop, is by their record.

if teams miss the playoff or something because of a 2 game suspension or something like that, then they wouldnt cheat ever
 

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Every article mentions the possible punishment as "being fined or forfeiting a draft pick." So I'm guessing suspension isn't on the table. I doubt Belicheck would personally admit to being involved anyway (turd).

So if those punishments (fine or draft pick) are the options, I sure would love to see them lose a pick. Who cares about a fine... unless it counts against the cap or something.

Doesn't sound like the rules concerning blatant cheating in the NFL have a lot of teeth, but I guess we'll see.
 

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