Fire Matt LaFleur

[tynimiller]

Specifically, he has no idea what to do on 4th and 1.

18 teams have went for 25 or more fourth downs. Only 9 have converted more than we have.

 

[BrokenArrow]

18 teams have went for 25 or more fourth downs. Only 9 have converted more than we have.

Only 9? In other words, the definition of mediocre. Are you good with his decision to run yet again out of the shotgun on 4th and one inch from our own 35 yard line?

 

[adambr2]

Yes. Like my eyes. They flicker every time we lose a game and with the predictability of setting my watch, it’s immediately a “Fire Capers” crowd comes runnin’ like a witch hunt.

You’re certainly not suggesting just wiping the Staff clean without a plan?

Which HC are you suggesting??

Which DC are you getting?

Also Which OC?

There it is.

No, no one suggested we just fire everyone Willy nilly.

Yes, it is silly to expect fans to have a solid list of the next hot coaching candidates when teams themselves will conduct an exhaustive hiring process before selecting a candidate.

 

[tynimiller]

Only 9? In other words, the definition of mediocre. Are you good with his decision to run yet again out of the shotgun on 4th and one inch from our own 35 yard line?

Heck no, I’d not shotgun run in that scenario. It did work a few times though before for him, but autrocious failures last few.

Wait what? Only 18 teams have a sample size of even that many attempts? Not mediocre really, I did not look at advanced metrics of what was average to go on fourth downs which is something I’m always curious of far more than most when I see fourth down percentages. Our percentage is like 56% conversion.

 

[OldSchool101]

I wonder if our select group will start a fire Sean McVay thread. LA loses Davante, Their LT, RG and they look like poopooo

 

[OldSchool101]

Heck no, I’d not shotgun run in that scenario. It did work a few times though before for him, but autrocious failures last few.

Interesting. LA Rams just tried shotgun on 4th n 1 and a Practice Squad activation LB came shooting through and blew up the play for -2

Fire McVay!!

 

[adambr2]

Interesting. LA Rams just tried shotgun on 4th n 1 and a Practice Squad activation LB came shooting through and blew up the play for -2

Fire McVay!!

They could give a crap about tonight. I’m surprised they’re not just resting starters.

 

[OldSchool101]

There it is.

No, no one suggested we just fire everyone Willy nilly.

Yes, it is silly to expect fans to have a solid list of the next hot coaching candidates when teams themselves will conduct an exhaustive hiring process before selecting a candidate.

But you’re not thinking this through.

MLF is calling plays, so you’ll need an OC and HC or a name of one capable of doing both at a high level.

His best buddy isn’t hanging around while you clean house. He’s not that desperate. Go get a DC.

Rich is gone.

So yes. You need 4 names, which is why I asked and I had a feeling you didn’t think this through. That post tells me all I need to know. Sometimes some of you act like you just twinkle your nose and you get an upgrade at HC and OC and nothing else changes.

We really should make it a point to have a solution to replacing everyone we fire is my point. Otherwise it looks more like a way to complain instead of a valid argument. Massive changes can have serious implications. Just wishing away MLF and the entire Coaching tree doesn’t make this team better imo.

 

[DABIGZ]

So there’s been a lot said about LaFleur.

So here’s my $.02… If we’re in the same spot next year, I.E the 7th seed or worse, lousy finish to the season on a losing streak, Same conversations about this team looking unprepared when there’s everything to play for…

Then it’s time to seriously open the conversation for a new Head Coach.

 

[OldSchool101]

They could give a crap about tonight. I’m surprised they’re not just resting starters.

It’s a good thing. LA is getting spanked

They need to pull Stafford and Blake the Decorum

Truly though LA is cutting their own you know what off. Their 1st Round pick is tied to Atlanta. An Atlanta Loss would all but guarantee the Rams a Bonafide top 10 selection. Not to mention Stafford is in the race for league MVP. I’d also much rather face Carolina or Tampa in the Wildcard than going to the freezing cold Chicago or Philly. Maybe they just don’t care which doesn’t bother me cause I hope they spiral in all honesty.

 

[DABIGZ]

But you’re not thinking this through.

MLF is calling plays, so you’ll need an OC and HC or a name of one capable of doing both at a high level.

His best buddy isn’t hanging around while you clean house. He’s not that desperate. Go get a DC.

Rich is gone.

So yes. You need 4 names, which is why I asked and I had a feeling you didn’t think this through. That post tells me all I need to know. Sometimes some of you act like you just twinkle your nose and you get an upgrade at HC and OC and nothing else changes.

We really should make it a point to have a solution to replacing everyone we fire is my point. Otherwise it looks more like a way to complain instead of a valid argument. Massive changes can have serious implications. Just wishing away MLF and the entire Coaching tree doesn’t make this team better imo.

Like a post said earlier, did we expect the team to hire the OC from the titans when we fired McCarthy?

So we can make a list of candidates we want from here to Timbuktu.. only thing that matters is what the team thinks.

IMO… telling people to have a list of HC ready is like having your draft crushes list: fun to think about, probably never gonna happen!

 

[pacmaniac]

I wasn’t sure if he was mixing up those two losses or referring to Carlson’s missed field goal in 2023 which may have cost us the game.

Special teams played a role, to varying degrees, in our playoff exits in 2021, 2023, and 2024.

Carlson's missed FG wouldn't be Bisacchio's fault though.

 

[OldSchool101]

Like a post said earlier, did we expect the team to hire the OC from the titans when we fired McCarthy?

So then, you’re basically advocating for a move and going after someone like…. Matt LaFleur?

I’ve heard all I’ve needed hear!

 

[DABIGZ]

So then, you’re basically advocating for a move and going after someone like…. Matt LaFleur?

I’ve heard all I’ve needed hear!

Pretty much, minus the fact our team gets as soft as a marshmallow in big games

 

[DABIGZ]

Look, I think Matt’s a fine coach. But he’s GOTTA start showing improvement in the big moments. He’s done it before, but for some reason it disappears. Can’t have that when our goal is going deep in the playoffs.

My straightforward opinion: The ones that staunchly defend LaFleur are just as bad as the ones who call for him to be fired ASAP.

 

[BrokenArrow]

So there’s been a lot said about LaFleur.

So here’s my $.02… If we’re in the same spot next year, I.E the 7th seed or worse, lousy finish to the season on a losing streak, Same conversations about this team looking unprepared when there’s everything to play for…

Then it’s time to seriously open the conversation for a new Head Coach.

Why then and not now? Unless he wins at least one playoff game, he needs to go for sure. If he wins 1, maybe you can justify one more year. If he gets to the NFCC, fine, yes... another year. But lose, especially if not even close, or due to stupid decisions, he's gotta go.

 

[DABIGZ]

Why then and not now? Unless he wins at least one playoff game, he needs to go for sure. If he wins 1, maybe you can justify one more year. If he gets to the NFCC, fine, yes... another year. But lose, especially if not even close, or due to stupid decisions, he's gotta go.

The biggest reason is the because of the injuries. Because we have to be fair and look at everything.

Also, next year is truly the last year If he’s not signed this offseason to an extension.

But yeah, if we get EMBARRASSED off the field in the playoffs, especially by a division rival? The wolves will howl.

 

[Firethorn1001]

So then, you’re basically advocating for a move and going after someone like…. Matt LaFleur?

I’ve heard all I’ve needed hear!

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[DABIGZ]

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Or it could be a Mike Vrable
Or a Sean McVay
Or a Andy Reid

We can play this game both ways.

 

[Sanguine camper]

The Vikings, Lions and Bears have all hired coaches since MLF was hired in 2019. I would say right now they're better than MLF
If the division rivals can find better coaches, then maybe finding a better replacement isn't as arduous as it may seem.

Oh, and with regards to "somebody in mind," well, I dunno. I can't tell you how many times I've heard something like "If you fire LaFleur, who do you plan on getting who will be as good or better?"

Well, let me respond to a question with a question: If I went back in time 7-8 years and said "If you fire Mike McCarthy, who are you going to get who is better?", how many of you would have answered "The OC from the 27th-ranked Tennessee Titans scoring offense will be better"?

 

[OldSchool101]

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Take the Boat Honey!

Love that Cartoon about Micah it’s hilarious!

 

[Sanguine camper]

Heck if we had just Won that Bears game and we should have. We’d be 5-0 in Division and still playing for a #3 Seed this Week and a 6-0 Division Sweep
Last year the complaint centered around 1-5 (even though we pulled starters in Week 18). That group said man if we could only beat Vikings and Detroit and go 4-2 or 5-1 we’d be Championlike. Today we are 4-1 NFC North and have beat every team in the North. Now that group has backed up and moved the target to “if only we had Malik Willis as our Starter!
Cmon. It doesn’t wear well and imo it only makes me not trust those posters (not you) judgement. They are afraid to admit they were wrong about last year claiming we couldn’t beat a playoff caliber team.. so to hide from their glaring mistake they use MLF or Malik as a Ruse to avoid being found out.

Last year, the Lions and Vikings were much better teams and the Packers came up short against good teams like usual.

This year, the Vikings were abysmal for much of the season due to QB woes and the Lions have once again had their share of injuries not to mention the devastating early retirement of a HOF talent on the O line.

The Packers are better in the division but they sure haven't improved. They added Micah Parsons and have gotten worse. As I've pointed out before, that takes a special kind if incompetence to add a HOF pass rusher and get worse.

Anyone who posted the Packers couldn't win a big game in 2024, has every reason to continue that claim in 2025. The only thing that's changed is some of the teams in those big games.

 

[pacmaniac]

The Vikings, Lions and Bears have all hired coaches since MLF was hired in 2019. I would say right now they're better than MLF
If the division rivals can find better coaches, then maybe finding a better replacement isn't as arduous as it may seem.

Although the Bears are on their 4th coach since 2019.

 

[DABIGZ]

Rams have come back down from 21-0 to tie the game 24-24.

What was that about them playing like crap?

 

[adambr2]

It’s a good thing. LA is getting spanked

They need to pull Stafford and Blake the Decorum

Truly though LA is cutting their own you know what off. Their 1st Round pick is tied to Atlanta. An Atlanta Loss would all but guarantee the Rams a Bonafide top 10 selection. Not to mention Stafford is in the race for league MVP. I’d also much rather face Carolina or Tampa in the Wildcard than going to the freezing cold Chicago or Philly. Maybe they just don’t care which doesn’t bother me cause I hope they spiral in all honesty.

The only options for the WC round are Chicago and Philly. We can’t face anyone else.