Packerbacker1996
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All of you need to watch and listen to this.
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I’m surprised how often Receivers are either Out-leveraged, Fall down or just run the wrong direction. It’s almost rudimentary level for a receiver to not run fully against the grain on a naked bootleg. That one surprised me the most because the only reason you’d do that is if you had no idea what play was called. You’ve completely taken yourself out of that play to the point they would be better off not having you on the field confusing the Read progression.All of you need to watch and listen to this.
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I also put that on our new OC. If this was supposed to be “on the job” training it’s not a very smart transition move.It's like Kurs said I'm not sure if it's the receivers or it's coaching but I'm leaning towards its a coaching issue as I been saying all along.
And by what Kurs I'd saying Rodgers haven't lost it but rather it's other issues.
We should be happy about that I guess and hope we can solve this by 2023
Rodgers has 1 or 2 Receivers for easy TD’s but he’s caught looking down. He doesn’t trust his OL or he also doesn’t trust his Receivers.
True. But every other QB isn’t 3-6 or scoring 17 points per game. It really shows up when you’re struggling overall as a team.Rodgers has always missed a lot of open wrs if you watch the all 22...as has every other qb
True. But every other QB isn’t 3-6 or scoring 17 points per game. It really shows up when you’re struggling overall as a team.
Shocker . Some wr fall, some don’t know where to goI’m surprised how often Receivers are either Out-leveraged, Fall down or just run the wrong direction. It’s almost rudimentary level for a receiver to not run fully against the grain on a naked bootleg. That one surprised me the most because the only reason you’d do that is if you had no idea what play was called. You’ve completely taken yourself out of that play to the point they would be better off not having you on the field confusing the Read progression.
*IF* you watched the video, I think you can answer your own question.Shocker . Some wr fall, some don’t know where to go
I want to know why he doesn’t hit the open guy or doesn’t see him
Because he also isn't playing 100% to his capability.Why is he under throwing a wr at goal line for a td
Why is he over throwing te
yes. You only get so many opportunities and if you can convert just 50% of those obvious misses were seeing, it’s an entirely different ball game. I wouldn’t have been surprised to see us 4-4 etc.. had you told me that week 1. But where I’m surprised is we seemingly look the same or worse each week in the passing game. Therefore the so called experts in here that said “you have to have a passing game to open the run” have not noticed we have no formidable passing attack. It’s a passing cluster. Yet we want to keep trying to force our will instead of taking what they give us, which has been a decent Rushing average (12th in yards) and countless times in or near scoring position with zero points to show for it. Only the Buffalo Bills and LV Raiders have a similar or better success with below average run opportunities. Even with below average attempts (17th) we are tied at 4.3 per (15th) and total yards (12th). We dismantled the #1 Rushing Defense a couple of weeks ago. No other team in 9 Weeks is within 34 yards of Green Bay’s 208 yards against the Bills. If we can run against Buffalo in Buffalo we can run against anyone anywhere.The thing is if the other guys were doing even the bare minimum which to me is at the very leaat knowing the plays and being in the right spots.
Would Rodgers have missed the throw to Watkins on the 2nd level crosser off the naked boot? I doubt it, Christian Watson cleared out a huge area with his deep route. That was a td for Watkins, as was the fade on the goal line. You add up 5 or 6 of those plays a game and its easy to see why you cant win. The other teams are just too good to be able to make that many mistakes
And you’re fixated on defending him to me. And that’s okay, I just know if you quote me it’s about my negative issues with him*IF* you watched the video, I think you can answer your own question.
Because he also isn't playing 100% to his capability.
This is not an all or none proposition. You're fixated on the Rodgers portion of it and seem hesitant about wanting to address the rest of the obvious issues.
There's no way anyone with eyes can watch that video and tell me that there aren't some SERIOUS issues with receivers not doing what they are supposed to do. At the same time, Rodgers isn't as pin point accurate as we've seen him in the past.
TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE.
A quick audit of my recent posting history will show you that I'm not fixated on defending him. Look at my comments during and after the Lions game in those threads.And you’re fixated on defending him to me. And that’s okay, I just know if you quote me it’s about my negative issues with him
Now. Def has issues, Oline has issues, st has issues, the entire team has issues.
For 50 mill I expect it to be better
Sure wr ,online and coaching plays into it. But I recall other qb with similar issues ( New England and their no name wr for a while)
But again, you can disagree, but I want him to play better he needs to play better
Haven’t we heard, Aj Hawk???
If he was only a 3rd round then his production is fine but as a #1 he sucks
For me it’s the same. 3rd qb ok fine but 50 mill?
If you don’t agree that’s fine but this is my opinion
And when that happens we are certainly in trouble. I always believed that Brady in NE and Peyton Manning at Indy and Denver worked extremely hard from preseason to midseason being on the same page with their receivers. All of them. And it was not as if each had Marvin Harrison or Gronk their entire careers. Something did not materialize after the draft. No one person is responsible. Many are.I also put that on our new OC. If this was supposed to be “on the job” training it’s not a very smart transition move.
I can also show countless plays where Rodgers has 1 or 2 Receivers for easy TD’s but he’s caught looking down. He doesn’t trust his OL or he also doesn’t trust his Receivers.
I can also show countless plays where Rodgers has 1 or 2 Receivers for easy TD’s but he’s caught looking down.
Rodgers has always missed a lot of open wrs if you watch the all 22...as has every other qb
True. But every other QB isn’t 3-6 or scoring 17 points per game.
Therefore the so called experts in here that said “you have to have a passing game to open the run” have not noticed we have no formidable passing attack. It’s a passing cluster. Yet we want to keep trying to force our will instead of taking what they give us, which has been a decent Rushing average (12th in yards) and countless times in or near scoring position with zero points to show for it.
I always believed that Brady in NE and Peyton Manning at Indy and Denver worked extremely hard from preseason to midseason being on the same page with their receivers. All of them. And it was not as if each had Marvin Harrison or Gronk their entire careers.
Can't be overstated.Wow thats an insane stat. Top 10 Defense in 18 of 21 seasons. Definitely easier to win that way...
It’s not that they argued we have a great passing attack. I said they argued that you need to have a great passing attack to open up the run game, which is kind of an unconventional spin on play action.I haven't seen a single poster arguing the Packers have a decent passing game this season. They need to do better to have success running the ball though.
Congrats OS101 - Six new threads posted since I was here last, and all of their last posts are from you. And, ironically, this is was responding to Capt.It’s not that they argued we have a great passing attack. I said they argued you need to have a great passing attack to open up the run game.
This Offense (with our Roster) is easily capable of 20-25 points per game if it’s functioning properly and running disciplined. I don’t believe they are synchronized at all. It’s like we’re in Week 1-3 as far as playing disciplined.
Correct. We should have started getting in sync Week 5. I know the offensive injuries compounded it. But discipline is something a coaching staff must instill.It’s not that they argued we have a great passing attack. I said they argued that you need to have a great passing attack to open up the run game, which is kind of an unconventional spin on play action.
This Offense (with our Roster) is easily capable of 20-25 points per game if it’s functioning properly and running disciplined. I don’t believe they are synchronized at all. It’s like we’re in Week 1-3 as far as playing undisciplined.
Unfortunately it might be too late to turn it around. It’s way deep in the season to sputter Offensively and our Roster isn’t as bad as we’re making it look.
It’s not that they argued we have a great passing attack. I said they argued that you need to have a great passing attack to open up the run game, which is kind of an unconventional spin on play action.
This Offense (with our Roster) is easily capable of 20-25 points per game if it’s functioning properly and running disciplined.
We pretty much all knew the Offense would suffer some earlier in the season, I think we just didn't expect it to last this long.I think at this point in the season it's unrealistic to suggest the offense is easily capable of scoring that many points as they have proven in 11 games they aren't.