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Michael Vick

Discussion in 'Packer Fan Forum' started by slowsinistermo, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. cheesey

    cheesey Cheesehead

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    If it's LEGAL and acceptable where you live, and you SO desire a "Fluffy burger" by all means, shoot away.
    If it's illegal, then i hope you get caught and punished for the crime you commit.
    You know...........just like your buddy Mike Vick.
     
  2. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    So you hunt to keep the deer population in check? Perhaps Vick fought dogs because every day thousands are put under in kennels across the USA.
     
  3. cheesey

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    You keep spouting that same lame line over and over and over, like it MEANS something. Yet you never touch the TRUTH in what i wrote, about WHY don't you think torturing animals for years is different then hunting?
    Lets see......the way YOU see things then.........you should stop driving your car, cause you might run over a squirrel. Right?
    I mean............if you don't throw yourself and whoever is with you into a ditch to avoid it, you have killed for a "selfish reason", right?
    I'm actually amazed that you can't see your own obvious weak comparisons in your own postings.
    I think its because................you don't WANT to see them. Ignore it, keep spouting that same tired line, and MAYBE someone here will agree with you.
    Though i doubt it.
     
  4. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    Cheesey, in all honesty, I have no clue what you are saying most of the time.

    Let's keep this simple.

    Running over a squirrel = accident

    Waking Up Early, Buying Camo Gear, Walking into the Woods, using several things to lure the deer, covering up scents, loading a shotgun, aiming at the deer, killing it = ON PURPOSE

    Correct?
     
  5. cheesey

    cheesey Cheesehead

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    Thanks Edder.
    I know..........he just keeps trying to justify torturing who knows HOW many hundreds of animals over many years, by comparing it to hunting.
    I can't help but wonder how many he has tortured, and how much fun he thought it was. This whole Vick thing seems to be hitting a little too close to home for him.
    I myself have run over animals on purpose. (He's gonna LOVE that line!) However, i have done it when they were all ready hit by another car, and i was trying to end their suffering.
    One night when i was working, i was driving in a company van, when i ran over a cat. I stopped to make sure it was dead, then sat their crying, cause i killed someones pet.
    Once, i saw a yearling deer running in circles on the road a mile from where we live. I pulled over, jumped out of my car and stopped traffic both ways and timed it so i could run and scoop up the deer in my arms to get it off the road. I put it down in the grass off the road, and it kept running in circles. Then i saw, it had a damaged eye, that was why it kept running in circles. I spent 15 minutes keeping it off the road, as i waited for a cop to come. When he showed up, he shot and killed it. As i drove away, i cried. Yup........i'm a cold hearted S.O.B.
    BIG difference from hunting to just killing.
    But he will never see it...........his eyes are closed.
     
  6. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    First off Cheesey, I'm not saying what Vick did was right, as I stated several times over. I'm saying people who want to bitch and moan about what Vick did and the go out and pop an animal hunting just to enjoy his meat, when they have plenty of other options, are being very inconsistent.
     
  7. cheesey

    cheesey Cheesehead

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    Theres NO inconsistancy in my statements.
    Your trying to compare a leagal activity to an illegal one.
    Thats like saying "If you drink soda pop and drive, it's the same as drinking vodka and driving, both are drinking and driving!"
    Or "If you smoke cigarettes, it's the same as smoking crack! Both are smoking, right?"
    Your logic (or lack thereof) amazes me.
    Nice try though! I'll give you an "A" for effort!
     
  8. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    I think I may need to render you unable to answer a question.

    You tried to compare running over a squirrel with going hunting.

    Squirrel = Accident/Deer = on purpose

    Is this not right? Yes or no will do
     
  9. cheesey

    cheesey Cheesehead

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    Do you honestly think if you keep trying to compare torturing animals on purpose to hunting that somehow will make me as guilty as Mike Vick? Again.......lame.
    Oh....and you saying things like "So you hunt to keep the deer population in check? Perhaps Vick fought dogs because every day thousands are put under in kennels across the USA. "
    Do you really believe that garbage? (I don't think you really do, your just trying to grasp at straws)
    Vick tortured hundreds of animals for his "fun".
    Both hunting and dog fighting end with animals dieing. Thats where the simalarities end, PERIOD.
    Oh....i have NEVER heard a deer scream in pain......i have heard dogs though.
    Deer are prey animals, and built differently then predators.
    But why should i bother you with a bunch of facts.........your mind was made up WAY before.......besides, you admitted you don't understand most of what i say.
     
  10. yooperfan

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    Kid,
    You appear to have no clue what you are talking about.
     
  11. cheesey

    cheesey Cheesehead

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    You never answered anything i wrote.......just kept on with the same tired line.
    So i'll do the same.
    Vick got what he deserved. I wasn't the judge, i had nothing to do with how much time he got. Go cry to the judge there if you think he was treated unfairly. It's not like i can overturn his sentence. Go complain to someone that can do something about it if it bothers you THAT much.
    As far as this discussion, I'm done with it.
    I'm not gonna change my opinion, and neither will you.
    So be it. I can live with that.
     
  12. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    OK, With all due respect Cheesey I can see you are just going to keep going all over the place instead of answering the questions. I think it's a interesting topic to debate but it's to hard to do with someone who refuses to answer questions. Hopefully someone will clarify why they are outraged at what Vick did but yet find hunting acceptable, without dodging left and right.

    Cheesey my intentions were not to fight, but to clearly understand your side. It's just to hard to do when you can't answer a question presented to you. No hard feelings man
     
  13. cheesey

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    What can ya do Yoop?
    Some people would rather try to point the finger at someone else, then face that their "hero" screwed up, and now has to pay for what he did.
    This guy is argueing with me like as if he can just get me to say hunting equals dog torturing, that will somehow either make me as guilty as Vick, or Vick less guilty.
    It doesn't make sense to me.
    But then i actually look at both things, and see some major differences.
    The only thing you can say is, both end with animlas dieing. Thats the ONLY way they are the same.
     
  14. longtimefan

    longtimefan Super Moderator Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Alan and KGB take it to pm's and would a mod lock this??

    it is going no where
     
  15. cheesey

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    OK, With all due respect Cheesey I can see you are just going to keep going all over the place instead of answering the questions. I think it's a interesting topic to debate but it's to hard to do with someone who refuses to answer questions. Hopefully someone will clarify why they are outraged at what Vick did but yet find hunting acceptable, without dodging left and right.

    Cheesey my intentions were not to fight, but to clearly understand your side. It's just to hard to do when you can't answer a question presented to you. No hard feelings man[/quote]

    (I don't know why i can get this to quote right, but here is where my comments start)Cheesey


    I think if you asked 99% of the people that have read this thread, they would agree that i "answered" your so called "questions". You just don't like or want to face my answers, cause they make your debate go down in flames.
    Like i have said, both end in animals dieing, thats ALL they have in common. If you can't see that, you don't WANT to see it. If you clearly wanted to "see my side" i think i showed it too you QUITE clearly.
    Just reread all i wrote, then see it HONESTLY.
    HUGE differences between the two. I have been hunting, and i have seen video of dog fighting. Why don't you watch some video of both, and see for yourself if you don't see some REAL differences.
    I have no hard feelings, but i DO feel you have been just playing with me, trying to make me "slip up" or something.
    Maybe i'm wrong, but with reading what you wrote all along, i can't help but feel that way.

    I'm interested.........who thinks i'm right on all this, who thinks i'm wrong.
    I don't know if anyone will reply, but i'm just curious.
     
  16. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Vick ... a Green Bay Packer?

    On a side note, anyone else find it interesting that his name is KGB... but has a pic of Kampman? heh
     
  17. cheesey

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    I hadn't noticed that......LOL! :lol:
     
  18. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    I'm done here, Longtime is right, its going nowhere.

    And Cheesey, Vick is FAR from my "Hero". I'm off to humanely kill my dog and eat him.
     
  19. Zero2Cool

    Zero2Cool I own a website

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    Whoa, sick!! I didn't know Vick ate his dogs too! He should be locked up for 23 years, not months. What a sick phuck.
     
  20. KGB94SACKEM

    KGB94SACKEM Cheesehead

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    Nooo, as long as you eat them and kill them humanely, it's ok
     
  21. tromadz

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    I thought that was my thing, and isn't this supposed to be in the NFL News Section?

    Trom for mod.

    PS - Vick sucks.
     
  22. cheesey

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    Yeah.....but your not trying to start anything, right? :roll:
    Hey....whatever thrills you.
    Make sure you leave room for dessert!
     
  23. tromadz

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    Maybe some monkey brains?
    [​IMG]
     
  24. cheesey

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    Oh....sorry Trom..........i'm too full after all those "Fluffy" burgers with cheese! :lol:
    I SHOULD have stopped at one! :shock: :lol:
     
  25. dhpackr

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    Say What???????? dog fighting the same as fishing & hunting???????

    I beg to differ on that one.
     

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